@cougintx how bout you go check the conference standings and see who's on top
the conference and it aint cal. go do some research then come comment.
John in SLC:It was CO Ute that started the conference smack.And I don't need to resort to conference smack:Utah is proving
it's capable of having losing seasons in whatever conference it plays in.10 of 11.61-43."LOL"
Conference smack seems to be all the rage on the hill. Guess that's where you go
when your team has a disappointing (bad) season. Take solace where you can find
it.As for conference talk, I'll give credit where it is due. As far
as basketball is concerned, UCLA makes the PAC 12 essentially a conference of
champion...singular. UCLA brings 11 of the 15 NC in Bball to the table. They
are/were an amazing program. Credit to the Wizard of Westwood. (Others are AZ in
'97, and Cal in '59...go ahead and count the '40 something Utes and Stanford in
the mix...although theirs were in the lesser NCAA tourney...see NIT circa war
years)The current PAC 12 has only ONE team with multiple
championships...with an s...plural. That happens to be fewer than the ACC, Big
10, SEC, and Big East. The Missouri Valley Conference has as many different
teams winning national championships as does the PAC 12. Granted the PAC 12
overall has more...but thank UCLA.BTW...the WCC has more national
BBall championships than does the Big 12.Ride whatever coattails get
you where you want to go. Don't let actual individual season win/loss count for
much. That's probably overrated...right?
"USF has two. Both more recent than the Utes 1944 National
Championship."agb:Which, despite Bill Russell's
efforts in the mid-50's, is still FOURTEEN (14) less NCAA basketball titles won
by present-day Pac-12 schools. Yeah, keep up that WCC conference
smack. Even Duckie would have to LOL!
Nice game Utes
CO UtePARKER, CO@byujoe - please remind me how many NCAA
championships have come from the WCC?---USF has two. Both more
recent than the Utes 1944 National Championship.
Nothing like those so called experts, nobody has any idea what the Selection
Committee is going to do on Selection Sunday. One thing is for sure there will
be more than 1 PAC-12 team in there. They will not all of a sudden take a
conference that has won championships and throw them to the curb. All you guys
that think it's so, Just Not Going to Happen, 3 PAC-12 teams, 2 WCC, 3 MWC,
that's how it is going to be.
Warren Nolan says the Pac is a one bid conference at this point, while the WCC
and MWC are 3 bid conferences.Just saying.
CougFaninTX,This makes at least the second time you have predicted
that the Pac-12 will only put one team into the NCAA Tournament. You might be
right, but it's unlikely. You are letting your heart overrule reason.In the last 10 tourneys, the Pac-10 put 2 teams in the tourney once, 3 teams
once, 4 teams three times, 5 teams once, and 6 teams 4 times.It's
true that the Pac-12 is uncharacteristically weak this year in basketball, but
that doesn't mean that it is a one-bid conference.I don't pretend to
know how many teams from the Pac-12 will get an invite this year, but it is
extremely unlikely that it will only be one.Wait - you'll see.
Well done, Utah. Stepping up against a superior team down the home stretch for
the season is a good thing for your program. I would be happy with that win if
BYU was in that position so why shouldn't you be? Nice win in a tough season.
"Who is the second team? PAC12 is a one bid conference, unless someone
other than Cal wins the tourney. Cal is a lock, regardless of PAC12 tourney
outcome. Anyone else has to win the PAC12 tourney to get an invite. I'm not
trying to be critical, just factual."-CFinTXThat would be
Arizona.1) Cal is 23-6Their three non-con losses were to
ranked teams: Mizzou and UNLV (both blow-outs) and SDSU in a one-point road
defeat. Their marquee wins were against Weber St., Denver and to a much lesser
degree Georgia.Conventional wisdom says they are probably in even without
the tourney championship, barring losing their last two games vs Colorado and
Stanford.2) Arizona 21-9They made it to 20+ wins despite a
very good schedule. Losses to Gonzaga, at Florida in OT, and Mississippt St.
Their two losses to Washigton hurt them most, IMO. Still finishing up with a win
against the Sun Devils likely gets them into the tourney as a 11-12 seed. The
last time they were a 12 seed, they went to the sweet-16, en route to beating my
beloved Utes.3) Washinton 20-8Started slow but have improved
as the course of the season has progressed. Two of their non-con losses came to
great teams: Duke and Marquette, one came on the road in overtime vs Nevada.
