Beware of affinity fraud 'predators' who exploit trust, LDS spokesman warns

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  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Feb. 17, 2012 2:22 p.m.


    There is nothing here about this being a first of its kind revelation. I have heard church leaders warn against this stuff for years. This is just a new iteration, a variation on a theme.

    Nor does revelation have to be in first position chronologically. Christ often quoted what we now call the Old Testament or applied those concepts. Didn't mean what he said was somehow improper.

    As to the WofW being first. Certainly not reference alcohol. That would be the Old Testament (at least regarding drunkenness). However I can recall ads touting the benefits of smoking. Overall, the WofW was quite early.

    But early or late is not the same as true. For that, you need a personal witness.

  • Thinkman Provo, UT
    Feb. 17, 2012 10:26 a.m.

    Wow, the LDS church is way ahead of the curve on this one. So glad they stepped forward before this got to be a big problem. Reminds of the Proclamation on the Family that they sent out way before anyone else was calling for a strengthening of families and family values. I mean, no one else has been warning us of affinity fraud nor was anyone talking about family values before September 1995 at all.

    Come to think of it, no one was talking about how smoking and drinking were bad for you prior to Joseph Smith had the Word of Wisdom prophecy. There was NO ONE talking about how alcohol and tobacco were bad for you back in the 1830s.

    Oh wait, I just googled and found out that indeed, for over 20 years, there have been other groups warning Utahns about affinity fraud. Oh and I forgot that Dan Quayle was vilified for espousing family values in 1992. Oh, whoops, I guess there were temperance or "dry societies" around the 1820s and 1830s, yet, funny that I thought that the Word of Wisdom was way ahead of its time? Huh.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Feb. 16, 2012 11:54 a.m.

    Grant Afleck - Paul Dunn need I say more?

  • washcomom Beaverton, OR
    Feb. 16, 2012 11:27 a.m.

    I read an article about a woman in my state who was looking for paralegal work through Craigslist - which she has done successfully several times before, and someone e-mailed her back, asking her to be a mystery shopper. They sent her a "washed" cashier's check for more money than originally stated. She was sharp, and notified the bank and others.

    Another example of fraud that can happen anywhere, anytime.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 16, 2012 11:21 a.m.

    Trust often.

    Always, verify.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Feb. 16, 2012 9:29 a.m.

    I thought the basic principle of Republicanism is to let the free market run! If people get scammed in the process, why it's their money and it's their fault. Those guys are just trying to run a business, aren't they? How come Gov. Gary is up there talking about regulating the market?

  • LovingMormons Bakersfield, CA
    Feb. 16, 2012 9:28 a.m.

    The article forgot to publish the statistic that Utah has been #1or 2 in fraud perpetration for the past 18 years.

    Now either Utah is full of gullible folks or it has a high number of fraud perps. Which is it?

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 16, 2012 9:22 a.m.

    It just might be that the greatest fraud of the world in the one known as religion.

  • across the sea Topeno, Finland
    Feb. 16, 2012 12:55 a.m.

    The other side of the coin, that is missed always - even in this article - is how fraud, mainly the paranoia/scare of fraud, affects real business... Many legitimate business proposals cannot even be presented due to scare of being a scam...

    Always remember, that SOMEBODY ALWAYS PAYS and in a scam YOU are responsible ( regardless of your losses or winnings)

  • westcoastlife saltlake city, utah
    Feb. 15, 2012 5:55 p.m.

    Thats so creepy,trying to scam those that have been Dead for so long'

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Feb. 15, 2012 4:55 p.m.

    One hears, and occasionally, even observes such unfortunate situations, particularly in the retirement communities of Southern Utah.
    Residents should be very grateful for assistance in this area. Residents shall, anxiously, be watching the outcome and decisions made as a result of this conference.

  • barbara Carlsbad, CA
    Feb. 15, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    No matter who coined the phrase about a sucker being born every minute, he was right. And whoever said, buyer beware was doubly right. You might as well flush money down the toilet as to go for any scheme presented by that nice fellow in any church, PTA group or enlightenment seminar. Call me a pessimist, but I am a pessimist with my savings and my pride intact.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Feb. 15, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    One could speculate that the more religious a population is the more liable it becomes to having the wool pulled over its eyes.

    After all... people are inherently good natured and just want to help out... right?

  • skylinestar saltlake city, utah
    Feb. 15, 2012 2:45 p.m.

    spend more time on phone or searching.
    Or they find you dont have enough skills
    or under skill..Resumes are very important?

    too good to be true Where are the Jobs????

    yes men are from mars woman are from Venus))

  • windchimes saltlake city, utah
    Feb. 15, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    And thats not all to say!
    What about scam artist in Job search resumes.All you been is scam,or they stole your personal material,Or have we been Black listed?????