IRS to delay tax refunds for millions of low-income families

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  • Legal? Saint George, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 9:17 a.m.

    A relative (accounting graduate) found seasonal work for several years with a national tax preparation company. She was appalled at the people who appeared on the tax prep doorstep on January 2 each year with documentation in hand, wanting help to apply for earned income credit and other freebies. They asked her to submit tax returns on the basis of questionable and fraudulent documents. They wanted the tax prep company to submit for them because the money would come back more quickly :) She questioned them on the document sources, etc and then stated she could help them but would have to report them. They got mad and belligerent and lectured her on the tax laws and their rights and blah blah blah; and they apparently found someone else with less scruples to help them.

    This is the type of fraud that the IRS is attempting to thwart. Unfortunately some law-abiding citizens get "hurt" in the process. Also unfortunate that some people spend a great deal of time AND energy trying to cheat when they could put their brains to work doing something useful and honest.

  • JMHO Kanab, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:17 a.m.

    Refundable tax credits are the problem. The example in the article shows why. The family shouldn't get more in refunds than they paid in. Now they paid in $500 and get back $1000. Doesn't make sense. A refund is just that...get your money back...not get more money back.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 11:27 p.m.

    fullypresent...I know the liberal party line is that the rich don't pay their fair share. Well, they provide the employment, housing, financial risk, and just about everything else to keep things going. When I was single I paid far more income tax than my married brother with 4 children, both state and federal. And if there are tax incentives, say to build apartments, why do you think they were put in place? Without them, who would want to build apartments, without which all these people would have no place to live. I'll tell you something---poor people don't pay any income tax either, so why aren't you railing on them to pay "their fare share?" Or don't they need to contribute, just take?

    When I was in business I frequently paid some of my employees more than I was paid, and I owned the company. What was the drag on it? Taxes, required insurances, workers compensation, etc which were all just money pits. I guess we were paying so that the poor could complain that we weren't paying our fair share, although we barely eeked out a living, going from 6 employees to 1.5 thanks to Obama's policies.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:04 p.m.

    toosmartforyou - Kaysville, UT
    It is due to all the fraud poor people are committing with these tax refund programs. No one should get refunds that do not pay any taxes or get a refund that is higher than what they have paid in taxes. Next they need to go after the rich who do not pay their fair share of taxes. Also, get rid of the law that allowed Trump as a billionaire to not pay any federal taxes for the past 20 yrs. If they could stop all the tax fraud out there and could probably wipe out half of the deficit. It would be worth the cost of accountants and enforcers to do that.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:11 p.m.

    This must be Obama's way to reduce the deficit. It is interesting that he was OK spending trillions of dollars for economics programs that didn't work (Shovel-ready jobs; Obamacare) while now hitting poor persons that qualify for the refund. I guess that's part of his "legacy" isn't it?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 3:46 p.m.

    This is long overdue. The billions of dollars lost through fraud by sending "refund" checks to people who paid nothing in taxes is shameful. Sending the money to people who are not even eligible is even worse!

    The IRS should be working as hard to crack down on this type of tax fraud as they are on auditing actual taxpayers who are cheating.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 2:25 p.m.

    This is truly an evil organization.