Tea party group spends $600K trying to oust Orrin Hatch

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  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 14, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    I find the graphic with this article disingenuous. It says Freedom Works has spent so X dollars to UNSEAT republicans, and Y dollars ATTACKING BO and the dems. The goal of the spending is the same, so why is to unseat one and attack another. The authorÂs bias is showing.

    one old man,
    You mean the dems do NOT support abortion and gay marriage?

    the deficit has decreased and the economy improved more when we had gridlock than when the dems ran everything. We need MORE obstructionist tactics if the dems stay in power.

  • ER in EUR Belgrade, Serbia
    March 14, 2012 3:35 a.m.

    So the TeaPartiers are pure constitutionalists who are for states rights, right? Well how can then meddleing in another state's election be in support of states rights? Pure and simple bull puckey. Let the people of their own state establish their own representation. Stay in Texas, Dick Armey. Leave Utah to Utahns.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 14, 2012 12:12 a.m.

    OK, How many millions has Senator Hatch spent trying to stay elected for 42 years? $3 million, 4, 5, 6....

    Freedom Works is ONE Tea Party group. The article seems to assume anyone that is Taxed Enough Already has ties to Freedom Works, which is not the case. At least with Freedom Works, you know who is behind the spin, and they are not secret about it.

    With Freedom Path, you don't know who is funding it or behind the distorted spin. They have gone out of their way to be secret about it. Freedom Path is spending hundreds of thousands blasting the 2 main challengers of Sen. Hatch.

  • golfrUte SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 14, 2012 12:11 a.m.

    I am not affiliated with either party,but lean conservative on most issues. I find the extreme positions of the Tea Party almost as appalling as those of the Obama administration. Until federal election laws have term limits, I prefer to have Hatch's seniority and influence over another useless freshman senator like Lee.

    If the tea party had any hope of credibility they would spend their resources to defeat liberal incumbents.

  • aceroinox Farmington, UT
    March 13, 2012 10:57 p.m.

    All you guys (read Hatch campaign staff) complaining about Freedom Works being outsiders think again. There are 15,000 FreedomWorks contributors in the State of Utah, which is more than Senator Hatch has in the State of Utah. And, just for the record: you don't have to be a Tea-Partier to see that it's long overdue for Senator Hatch to come home. In fact, Senator Hatch knew three terms was enough when he first ran, and committed that would be his limit. He fudged on that a little, but two terms ago committed in the State Republican Convention that he would retire after one more term (that would have been 6 years ago).

    Senator Hatch's best shot as to why he should return: "Orrin Hatch--fighting unapologetically for Utah!" Laughable! He thinks we want him to get the federal government to spend more money in the State of Utah! News Flash to Senator Hatch: We don't want the federal government to spend more money anywhere, even here in Utah! It's not the federal government's job to provide jobs to Utahns...we can do just fine on our own, thank you.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    March 13, 2012 10:29 p.m.

    1conservative, you lie. Hatch has never once said that he'd only serve 3 terms. That is made up nonsense. The rest of you, I guess you'd like Ted Moss back, eh? He was a liberal in Washihngton playing a conservative at home. That's why he lost.

  • B Centerville, UT
    March 13, 2012 9:02 p.m.

    @one old man

    "And exactly WHO are these shadowy figures behind all this? What, exactly, do they want to do? Who are the contributors to this? How many of them are from overseas? How many, if any, are from Utah?"

    Shadowy figures? Have you ever heard of the Chicago machine? Have you ever heard of a man named George Soros?

  • The_Kaiser Holladay, UT
    March 13, 2012 6:47 p.m.

    Time to get Hatch out.

    I hope that we recognize that we have to hold politicians to the fire. If they vote in a way we don't like, we need to hold them accountable.

    This way, future politicians are very acute to the representation's desires, due to the fact their future in washington depends on it.

    The longer we elect candidates that don't do what we want, the more they feel they can get away with. Hatch is a perfect example of this.

  • lehiaggie Lehi, UT
    March 13, 2012 5:20 p.m.

    One of the reasons nothing has been done the last two years is because of the obstructionist tactics of the tea party. We don't need more of that.

    If Hatch doesn't make it into the primaries where the people can decide, then the caucus system needs to be replaced. In fact it should probably be replaced anyway so a small percentage is not able to control who is running for office. I still think Bennet would have been reelected if not for the convention shenanigans of the tea party.

  • someonewhocares Murray, UT
    March 13, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    As a supporter of Mitt Romney, I find it perplexing that he is endorsing Hatch. Isn't Romney saying we need to get rid of the establishment (Santorum)? Seems hypocritical to me?

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    March 13, 2012 4:45 p.m.

