Always remember that "hacked the election," is liberal speak for
"released 100% authentic documents that showed real democrat dirty
The Blame Game. This is the only game the Democrat party knows. Obama and
Clinton are masters of the blame game. The election, the economy, ISIS,
Obamacare, you name it ...all somebody elses fault. No no -- never ever look in
the mirror and reflect for a moment on the real problem because the real problem
is the person staring back at you. This all screams of narcissism and both Obama
and Clinton are infected all the way to their bones. As the New Testament
teaches "ever learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the
truth" (2 Timothy 3:7 )
Amazing Hillary apologists forget, 60 percent of the us population considered
the best word to describe Hillary was, dishonest. This far before her campaign
rigged the nomination against Bernie. She was a liar before any
released e-mails. Wikileaks just confirmed her campaign was just despicable.
Note the only electoral voters going rogue so far, those supposed to
be voting for Hillary.
Bifftacular - Spanish Fork, UtDec. 16, 2016 12:29 p.m."Russia did not . . . "No. The Russians hacked American
computer systems. That is a threat to the nation. That is the issue, not
Hillary's dressing style. Why not criticize Trump's ill-fitting suits
since he has gained so much weight over the years?Would you be upset
if I hacked your computer and stole your information and made it available to
everyone?Since you appear to be very partisan, your comments will be
regarded with that in mind. However, to excuse illegal Russian cyber-espionage
as okay when it is directed against those you don't like is to align
yourself with the Russian spymasters.Wouldn't it be great to
have the information they have on Donald Trump and the Republican National
Party? Would you be okay with that? I'm sure they have it and are waiting
for the right time to use it.Maintaining a strictly partisan view of
American affairs doesn't do much to make things better. It only keeps the
divisions that interfere in any progress that can be made. We've put up
with this nonsense for the last 8 years.
4601 - Salt Lake City, UTDec. 18, 2016 10:45 a.m.The books are
open. The Clinton Foundation, in addition to doing exceptionally good work
around the world, remains controversial because there is so much noise about the
foundation that legitimate information is difficult to glean from the
accusations and defense of it.Republicans hate the Clinton
Foundation. That is a given. Therefore their position is biased from the get-go.
They embrace anything and everything the leadership says regardless of truth.
The Clinton's defend the foundation and its work regardless of some lack of
transparency.However, none of this comes near the illegal activity
of the Trump Foundation which essentially is a Donald Trump piggy bank. Trump
supporters and Republicans prefer to ignore the controversial aspects of the
foundation, particularly when it is used to basically bribe and payoff elected
officials.This in no way excuses the Clinton's lack of
transparency. Nonetheless, the partisan nature of the issue makes getting any
real information difficult at best. If you depend upon the major media and news
outlets, Republicans will criticize your source of information.
worf - Mcallen, TXDec. 16, 2016 10:12 p.m."Hmm? If Russia
could really influence the election. Why did Obama win the previous two? Or,
were those rigged by CNN"?Worf. Apparently you and the rest of
Texas missed a key point. President Obama overwhelmingly won both the electoral
college and the popular vote! Keep trying!
Cheshire Cat - Bronx, NY"So far he is just making himself and
his billionaire friends more wealthy."Simplistic? Many people
voted for Trump because he was perceived as the lesser of two evils. Some of us
voted for Neither. The record of crony capitalism, conflict of
interest and influence peddling in the Clinton-Obama era is evidence that making
yourself and friends wealthy is a bi-partisan activity. Solyndra and the Clinton
Foundation are but two of many examples.
