Did Steven Powell help plot Susan's disappearance?

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  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    April 10, 2012 12:00 a.m.


    I don't disagree with your second comment (response to me) except that it's not relative to what I said.

    I never said there was evidence against Josh in regards to Susan's disappearance. Nor did I comment on amounts of blood anywhere.

    Sure I think Josh killed his wife. But what I think is not based on prosecution material. I said nothing about police investigation either. What I said was was based on your comment to the community about "why is it so hard to believe here" in regards to Susan going to South America or some bizarre scenario.

    Where I think you are flawed is not your job and experience. It's your inductive defense of an improbable but possible idea. South America? Really? Could be, but it's more likely Josh killed his wife (blood or no blood). Don't you think?

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    April 9, 2012 11:50 a.m.

    gdog3finally- No way, Josh took his kids to see Santa at the North Pole? There is zero physical evidence that a murder took place. A wet spot on the floor or sofa means nothing. The reason WVPD didn't charge is because they couldn't. You can't invent reasons no matter how hard you want to. Ya, I admit, Josh acted strangely about the whole deal, but there was/is no evidence other than circumstantial to say that Susan Powell was killed. When it's found, I'll gladly retract.

    I clean up crime scenes and trauma scenes as part of my business. I've seen worse blood stains left by someone who blew a vein in their foot, than what little stain was left at the Powell home. A plate size blood stain could come from a bloody nose, trust me, I've witnessed it.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    April 8, 2012 10:49 p.m.


    "Why is it so hard to believe it could happen here?" Uhh, maybe because Josh killed his kids, lied about his whereabouts in regards to anything case related, never assisted police, and went camping with his toddlers in the north pole.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    April 8, 2012 2:13 p.m.

    There is no concrete evidence that Susan Powell is deceased. I personally believe she is in South America with the other dude that went missing around the same time she did. A little blood stain in a living room and some small wet spot on the carpet or wherever aren't enough evidence to say that she is dead. I know it's hard for most people to believe a mother could leave her children behind, but let's remember there are stories every day in the news that mothers harm or leave their children, why is it so hard to believe it could happen here?

  • Burnham Bountiful, Utah
    April 8, 2012 4:12 a.m.

    This is news folks! That is what a newspaper does. I for one am glad to be kept up on what is happening in this and any other case that is taking or has taken place in Utah. The speculation is yours, not the news medias. Stop whining about closure. Until Susan Powell's body is found her family is in limbo. To keep this in the news may bring about a break in the case, otherwise it is forgotten completely. I appreciate the coverage. Thank you Deseret News for reporting the news!

  • Jeromeo Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2012 4:19 p.m.

    I really have a problem with this article. It really needs some visual aids. I'm tempted to make three by five incident cards and pin them to my wall with lines and arrows and 8X10 colored glossy photographs (thank you Arlo) in order to do a proper criminal investigation. Did Josh Powell really need a dominator to get him to kill his kids? Ipso facto.

  • nater25 Hyrum, UT
    April 7, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    @ I M LDS 2: Based on the evidence come to light, the Deseret News is doing a much better job at "judiciously speculating to guide the investigation" than the police. It is not unethical, but a basic tenant of journalism. Especially as it becomes more and more apparent that the WVC police were incompetent in the working of this case.

    @ My2Cents: " did the WVC police have the wrong man to accuse and harass?" Have you not paid any attention to the evidence released by the WVC police?? The evidence clearly shows that Josh Powell was the the right man. They hardly harassed him. They barely talked with him didn't come near him once he hired a lawyer. There is enough evidence here that the DN hardly has to "create hate and lies and misconceptions of the truth." They are only going where the evidence suggests. It is hardly the actions of a "tabloid."

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    April 7, 2012 12:42 p.m.

    This is highly speculative and highly irresponsible. Yesterday this same lawyer was saying that Steven Powell was in Utah on the day of the camping trip when clearly he wasn't. After back-peddling we're now getting even more speculation with no evidence. Nonetheless it all gets published. It sounds to me like this lawyer is playing the media like a violin.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2012 10:49 a.m.

    Some people watch way too much tv.