Their fourth was the "bad loss" (see also BYu vs USU) to South Dakota
St which is 24-7. Quality wins lack, and they got blown out at Oregon. Finishing
up with with wins at USC and UCLA would help, but conventional wisdom says they
need to win the conf tourney or its the NIT.Thing is, is it very
likely Cal and Arizona will be in and it wouldn't surprise me if another team
like the Huskies or Buffaloes win the tourney. The Pac-12 will be a multi-bid
Despite being an alum of BYU and an avid Cougar fan I'm happy to see the Utes
having served up this surprise win in the final week of thier Regular season.
Even I don't enjoy seeing the Utes going through several season;s like they have
CougFaninTX, the second team is Washington. They're actually a more talented
team than Cal, but inconsistency at the beginning of the season really hurt
their image. I think they've put it together now, aside from a slight setback a
few weeks ago at Oregon, and have what it takes to win a game or two in the NCAA
tournament, it's just a matter of whether or not they can find a way to get in.
ESPN's Eamonn Brennan said of last night's win at WSU:"The win
keeps Washington on the right side of the bubble for now, but UW's marginal
profile might not be able to survive a loss at either USC or UCLA going
away."Tonight's Cal at Colorado game could be a big factor in
UW's bubble status, since the Buffs are tough to beat in Boulder, and a Cal loss
would put the Huskies in the conference lead.Thank you for the
congratulations, though, much appreciated.
Congratulations, Utah! I do wish you well next year. I saw Loveridge play in
the Great Western Shootout, and you're getting a great player. Good luck. I am
impressed with Coach K, and do hope you come back to your winning ways.
Glad we were finally able to close it out at home. @BYU JoeAnd don't
you worry. We all know BYU is a men's volleyball school
Congrats Utes. First win against a team with a winning record. Honestly, I
didn't think U had it in U. But again, Congrats! Hopefully U will start the
rebuilding process next year. StGtoSLC"The conference
only has two good teams."Who is the second team? PAC12 is a
one bid conference, unless someone other than Cal wins the tourney. Cal is a
lock, regardless of PAC12 tourney outcome. Anyone else has to win the PAC12
tourney to get an invite. I'm not trying to be critical, just factual.
@byujoe - please remind me how many NCAA championships have come from the WCC?
Also suggest you look at RPI, Sagarin, or any of the other credibile ranking
services and will notice the PAC 12 is ahead of the WCC in every one. This is
the worst year in a long time for PAC 12 BB and it is still a stronger
conference than league affiliated with your school.
This team has tons of heart but no talent. Sometimes heart is enough to make up
for the lack of talent. Last night was one of those nights....congrats, boys.
There goes any chance of Stanford's tree being seen at the NCAA Tournament.
Six wins is five more than BYU had a few years back. And yes the Y recovered
enough to make the sweet 16. I am sure there will be plenty of posts on here
from negative people who will try and find some way and put the Utes down. Way
to go Utah.
Hey Joe...Nice win over them pesky Pilots! Oh yeah and the world famous
SF Don's...and them Giant killers Pepperdone Waves...what a conference!!!
If a tree falls in the huntsman center but no one is there to hear it....
BYU Joe, I don't know what you were looking for in this game (other than hoping
Utah would lose, obviously). The conference only has two good teams, and
Stanford is definitely not one of them. Still a good accomplishment for this
team considering the disastrous season leading up to tonight.
Oh, and for the attendance trolls, I brought my abacus this time. Counted 8,933
Wow the blind squirrel and lame found a nut. And the great and mighty Pac 12
proves to be even more impressive then it was just a few hours ago.Of course not to worry - Utah is a Football School.
I'm happy the Utes got another win. What a great way for them to finish up
their home schedule. Hopefully it will give them something to build upon for
next year.This was a good win for a struggling team that is playing
for nothing but pride.Looking forward to next year.
Such a fun game. Back and forth at the end. Stanford is a very good shooting
team and made some clutch shots, but Hines, Wash and DJ responded very well.
Pretty electric atmosphere, and some terrible second half officiating (zero
fouls called through the first 15 minutes of the second half, are you kidding?)
to keep them loud the whole time. Not positive, but pretty sure I saw old Cougar
Luke Staley there. Interesting.
Let's use this to jump start next year. Decent defense, just need some scorers.