Trump knew Flynn misled White House weeks before ouster

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  • Yale Liberal on Planet Utah SLC, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 8:34 p.m.

    Liberal On Planet Zion -

    "Will the usual self-proclaimed extremist, obstructionist, anti-equality, alt-right, Trumpian, self proclaimed "patriots" still attempt to defend the indefensible? Furthermore. President Obama has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter whatsoever".

    @worf - McAllen, TX

    "Trump should follow the footsteps of Obama. Hit the golf course. A professional who would send billions of dollars worth of weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood, sneaking millions to Iran, and Mexican drug cartels. And yes, sending billions for African infrastructure. How's that coming along"?

    Right on cue Worf! Still attempting the Obama excuses/smokescreen. All of course with "alternative facts". Life in McAllen seems ignorantly blissful!

  • SG in SLC Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 6:58 p.m.

    I agree that the Trump Administration's cavalier approach to national security is starting to hit the fan, but I fear that the damage has already been done.

    Frustrated intelligence officials are reportedly holding back highly classified information from President Trump amid fears the White House itself has been compromised by Russian operatives.

    For decades, NSA has prepared special reports for the president's eyes only, containing extremely sensitive intelligence. For the last three weeks, the NSA has reportedly stopped doing this, fearing Trump and his staff cannot keep their best Signals Intelligence secrets. Why risk your most sensitive information if the president may ignore it anyway?

    A senior Pentagon official was quoted as saying: "Since January 20, we've assumed that the Kremlin has ears inside the SITROOM [White House Situation Room]. There's not much the Russians don't know at this point."

    This is what extreme hubris coupled with extreme Narcissistic Personality Disorder in the West Wing looks like. Time to dust off your copies of "Red Storm Rising" and "Red Dawn". Welcome to the new Amerika, comrade!

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Feb. 15, 2017 6:37 p.m.

    Well Worf, since you were so obsessed with Obama's golf game, you must be relieved to see that Trump is using Air Force One to weekly commute between Florida and DC every weekend to play golf. You must be outraged by the cost of such.... or the fact that American Taxpayers are getting to foot the bill now for securing three Presidential residences... New York for the ascent First Lady, Florida for the weekend away junkets, and of course DC.

    And no.... Obama didn't give the "Muslim Brotherhood" any money - he gave the Egyptian Government money. And for that fact, no President spends any money that congress doesn't authorize and allocate. If you have issues with money spent in Africa.... talk to your local congressman.

  • UtahTroutStalker Draper, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 6:33 p.m.

    Chaffetz......oh Chaffetz.......Chaffetz...... come out and play.

    C'mon man. Where are you Jason? That Kellyanne fiasco, and the Mar-a-largo thing look ridiculous compared to what is unfolding.

    You lost credibility with 30-40% of your constituency a long time ago, now you run the risk of losing credibility with another 20-30%.

    Anyone else willing to run on the GOP ticket? I think it might be time for a change.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 5:32 p.m.

    As of 5:20 pm Wednesday 2/15/17, I have read all 45 comments.

    Thank all of you for taking the time to comment.

    One topic not covered was Mr. chaffetz issuing 70 subpoenas AFTER the FBI has cleared Mrs. Clinton.

    Mr.chaffetz...

    Where are your subpoenas of trump and the trump cartel?

    You only have to get to the 70th subpoena of trump and his cartel to prove you are really not a hyper partisan enabler for trump and his cartel

    Please show your integrity and ethical standards by going after trump and his cartel the way you went after Mrs. Clinton.

    Thank you DN for approving all of these comments.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Feb. 15, 2017 4:03 p.m.

    @Quaker: thanks for posting the succession order...this same point came up over lunch today...I lost appetite thinking of Ryan as POTUS, but I digress.

    Depending on how things shake out, it is not clear if this would be a case of succession or some one-off re-do...as bizarre as it seems to type that.

    Ryan moving up to POTUS via succession might occur if both Trump and Pence were impeached, made effective at exactly the same moment. That would be a case where a validly elected POTUS was there one moment, and then gone the next...and no VP below at that instant to assume the top position...and thus reaching down to pluck Ryan up from 3rd in line.

