Travel ban arguments focus on Trump's comments about Muslims

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  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    May 9, 2017 3:06 p.m.

    @JMHO - Kanab, UT
    May 9, 2017 12:20 p.m.

    Open minded needs to change his name. When you are in court you do look at the letter of the law. That's how courts work.
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    Law Dictionary: What is INTENT? definition of INTENT (Black's Law Dictionary)

    1. In criminal law and the law of evidence. Purpose; formulated design ; a resolve to do or forbear a particular act; aim; determination. In its literal sense, the stretching of the mind or will towards a particular object. . “Intent” expresses mental action at its most advanced point, or as it actually accompanies an outward, corporal act which has been determined on- Intent shows the presence of will in the act which consummates a crime. It is ‘the exercise of intelligent will, the mind being fully aware of the nature and consequences of the act which is about (o be done, and with such knowledge, and with full liberty of action, willing and electing to do it. Burrill, Circ. Ev. 284. and notes.

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    No need to change my name.
    When you are in court, your actions are judged by intent.
    That's how courts work.

  • JMHO Kanab, UT
    May 9, 2017 12:20 p.m.

    Open minded needs to change his name. When you are in court you do look at the letter of the law. That's how courts work.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    May 9, 2017 9:50 a.m.

    at long last. . . - Kirksville , MO
    May 9, 2017 9:49 a.m.

    Perhaps the judges should look at the words of the order and not the hyperbole by Trump surrounding it. Written words in an executive order have meaning; verbalized thoughts about a larger consideration, not so much.

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    Ya -- Because as Christians and followers of Jesus Christ and supportively a "Christian Nation",
    we should always more interested in the letter of the law, and not necessarily the spirit of the law...right?

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    May 9, 2017 9:49 a.m.

    Perhaps the judges should look at the words of the order and not the hyperbole by Trump surrounding it. Written words in an executive order have meaning; verbalized thoughts about a larger consideration, not so much.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 8, 2017 7:00 p.m.

    Early in December 2015, trump read a statement in front of a crowd. In it, he, in his name, called for a complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.
    He said it. He meant it. It was an expression of intent. And it wasn't the only time he made the assertion.
    Now he has to own it. It wasn't fake news, from the fake media.
    It is not hard to divine trumps' intent from his words.
    Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said in an interview in that President Trump had previously asked him this past January about legally implementing a "Muslim ban."
    Again, trumps' intent is pretty clear.
    I imagine the judge in this case can see that, too.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 8, 2017 6:49 p.m.

    Trump doesn't listen to experts. His own people told him that his travel ban was unconstitutional. He ignored the experts and lost in court. Remember when Trump told us that "We're going to win so much, you'll get tired of winning"? Trump has a losing record. And so does America.