Enviro groups push national monument for Arizona strip, Utah cries foul

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  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    April 17, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    The article doesn't explain why the monument designation would kill the Lake Powell pipeline. Does the pipeline route go through Arizona?

    Senator Hatch has had plenty of time to repeal the Antiquities Act. With all the years he has spent in the Senate and all the pull and connections he is so famous for, surely he could have gained support for such a bill by now.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 17, 2012 11:11 a.m.

    The only difference between this news and The Hunger Games is that in The Hunger Games, the Capital never annexed District 12.

  • UtahVoter Spanish Fork, UT
    April 17, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    I talked to a friend whose family owns a Utah cabin in the designated area. He said they suddenly received a letter stating that the land their family had owned for generations was being taken by the Federal government. They're extremely upset. He wasn't sure how the law worked or if "compensation" would be offered or any of that. But they're not looking to sell. They appreciated the area and are worried there's just not enough people living there to make enough noise to stop the new and needless (and out-of-nowhere) "monument" seizure.

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    April 17, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    Thanks for the article, but I would really appreciate if the article included a map showing each of the areas (maybe color coded) that is discussed.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    April 17, 2012 10:44 a.m.

    I'm glad that the DN encourages civil discourse, because this is something that can cause real bad feelings. Having watched the federal government lockup more land in southern Utah than the entire state of Rhode Island says something about the rights of the state of Utah. as was mentioned in another post, I wish they would lock up this much land in one of the democratic states east of the Mississippi and see who would scream then.

    April 17, 2012 10:34 a.m.

    This is a beautiful area and important wildlife habitat that deserves national monument designation. Obama could do this to mitigate his horrible environmental record but I'll vote for Rocky Anderson anyway. Stop the downward spiril.

  • Nan BW ELder, CO
    April 17, 2012 9:39 a.m.

    A few posters think that a monument designation would be beneficial, but most who have commented know from having traveled there or living in the area that it is being well managed by those who ranch there or have other small things going that do not damage the terrain. Federal control is not a good idea. ColtenJohnson, hynm to the silent and others have expressed well why this is a dirty scheme on the part of those who have no ties to the area.

  • JimmyJackJohnJones Jonestown, TX
    April 17, 2012 9:21 a.m.

    From the map it appears the monument is in Arizona. I think Utah's politicians should mind their own business. And if it makes them feel better, maybe Obama could go to Kanab and sign the documents there, you know, pay back for Clinton not signing in Utah for the Grand Staircase...

  • hymn to the silent Holladay, UT
    April 17, 2012 9:08 a.m.

    More of Obama's take from those who work hard, pay for it with somebody else's money, punish anybody who doesn't agree with him. The area is being managed very well right now under the current agreement: Ranchers, miners, recreationists...it's beautiful and functional. Nobody who has ever been there would think to make it a monument. This is Chicago politics at its worst. Uproot the lives of good, honest people for political gain. If he really wants to make a monumental statement, how about he start in his own backyard. The Washington Mall is a mess, weeds, poorly cared for lawns, graffiti on the symbols of our freedom...but of course that wouldn't buy him any votes. Pathetic.

  • Civicus Sandy, UT
    April 17, 2012 8:59 a.m.

    Memo to Senator Hatch: Not everyone in Utah is against this proposal. I, for example, am in favor of it. Before you spout off about everyone being either for or against something, you should be sure. Your constant hyperbole is tiresome.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    April 17, 2012 7:40 a.m.

    Re: "Enviro groups push national monument for Arizona strip"

    You can count on it happening.

    The radical Obama crowd will feel obligated to suck up to its radical base, and buy a few clueless tree hugger votes in the bargain, risking very little in the re-election bid, since those alienated by this cynical, partisan ploy were unlikely to vote for him anyway.

    Small political advantage, small political risk? What would stop them? Certainly not the best interests of the region and Nation, sane energy or land-use policy, or alienating a few million unsupportive -- hence unimportant -- people in flyover country.

    Here's hoping President Romney will have the guts to add this liberal political trick to the list of unconstitutional, ill-conceived, and harmful Obama political payola scams he'll reverse on his first day in office.

  • coltenjohnson Cedar City, UT
    April 17, 2012 7:32 a.m.

    And to 'flynn is the coolest', it was beautiful when you drove through it right? Who is keeping it that way? It's the people who work and play and live in that area, not the feds. It is already being preserved and giving back to the people who live in the area and love the area. If it were to be locked up it would only be taking tax money and education money and not giving back at all, and in return would be less preserved just like happened with the Grand Staircase.

  • coltenjohnson Cedar City, UT
    April 17, 2012 7:32 a.m.

    Only five comments? Its gonna happen again then. Its not Moab so people up north are oblivious and don't care so it's just going to happen again. To Cedarite above, your comment just shows how little you know about the area. The Arizona Strip is cut off from the rest of Arizona by the Grand Canyon. The area means more now and means more historically to the people living in Southern Utah than it does to the rest of Arizona. It's people from Southern Utah and the small town of Fredonia, AZ (less than 1,000 people) that used to log in the area, used to mine in the area, ranch in the area, play in the area, etc. This is peoples lives. Its families losing their ranches and jobs as well as their ways of life and identity.

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    April 17, 2012 6:36 a.m.

    Let the federal government take whatever land they want. It doesn't bother me, so long as they continue giving me my health care, social security, grants for education, food stamps, cheap housing and any other freebies I can get my hands on.

    I would gladly trade Arizona and Utah land for the continued benefits of my fellow citizen's labor and income. I get to work less and I can still meet my wants and needs. This is the new American way and I like it. Keep up the good work President O!

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    April 16, 2012 10:59 p.m.

    Wilderness for votes. No one really cares where the money to keep people out will come from. How will we pay for policing? How will we maintain roads for those who own private land out on the Arizona Strip? Make it a monument and you have to provide facilities. Arizona Officials have to live in St George to cover the strip. Can you not see that this will be a disaster for Utah. We have to provide the emergency response teams and care. People who have no idea how remote and unforgiving the land is will be stupid, just like on the Swell. Thinking it is a park they will get lost, sick and injured. Utah will have provide the policing, the search and rescue, and the care facilities for this vast area.

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    April 16, 2012 10:39 p.m.

    I've driven through that area dozens of times, and it is truly spectacular. I'd much rather see the natural beauty of the area preserved- as opposed to another mud pit like Kennecott. I guess that makes me a freedom hating bully. I'm not opposed to the ranchers using the land though- if there is a way to make that provision.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 16, 2012 9:21 p.m.

    Never trust the feds, especially in an election year, when they have a chance to pander to environmental extremists, and undercut the traditional freedom loving western culture.

    That makes a pretty good justification for Utah getting involved, even if it is in an adjacent state. They deserve our support to stand up to the bullies.

  • Cedarite Cedar City, UT
    April 16, 2012 7:38 p.m.

    Seems like it's not really Utah's place to have decision making power over a proposed National Monument in another state.