    But what if the Presidential election results and inauguration/oath are invalidated, without impeachment or removal of otherwise legit POTUS or VP, thus no true 'vacancy' that succession would fill? SCOTUS may find the infiltration and effective control of the Executive Branch by a foreign power is not anticipated by the Constitution for conventional succession.

    BTW: I doubt Pence was in the loop enough to be impeached...a possible silver lining to Trump's disrespectfull treatment.

  • A Quaker Brooklyn, NY
    Feb. 15, 2017 1:52 p.m.

    @StephenDaedalus: There's no reason for the GOP to fear losing the WH, even if they bag Pence along with Trump. The order of succession runs almost entirely through them.

    3 - Speaker of the House -- Ryan
    4 - President Pro-Tem of the Senate -- Orrin Hatch
    5 - Secretary of State -- Rex Tillerson
    6 - Secty of Treasury -- Mnuchin
    7 - Defense -- Mattis
    8 - A.G. -- Sessions

    Mattis is technically an Independent, but that's probably only on paper. Now, Tillerson and Mnuchin have known extensive dealings with Kremlin-connected individuals, so if this blows up Bigly, we could well eliminate them, but I don't see anything pulling Ryan or Hatch out of the queue, and they're at the front, anyway.

  • Swimmer Honeyville, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 1:04 p.m.

    Totally enjoying this drama. Didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. But Trump's ego is going to get him in a lot of trouble. It's already starting. My prediction: The GOP will find some way to impeach and remove him from office. Dems will be more than happy to assist. Trump will facilitate it because he believes he is above the law.

    Good drama. No one could have predicted this.

  • Nichiro-san Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 12:24 p.m.

    worf - McAllen, TX
    Feb. 15, 2017 10:51 a.m.

    "How's that coming along?"

    FYI: Barack Obama is no longer the President of the United States.

    And what does your comment have to do with the discussion? Unless you are in total support of Donald Trump and his collaboration with the Russians, where are you going with this?

    Kellyanne Conway will no longer be invited as a guest on 'Morning Joe' and may have to satisfy her need for attention on Fox News exclusively. Stephen Miller has also been criticized for lying in support of Trump and may have few appearances on news programs going forward.

    And Trump was in it from the beginning, requesting that his aides conspire with the Russians for whatever help they could provide, sending Michael Flynn out to tell the Russians they have a good friend in the White House, and then having Flynn bite the bullet in order to protect his image.

    How many Trump voters are left? Beyond the 35% who believe in Trump, he is rapidly losing any credibility he had. Trump sat on the story for a month before asking Flynn to take the hit. He hoped it would go away. Now it is bigger than ever.

  • Queen of Hearts Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 15, 2017 12:13 p.m.

    worf - McAllen, TX
    Feb. 15, 2017 10:51 a.m.

    "Trump should follow the footsteps of Obama."

    Need a diversionary maneuver? A little smoke-and-mirror distraction?

    Donald Trump only has credibility with his supporters. Only 35% of the American people. They will believe everything he says and avoid the media reports we are seeing because Trump told them it is all "fake news". Anything that is critical of Trump is "fake news" and so the current story about Trump being in cahoots with the Russians is to be dismissed as "fake news".

    The leaks about this whole Russian mess he calls "illegal" much as Trump's calls federal judges "so-called". His attempts to discredit anyone who does not agree with him whole-heartedly are to be dismissed as malcontents and "paid protesters".

    After three weeks and the Trump administration is in total chaos with the mastermind barely holding it together. But his supporters love him all the same because he "tells it like it is" even if it's a lie. Now we see Trump holding news conferences and only talking with the conservative media because they don't ask difficult questions.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Feb. 15, 2017 11:49 a.m.

    Discussing the potential impeachment of Trump and his replacement by Pence overlooks the nature of the allegations.

    Impeachment is appropriate when the President breaks the law, and rules of succession would normally move the VP to the top spot.

    Alas, these are not normal times, or allegations.

    Continued scrutiny of Flynn's actions may well show that the Trump-Pence campaign actively colluded with a foreign power to win the election.