  • Butch70 Spokane, WA
    April 7, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    Why is this comming out noow? The dad is in jail now. Let it be.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    April 7, 2012 9:56 a.m.

    Nobody is defending Josh or Steven Powell here, least of all me. You see? The speculative, tabloid vigilante mentality starts to expand into false accusations against anyone and everyone who has not already made up their minds about this case. THAT is the kind of mentality that is dangerous, and is the enemy of justice.

    And nobody is saying "leave law wnfoecement on their own". The press IS a good mechanism for raising the public awareness of criminal behavior with which the public can be of assistance.

    But this article adds nothing in that regard. It is pure tabloid speculation and sensationalism. It does nothing to empower the public with an ability to help in this case.

    Responsible journalism, as distinguished from the tabloid kind, does not publish empty, fluff speculation that does nothing but stir up readers, capture attention, and fail to add any new facts or directions to the case.

    This article adds nothing.

  • JasonH84 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2012 8:23 a.m.

    "Josh planned all kinds of stuff and researched lots of stuff, but he never did anything. That was his problem."

    Uh, the last thing he ever did in this life seemed to have been pretty well planned out and, unfortunately, very successful.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    April 7, 2012 6:05 a.m.

    @ I M LDS 2 and others

    If we left the law enforcement people to do their job, Elizabeth Smart would still be camping in S. Diego wearing a white burka. If this happened to your family as it did to Susan Cox's, you SHOULD (and would) be out there keeping the heat on law enforcement, questioning everyone who knew people central to the case and keeping the story alive in the press. This case is one of many for WVC police but it is the only one that matters to the parents of Susan Powell.

    The ONLY way to solve a missing persons case is to keep the story in the news because most of us (by your own admission) would rather forget it.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    April 7, 2012 5:58 a.m.

    For you Josh and Steven Powell apologists, it's a good thing the press keeps this pressure on the law enforcement agencies of WVC (especially) and Washington. They've had over 2 years to deal with the evidence and mostly what we read about Josh is that they only got what was "voluntarily given up" to the Police. The police didn't do their job. The fact that Powell's co-workers are contacting lawyers now about something that police took as a deposition but didn't follow up is troubling. We've seen this pattern again and again with this case.

    I don't like to see a trial in the media but why in the world wasn't there a real trial while Josh was in Utah and Susan's sons still alive? Josh obstructed the investigation from the beginning and the police treated him like he was untouchable. There have been trials for murder where no body has been found and if that is the only basis to run a trial, then there will be many more people disappear whose case will be unsolved.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    April 7, 2012 4:02 a.m.

    Enough is enough. The issue is dead, why is there so much tabloid speculations and accusation being tossed around without cause? The tabloids are not the place for law and order, its where they create hate and lies and misconceptions of the truth

    This has to make you wonder did the WVC police have the wrong man to accuse and harass? Was their a conspiracy they just discovered after being so narrow minded and narrowly focused that the truth eluded them?

    It's time for the Deseret News to put it to rest and stop its persecution and implication of innocent people in crimes they are speculating about. It's bad enough the police work that way, we don't need a narrow minded and narrowly focused news media with a vindictive vengeance motivating their lies.

  • K Mchenry, IL
    April 6, 2012 8:40 p.m.

    Doesn't mean he didn't prepare a place for her and was involved in the disposal after a time. Police would be focusing on Josh not him. Least not until those images showed up on his computer. Josh used the boys as alibi, he used work. Does anyone really think he could manage to harm his wife and be sole caretaker to 2 small boys at the same time without help?

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    April 6, 2012 8:30 p.m.

    For a news agency such as this to engage in such speculation is unethical. Let the lae enforcement agencies' investigation determine the facts and judiciously speculate to guide the investigation, but for this news agency to speculate like this is merely cheap tabloid sensationalism.

  • On the other hand Spanish Fork, UT
    April 6, 2012 7:49 p.m.

    @Moderate, the fact that he was at work on Dec. 7, 2009 doesn't mean he couldn't have had a hand in planning whatever happened to Susan.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    April 6, 2012 4:57 p.m.

    Grasping at straws.

    Washington state Department of Corrections has confirmed that Steve Powell was at work the morning of Dec. 7, 2009.