    Freedom works ultimate plan is to shift power in Washington. Orrin Hatch is about to wield great power in Washington. He will have the power to cut the budget significantly. This is great for Utah and for what all true conservatives would like to see done and Senator Hatch will do it. Freedomworks wants someone else to be in that position.

    We need Senator Hatch. We don't need another freshman Senator. Don't get me wrong, I like Mike Lee and he is going to be terrific once he gains seniority. What we don't need it another senator without seniority. I would love to see term limits. We don't have them. Until we get them it is at Utah's disadvantage not to leave our senators there.

    Vote for Hatch! Resist this ad campaign from people who are opportunists and don't have Utah's best interests in mind.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 13, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    JNA, perhaps if you were to take a REALLY good look at what Democrats actually believe and not allow some GOP mouthpiece to tell you, you would change your mind.

    Please, at least make the effort.

  • leondardN murray, UT
    March 13, 2012 4:39 p.m.

    The title should be "Orrin Hatch spends over 3 million dollars to let Utah voters know who he is after 36 years in office" Freedom Works has spent a pittance of the money Orrin has spent, all focused on getting attention to his record financial carelessness, with votes such as 16 debt ceiling increases equaling 7.5 trillion dollars, TARP, the Dream Act, No Child Left Behind, SCHIP..the list goes on and on.

  • Riles Midway, UT
    March 13, 2012 4:32 p.m.

    I am a Republican, but I honestly don't see any difference between the two parties. Both support wars, deficits, corruption, and only care about consolidating their power. To this end they bicker publicly, then light up a stogie and slap each other on the back in their social clubs. I, for one, am sick of the establishment. I want to hit the reset button on Congress. Everyone talks about "getting things done" as if everything the government does is positive. Let's remember that the state is the enemy of the people and only expands at the expense of liberty. Any time something "gets done" you can bet it will cost money and take away more liberties. Folks, we are in need of a revolution. We need to be able to distinguish clearly between the parties on the most important issues. Based on those currently in power, it is almost impossible to do so. Sayonara Hatch. You and Bennett can keep your uninspiring centrism. Give me less government, less taxes, more responsibility, expanded freedom, and free markets. Give me a peaceful world to raise my kids in without the crushing burden of war debt and your "entitlements".

  • JNA Layton, UT
    March 13, 2012 4:08 p.m.

    I am getting sick and tired of being a Republican and having the tea party type folks killing the party. They are going to drive Obama, which happens to be the worst President in the history of the United States, right back for another 4 years. I would like to be Democrat but cannot stomach the abortion issue of the party especially when they hide behind the lie that its about "choice". The one thing about the Democrats, they get behind their candidates and they get things done even if its to the total detriment of the country.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 13, 2012 4:03 p.m.

    I read another article on this web page saying Hatch has spent $3 million on this election cycle. $600,000 pales in comparison to what Hatch has spent.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 13, 2012 3:56 p.m.

    "In a new television ad released Monday, Mitt Romney speaks up for Sen. Orrin Hatch ahead of this week's Utah Republican caucuses.Â

    This should be fun to watch¦.

    Will Utah Republicans continue to blindly follow and worship everything Mitt Romney says and does, or will they finally stand up to him reject on something?

    It appears HatchÂs people are betting Utah Republicans will once again blindly follow and do everything Mitt Romney tells them¦.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    March 13, 2012 3:30 p.m.

    These people are incredibly lacking in intelligence. I don't love Hatch, but why spend all the money to unseat ANY Republican instead of going after Democrats. The GOP is being taken over by fringe lunatics and it will end up biting them in the end. This country is getting more and more extreme while we need reasonable solutions and people who can reach across to their opponents a la Reagan.

  • Andy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 13, 2012 3:21 p.m.

    Hatch isn't going anywhere. Bennett was on the banking committee that was supposed to watching the ship, not because he wasn't conservative enough. As a delegate I voted Bennett out because he was asleep at the switch.

    Hatch doesn't have that problem and I intend to vote for him.

    I also see that having someone like Mike Lee really hurts Utah. I would be surprised if Mike Lee gets reelected. But I think Hatch wins this one pretty easily.

  • DougB Spanish Fork, UT
    March 13, 2012 3:15 p.m.

    This is a pretty one-sided story. When literally 7 times as much (over $4 million) of Hatch's re-election warchest is *also* coming from outside groups -- most of which have aims and goals a lot less simple than FreedomWorks then I think it's worth looking at the other side of the story.

    In Spanish Fork a few weeks ago, Hatch claimed that the reason he voted to raise the debt ceiling 16 times was mostly because everybody else was doing it and sometimes in the face of radical national security threats during the Reagan years (OK Senator Hatch, even if we spot you the two votes during the Reagan years on your claim of 'national security interests' then you still have 14 other votes amassing trillions of dollars of still unfunded legislation that you need to answer for and, no, quite frankly 'everybody else was doing it' is not a very noble answer in my opinion.)