    Specifically, the Trump-Pence campaign may have encouraged and coordinated with Russia to selectively leak information illegally obtained from the DNC for purpose of winning the election.

    If Pence was elected as VP as a direct consequence of a successful intelligence operation by a foreign power, he is no mere understudy to the President, waiting in the wings until his GOP friends in Congress get around to impeaching his erratic boss.

    No. Pence's election as VP would be as invalid as Trump's, if due to the same treasonous collusion to aid and abet infiltration by America's enemies.

    A question of first impression for SCOTUS, and why the GOP will keep their inquiries as shallow as possible so as not to lose Pence and WH.

  • A Quaker Brooklyn, NY
    Feb. 15, 2017 11:36 a.m.

    @UtahGirlChronicles: I _wish_ it was just amateur hour. Mr. Trump is a master at deflection and misdirection. Whenever he fears the public is focusing on an important issue, he sets off a tweetstorm in another direction. This is true malevolence, in action.

    @65TossPowerTrap: This is far less about revenge, and much more about desperation. With Trump having control or influence over the DOJ, Attorney General, DNI, NSC, and the Senate Intelligence Committee, there was no other way to get the story out to force anyone to do anything. Those who fed this story to the papers are the only patriots in this picture. If not for them, we'd be living in a lawless dictatorship. We may yet, unless Chaffetz and the others step up.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 11:23 a.m.

    Donald Trump likes to operate under extremely tight message control. Nothing goes on in his business and administration without his approval. This is why he has employees and others with whom he does business sign non-disclosure agreements. His entire being is focus on protecting the Trump brand, and he will go to great lengths to do that. Loyalty is rewarded. Disloyalty and criticism is savagely attacked. That's why he says he's a counter-puncher. You do something to him and he hits back with everything at his disposal to destroy you.

    Unfortunately, being president doesn't give him the same power as being the CEO of his company. He buckles at the judiciary having oversight on his actions. He doesn't like it. That's why Stephen Miller was sent out to tell the Sunday news shows that "[Trump] should not be questioned. It is an administration without accountability.

    Nothing goes out, nothing gets done, without his direct approval. If he sees it on television, he will send out a flurry of tweets to reinforce his message. Hence, Michael Flynn was acting, in the telephone call and the denials, on Trump's orders. And he (Trump) tried to cover it up.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 11:00 a.m.

    This is worse than Watergate and Trump is blaming the media for reporting the truth. His fake media and war on media were made because he knows what is coming down soon.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Feb. 15, 2017 10:51 a.m.

    Trump should follow the footsteps of Obama.

    Hit the golf course. A professional who would send billions of dollars worth of weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood, sneaking millions to Iran, and Mexican drug cartels.

    And yes, sending billions for African infrastructure. How's that coming along?

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Feb. 15, 2017 10:48 a.m.

    Will Flynn be Trump's John Dean?

    Specifically, will Flynn cut a deal to avoid prosecution or minimize punishment?

    Only Flynn knows what he has done, but it is unimaginable under these circumstances that he has not retained independent legal counsel to evaluate his legal exposure and options...even if only to confirm he is 100% in the clear.

    If not, here is what we can expect if he follows the John Dean template;

    - Flynn's full disclosure of all that he has done, who knew or authorized his actions, and everything he knows about Trump advisors irregular contacts with Russian officials and operatives.

    - Depending on severity of his own wrong-doing, Flynn could be granted full immunity from prosecution or maybe a relative slap on the wrist in terms of jail time. Retention of his rank and pension are additional bargaining chips.

    Here is where game-theory meets the Potamac: no other Trump advisor can be sure of Flynn's next move, what he knows, or will say. If -their-attorneys see potential legal exposure, they may advise cutting a deal before Flynn cuts his.

    Buckle up -- things may move fast from here on.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 10:42 a.m.

    Wz - Norfolk , MA
    Feb. 15, 2017 5:57 a.m.

    "What does it mean to say "he knew" about the Flynn situation?"

    It certainly doesn't mean we have to read between the lines.

    It means that Donald Trump was informed, according to current reports, at least a month before Michael Flynn resigned.

    It means that Trump sat on the intelligence trying to figure how to best handle this public relations mess.

    It means that Trump didn't want to remove Flynn and was trying to cover-up the story with his top aides and Mike Pence going out and lying to the media.

    It means that the Trump campaign was in contact with the Russians throughout the campaign. With Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager before Kellyanne Conway came on board, it was years.

    And it probably means that Trump was in it from the beginning. He gave instruction to Flynn to tell the Russians "not to worry", they will have a friend in the White House.

    Throughout the campaign, Trump encouraged the Russians to hack the DNC and Hillary Clinton and release embarrassing and controversial information through WikiLeaks.

    It's not the crime. It's the cover-up.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 10:25 a.m.

    Russia has secretly deployed a new cruise missile that American officials say violates a landmark arms control treaty, posing a major test for President Trump as his administration is facing a crisis over its ties to Moscow.

    No national security adviser.
    Unfilled positions at the State Department and the Pentagon.

    Russia does see a weak America, one being led by amateurs and traitors.

  • UtahTroutStalker Draper, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 9:14 a.m.

    Wow, it just keeps getting better.

    What we need to know is what Flynn told the FBI. If he lied to the FBI that is huge. I am pretty sure that lying to the FBI is a felony.

    Jason Chaffetz please start investigating this. I mean the Mar-0-largo scandal is ok, but pales in comparison.

    Who knows where this could lead? Now that I think of it, the story does say that the Donald kept the VP unaware of all this. One could assume that sets up some plausible deniability so if the Trump wants to bow out early then Pence could take over. Was that the plan all along?

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 9:07 a.m.

    People!

    Set your political affiliation aside and acknowledge, Trump is merely the new "head gator in the swamp".

    Trump is "King of the Swamp", now he has to own it.

    Great start buddy!

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Feb. 15, 2017 8:48 a.m.

    This is what happens when you accuse the existing intelligence community of being like Nazi Germany. They get payback. These people know where all the skeletons are hidden. Kudos to them.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 8:10 a.m.

    @counter intelligence
    The difference between the early days of the Obama administration and Trump's is startling.
    Obama was dealing with the worst recession in 75 years, and two wars. They moved legislation thru Congress that helped save the world from global economic collapse, reversed negative employment trends, and restored global trust in America.
    Meanwhile Trump and his gold old boys have four weeks of self inflicted wounds while alienating our allies and the rest of the civilized world. The only ones who seems to be happy with Trump is Putin and those that hate Hillary more than they love our country.

  • IceCreamGhost Sandy, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 8:02 a.m.

    This is very disturbing news. I would feel more comfortable if Mike Pence were to take over, everyone Trump surrounds himself with seems to be a yes-man or someone willing to fill the campaign coffers. Is there anyone willing to stand up to him?

    There is too much money in politics. It will be America's undoing if it is not addressed.

  • JWL Seattle, WA
    Feb. 15, 2017 6:39 a.m.

    I cannot fathom why Chaffetz is not outraged by this Flynn illegal collusion with the Russians. Now we learn that at least 4 Trump campaign aides may have been colluding with the Russians during the election. Trump surely must have known. We need a full independent investigation of these ties to the Russians, including a full review of Trump’s tax returns and his cabinet’s ties to the Russians. It’s the patriotic duty of Chaffetz and his fellow Republicans to call for this investigation. We cannot have an administration that is compromised by and beholden to an enemy state.

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    Feb. 15, 2017 6:32 a.m.

    At 7:08 am EST trump tweeted: "This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign."

    Huh. Like Nixon claiming Watergate was a coverup for McGovern's losing campaign. Except even Nixon, at his paranoid worst, didn't stoop that low.

    The 6:40 AM Tweet claimed is all fake news.

    Trump's 8:24 AM tweet demands investigation into the leaks...

    So. In 90 minutes it was fake, it was a cover-up, it was real but the problem was the leak not the crimes being reported.

    Oh - and Watergate? Criminal acts breaking election laws.

    Trump Administration now has third resignation by a key advisor who was colluding with enemy foreign governments, with strong rumors of more to come.

    That isn't political chicanery, it is treason.

    Wouldn't it be funny if DeVoss was the *best* Trump appointment, not the worst?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 15, 2017 6:30 a.m.