  • Admansam Wichita, KS
    March 13, 2012 3:14 p.m.

    I don't live in Kansas anymore - so I have no idea who the dude is that is running against Mr. Hatch. But, I do know that years ago I worked to elect Mr. Hatch. His whole spiel was "Mr. Moss has been in office too long (I think he was working on his third term)and he needs to go." Now Mr. Hatch has been in office 35 years - and feels another 6 years is justified? Power does strange things to people - doesn't it?

    BTW - how much longer is the Republican Party going to stand bye and let the MSM divide it by referring to the "Tea Party" and the "Establishment Republican Party?" The MSM media doesn't separate the far left element of it's party from the Establishment Democrat Party. Wake up people!!!!

  • aghast SYRACUSE, UT
    March 13, 2012 3:07 p.m.

    Tea party, or not, somebody actually has the right idea. I am old enough to remember Orrin Hatch unseating Senator Moss, which was a good thing, but on the premise that he was only going to be there a short while, not forever like Moss. Over 30 years is enough time - please. I am disappointed in both parties for not putting up a good candidate. What happened to Chafetz?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 13, 2012 2:59 p.m.

    To Furry1993
    Clearfield, UT

    "The TeaParty is trying to get rid of Hatch? That's a good reason to support Hatch (as the lesser of the evils in the race). One more thing -- we absolutely do NOT need to inflict another incompetent like Mike Lee on the Senate and the United States. We all deserve better."

    Furry, you are absolutely right! Let's work to elect a competent Utah senator, Pete Ashdown.

  • LelandTC West Valley City, 00
    March 13, 2012 2:50 p.m.

    Over the years I have written Hatch many times. In every instance he was for keeping things the way they are. Now he says he can evoke change. Hatch supports what got us where we are today. Do you want change or more of what we are getting? The fact that the tea party is trying to oust Hatch is beside the point for me. I know what he stands for, his record shows it. We need someone who represents the common man, not the big corps.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    March 13, 2012 2:18 p.m.

    I wonder how much Hatch has put into his re-election bid? A 6 term Senator SHOULDN'T have to spend a whole lot, but I see an awful lot of ads from him trying to save his seat! I wonder how much his lobbyist friends are willing to put into HIS campaign?

    Hatch said he'd quit at 3 terms when he took office. He has doubled that number.

    This article (since they didn't include the amount Hatch has spent)looks like an effort to preserve the "status quo".

    Whats wrong with having someone new elected?

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2012 2:10 p.m.

    If the Tea Party is the "new" Republican Party, then there is no more room for me.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2012 2:06 p.m.

    Getting rid of Hatch Matheson and Obama in the same year would make Utah the best place to live in the usa

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    March 13, 2012 1:42 p.m.

    The TeaParty is trying to get rid of Hatch? That's a good reason to support Hatch (as the lesser of the evils in the race). One more thing -- we absolutely do NOT need to inflict another incompetent like Mike Lee on the Senate and the United States. We all deserve better.

  • On the other hand Spanish Fork, UT
    March 13, 2012 1:39 p.m.

    Dick Armey and his FreedomWorks buddies aren't Utahns, probably don't even like Utahns, and definitely don't have Utahns' best interests at heart. As far as I'm concerned, they can go back to Texas and take their $600,000 with them.

    (By the way, don't think for a moment that Utah businesses have been the recipient of all or even most of that money. A lot of it has gone to the USPS and to a printing company in Virginia. Another big chunk has gone to out-of-state online advertisers like Google.)

    As disappointed as I am with Orrin Hatch's recent rightward shift, I would rather have a proven pragmatist representing me in the Senate than another young, uninfluential obstructionist. One Senator Lee is more than we need.

  • Let's be reasonable Belgrade, Serbia
    March 13, 2012 1:28 p.m.

    If anyone had doubts about Teapartiers being wack-jobs this is a blatant example of thier short sighted silliness. This is so similar to a toddler stamping its foot or rioters who torch their own supermarkets to show everyone how mad they are. Utter and pure silly, imature mentality with a narrow self-centered focus. They say this is about the constitution, but it comes down to taxes....therefore money. Childish.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 13, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    And exactly WHO are these shadowy figures behind all this? What, exactly, do they want to do? Who are the contributors to this? How many of them are from overseas? How many, if any, are from Utah?

    Weren't we warned about "Secret Combinations?" Do I smell the odor of Gadiantons here?

    And above all, why are so many Utahns -- whose own scriptures warn against things like this -- not paying attention?

    Repeal Citizens United.

    Elect an honest replacement for Hatch. That would be Pete Ashdown.