    And yet President Trump is far more worried that this information was "leaked" than he is about the ramifications of it.

    Hopefully, the logical, reasonable moderates in the GOP can pull along the partisans to do what is right for America.

    Chaffetz has already shown that his job as oversight only applies to Democrats and is driven solely by partisanship. If he is forced to investigate, it will certainly not be with the veracity of Benghazi.

    Seriously people. Partisanship is by far the greatest threat to our country.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 6:29 a.m.

    I would be very surprised if this matter, like Watergate, didn't go further up the "food chain" than the perpetrator who was caught. With Watergate, after repeated denials from Nixon, it was discovered that the blame for the cover up, and potentially the entire action, went all the way to the top and Nixon became an ex-President as a result. I would be very surprised if the same did not happen in this matter.

    Flynn is a retired general who well understands the chain of command. He knows that there are some things he can undertake on his own, but the really major things (like colluding with intelligence agents of a foreign government that is antithetical to the United States) can only be done on the order of someone with more authority than Flynn possessed. There is only one of those "superior authority" people in this equation -- 45, the guy at the top.

    Flynn may have taken the blame for this, but I would be very surprised if Flynn didn't act on orders from 45 and is now trying to "take a bullet" for 45. This is a major problem. We need to know what happened. Investigate everyone, including 45. Find out what happened.

  • Wz Norfolk , MA
    Feb. 15, 2017 5:57 a.m.

    What does it mean to say "he knew" about the Flynn situation? He possibly received a report about it. Should he then drop everything and fire the man without discussion, confirmation, or consideration? Should he have gone to the press?

    The idea that it was wrong to make sure of the situation before acting is silly.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Feb. 15, 2017 5:32 a.m.

    This morning Trump blames those loyal to Hillary in the intelligence community of trying to undermine him. That the issue isn't that the Trump administration and campaign lied to the American people, but that the lies were uncovered by the leaks from the intelligence community. That this is just a matter of sore losers trying to get back at Trump.

    And the Republican party is supporting this narrative. That the discovery of the lies is worse than the lies themselves.

    Some how we should disconnect these events with the parallels of the increased Russian backed aggression in the Ukraine, and the deployment of new cruise missile batteries by the Russians in violation current non-proliferation treaties. That all this is just sour grapes. May all be coincidence.... may all be innocent... but you would think Chaffetz and his counterparts would want to know.

    All the while Chaffetz claims we still need years more investigation into Benghazi. Commence head scratching.

  • Jim Chee Ka'anapali, HI
    Feb. 15, 2017 2:39 a.m.

    #3

    Now we have Trump trying to cover-up Flynn's actions and doesn't tell anyone about the mess developing for almost a month, letting two of his top aides and Mike Pence go out and defend Flynn to the media without telling them what really happened.

    Flynn only followed orders like a good soldier. Trump is the general to the general and finds he is now facing a public relations crisis that will make him look bad. This is something Trump cannot tolerate. So he asks Flynn to take the hit. First is is Flynn resigning. Next the story is Trump firing Flynn for lack of trust. In fact, it is Trump who coordinated all contact with the Russians, delegating responsibility to certain trusted and loyal people.

    The Trump-Russia connection may go back several years. Initially it was business. Then it became politics. Nothing was in place for the 2012 election so Trump backed out. However, everything was there for 2016.

    Now, understand this is only conjecture, but as the story develops, it is getting very strange in the resemblance to what I have described. Trump's supporters will deny the possibility, yet daily stories in the press are eerily confirmatory.

  • Jim Chee Ka'anapali, HI
    Feb. 15, 2017 2:30 a.m.

    #2

    Also, Trump has a plan to win the primary because he has an extensive network of advance people who have recognized a way to exploit the zeitgeist that is running though the critical electoral states that determine the election. Although Trump is taking a risk, he is a risk player and believes he has the advantage with his Russia connections.

    Trump cannot see the role that FBI will play in the election, but he has the Russians and years of hatred of Hillary built up through the Republican Party and its Propaganda Machine in A.M. talk radio and Fox News.

    Throughout the primary, Trump's people work with the Russians to penetrate the Democratic National Committee. It is difficult because Trump brings so much baggage and is more disliked than Hillary. But the Russians come through with the added benefit of the FBI to stop Hillary even though she wins the popular vote. The critical electoral college goes to Trump.

    Now is time for payback since the Obama administration is upset with the Russians for its interference in the election. Trump instructs Mike Flynn to let the Russians know they have a friend in the White House, and Flynn makes a call.

  • Jim Chee Ka'anapali, HI
    Feb. 15, 2017 2:18 a.m.

    What a mess! As the story starts to unravel, the Trump administration is hurriedly trying to stop the leaks in the dike not knowing that everything is about to breach the whole thing.

    Let me propose a hypothetical based on what we know now.

    In 2012 Donald Trump began his quest for the Republican nomination for president. After some success with his birther claims, he eventual withdrew. Now, fast-forward to 2016. The birther nonsense has been debunked, so Trump looks around and finds many disgruntled voters angry with everything about Washington. He decides to run as an outsider and populist. He tailors his campaign to appeal to the electorate he has identified, but that is not enough because he will, if he gets the nomination, be probably running against Hillary Clinton who is a formidable candidate.

    As is currently starting to emerge from the initial investigation, we have learned that several of Trump's campaign aids have been communicating with the Russians. This is significant because the Russians have capabilities to interfere with and help influence his campaign. The Russians would rather see Trump than Clinton if he can make it through the primary.

  • Bob K Davis, CA
    Feb. 15, 2017 1:39 a.m.

    As the article and the other comments suggest, the aroma coming from the Oval Office and the Congress is not really fitting in with what we would like to think are American ideals.
    I'm glad to see Utahns standing up and demanding that their representatives do what's right.
    I personally think neither party did a good job of inspiring America to doits best, and in the absence of strong guidance, too many voters acted from Fear
    I can't resist asking whether the lady with the emails -- you know, the one who's not locked up and will never be locked up because she didn't commit any crimes-- is looking a little better in hindsight.

  • JTB ccs Eden, UT
    Feb. 15, 2017 12:36 a.m.

    Did the Trump team really cheat to win? Is Trump really in charge or is he truly just a puppet? I'm not big on conspiracy theories but this really does look pretty bad. We need to insist on independent investigation to expose the unbiased truth. That's why tax returns are so important. They are pure unfiltered data--the great equalizer. We can vet candidates more thoroughly if we have those objective unpoliticized documents to examine.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 11:59 p.m.

    10CC
    "The dam is beginning to burst:"

    Naw: the left became unhinged long ago

    BTW: Obama had four major turnovers in his first 100 days

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 11:34 p.m.

    Will the usual self-proclaimed extremist, obstructionist, anti-equality, alt-right, Trumpian, self proclaimed "patriots" still attempt to defend the indefensible? Furthermore. President Obama has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter whatsoever.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 11:16 p.m.

    We now know that Trump campaign aides had constant contact with Russian intelligence. It is this fact which makes this presidential transition unlike any other, and brings up the prospect of a constitutional crisis. But better to have this crisis than install a permanent dictatorship.

  • delasalle Sandy, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:44 p.m.

    What is it, Junior Jazz, amateur hour, kindergarten, all rolled into one at the White House these days? And we thought Obama was inexperienced.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:38 p.m.

    Utah's embarrassment will be the lack of investigation by Jason Chaffetz. This is insulting to our American values. The facts are starting to stream out and treasonous behavior with Russia is one of the major concerns.

    The lack of Republican leadership here is telling. Russia attacks our Democracy and the GOP fails to respond? Americans are getting wiser to this swamp that is getting bigger and bigger. The GOP needs to get to the bottom of this and they need to hold Trump accountable soon.

    The first few weeks of this Presidency have a been a disaster to honest, decent, and honorable Americans. This battle is just beginning. if you think Jason took the heat at his town hall meeting, that was nothing compared to the anger that Americans are having now.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 10:34 p.m.

    What is also amazing to me is that Trump didn't share this information with his VICE PRESIDENT. He let him go on all the Sunday shows and defend Flynn. That is so far beyond the pale, how will Pence ever trust Trump again? Disgraceful!

    We have a president that rides roughshod over people and justifies it in his own mind by saying he's so smart he doesn't need to listen to anyone else. The arrogance boggles the mind.

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:22 p.m.

    Watergate.
    Iran/Contra.
    Now this.

    Any claim the GOP represents the "moral majority" or is the flag waving patriotic party should be filed with legends of the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy.

    If this is played as expected, Trump and the GOP will deny and deflect and finally the whole pile of lies will collapse, leading to ever-expanding investigations and hearings until the 2018 elections when the adults will again be in charge.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 9:21 p.m.

    When you think Jason Chaffetz will be difference, that he really wants to clean up corruption, then reality sets in. He's beholden to Trump and the GOP and nothing but a partisan. Time to put up or shut Mr. Chaffetz or get yourself off the ethics committee.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:50 p.m.

    The dam is beginning to burst:

    Multiple media outlets, including the NY Times, are reporting tonight that US intelligence is aware that Trump campaign aides had repeated contact with Russian Intelligence operatives, *during* the campaign.

    The 35 Russian operatives that were kicked out of the country on December 29, in the sanctions enacted by President Obama, were "signal officers", ie, communications experts.

    It's starting to appear that Flynn's *5* phone calls to the Russian ambassador that day involved Russia's alarm at the discovery / degradation of their communications apparatus in the DC area.

    We're definitely in uncharted waters...

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:14 p.m.

    President Obama would have been excoriated over this, and rightly so.
    For the republicans that are supposed to be in an oversight role, I suspect more angry constituents in future town halls.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:14 p.m.

    And OurvCongressman Jason Chavitz will do what?

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 8:13 p.m.

    Here you go Rep. Chaffetz. Your top priority has just been presented to you on a Golden platter. Get to it post haste. The American people will be anxiously awaiting your findings on this very serious matter.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:46 p.m.

    "Trump knew Flynn misled WH weeks before ouster"

    And Teflon Don isn't worried a bit.

    Congressional Republicans will do everything possible to protect Trump by hiding evidence and quashing any investigations . . . Especially Jason Chaffetz, the Chairman of the House Oversight Committee.

    We Americans have been attacked by our nation's enemies, the Russians, and their allies, the Republicans.

    Congressional Republicans owe Teflon Don and the Russians big time.

    Not only did the Russians break American laws to install Trump in office, they helped Republicans gain more seats in Congress.

    And now Congressional Republicans, including Orrin Hatch, are doing everything in their power to protect the treasonous and criminal Trump administration.

    Congressional Republicans . . . It's their way of saying "Thank you."

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:45 p.m.

    Yeah-and Trump kept Flynn in on national security briefings, after being warned that Flynn was beholden to the Russians. Think about this-in the past few weeks, Iran & North Korea have fired off ballistic missiles- against UN policy. Today, Russia has placed cruise missiles in violation of a treaty with the US and is harassing US planes and warships.
    Trump is too arrogant to see that Russia, China & the Middle East are ganging up. He's alienated our Allies. Soon, it'll be us against the world. It won't be good.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 7:06 p.m.

    This is not a surprise to anyone. The only reason Trump finally ousted Flynn was because it was coming out anyway. With Republicans getting onboard, finally, about an investigation of not only Flynn, but Russian interference, perhaps our own Jason Chaffetz will see the need to investigate. However, while Mitch McConnell stated that it is likely that this will happen, Chaffetz downplayed this and declined to investigate. Everyone else can see it, but Chaffetz is so obviously partisan that he won't do his job. He is creating a situation where the nation's security has the potential to be at risk.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 14, 2017 6:49 p.m.

    So Trump and Steve Bannon patched together an anti-Muslim immigration policy in about an hour but it took Trump three weeks to dump Flynn after the Justice Department and the FBI told him Flynn may have compromised himself with the Russians?

    How much time did Trump waste looking up Arnold Schwarzenegger's ratings? How much time did he waste complaining about his daughter's treatment by Nordstrom's? Once Trump was told about Flynn, didn't he continue complaining about the size of his inauguration crowd?

    We've got a real amateur here, folks.