Wow a lot of Trump love on this post! Some insertion of reality is in order.One, Clinton did win the majority of the popular vote -- by 2.5 million
votes by the last count. So all the rhetoric above about Trump's great
victory is really due to the imperfections of the electoral college where it
appears that in the last three Republican presidential victories this century,
the winner did NOT have a majority of votes. It may be in the future, the only
way a GOP candidate can win is via the electoral college -- not popular vote.Two, U.S. sanctions against Russia has hurt that country's economy,
and Clinton as Secretary of State has been viewed by Putin as a key nemesis on
the world stage. So, a "personal beef" seems like a
reasonable conclusion.Now, Trump has assets in Russia -- and its
lagging economy has likely hurt Trump's profits there. Is there any wonder
why Trump wants to make nice with Russian and bolster that country's
4601 - Salt Lake City, UTDec. 17, 2016 11:33 a.m."The
reason Ms. Clinton lost was Hillary Clinton. "That's rather
simplistic. Most votes by independents were made in the last weeks of the
election. The Russian hacks appear to have provided additional
"evidence" of Hillary's behavior and trust issues. But there was
also the Comey intervention and the years of of Republican propaganda to
discredit the Clintons over the past 30 years.Now the Republicans
have to find some way to control Donald Trump and keep him from doing the very
things they don't want. Since Trump fancies himself as that superb
negotiator, he likes to set up the negotiation by offering initial conditions
that everyone finds untenable. The the back-and-forth begins. However, a president cannot afford to take this type of strategy since the
consequences can be greater that either side may want. Extreme hardheadedness
can result in war. Also, if a Republican Congress takes a hard line, Trump can
always play his Supreme Court justice card and not give them a
ultra-conservative justice. So far he is just making himself and his billionaire
friends more wealthy.
BYUalum - South Jordan, UTDec. 17, 2016 10:12 p.m.Blaming
others for his own failings is a Trump hallmark.So it doesn't
bother you about the increasing information coming out about Russian involvement
in penetrating American computer systems and hacking systems of the DNC in order
to affect the U.S. election? Apparently, it appears that Trump apologists find
it necessary to side with Vladimir Putin and the Russian spy network over their
own government. This sounds treasonous.Donald Trump either is afraid
of something the Russians have learned about him over the past 30 years or he
doesn't want to jeopardize his business interests in Russia. He is
acknowledged to go to great lengths to protect his personal/business affairs,
but the Russians never signed a confidentiality agreement. What do you know
about it? Not what do you believe. What do you know?Many Trump
people say that he did not mean the more atrocious things he said during the
campaign, yet they don't know what he means if they refuse to take his
statements literally. They feel what he means. They have no supporting evidence
for what he means.
Anybody's guess what/who she will blame after January 20th.Stop
whining and making excuses. You lost! Go away!!
worf - Mcallen, TXDec. 17, 2016 1:03 p.m.You believe whatever
you want, but to deny the conclusions of those who should know tells us a lot.
Do you believe everything Donald Trump says? He is not know for his
intellectual curiosity or interest in the truth. It's all about Trump. If
you do or say what is complementary toward him, then he's a happy camper.
If you criticize him, the look out.One wonders what he would have
said if U.S. intelligence agencies told him that Osama bin Laden was intent on
attacking America? Does he go on his gut feeling? Maybe he would be more
accepting of information than he is with the Russians. It would be interesting
to know if he is afraid of what the Russians might reveal about him or how his
business interests in Russia are helped by his defense of Vladimir Putin.
Personal beef?Truth be known, it's more than just personal
beef, but it doesn't prove they hacked.
Deflecting blame for Ms. Clinton's election loss on the Russians is an
example of denying reality. The reason Ms. Clinton lost was Hillary Clinton. We
are angry that Russia meddled in our election, but we can't question the
truth in the exposed emails. We are cannot be certain what Trump will do, but we
knew that Clinton's election would mean more of the same corruption,
mendacity and bowing to the elite establishment.
NOTHING is ever the fault of the Clintons. It is always someone/something
GARY0Clinton's "brilliant legacy" was due to a
Republican congress, and George Bush did not ruin it, we were attacked,
remember?I think a whole country was breathing a sigh of relief Al
Gore wasn't president.And, if you cannot see the mess our
country is in, look around. We have hit an all time low, in every way.
Hmm?If Russia could really influence the election.Why
did Obama win the previous two?Or, were those rigged by CNN?
Hey David -"I believe the CIA and FBI reports that Russia hacked
into the Clinton campaign's computers and released information. Why would
Russia do this?"To weaken America . . . Why else?Our
"greatest geopolitical threat" prefers to deal with a weak America.And with Republicans in power, our nation is much, much, much weaker
than when Democrats are in power.And now as America enters another
mini dark age of Republican leadership, Russia is comparatively much stronger.
And wouldn't you know it? . . . Both the Republicans and our
international enemies are happy with that prospect.Remember how GW
Bush took Bill Clinton's brilliant legacy and utterly destroyed it? . . .
That's nothing compared to what Trump can do.
I just don't get how lying and cheating escapes this woman....especially
given her husband an expert on the subjects!
To: lost in DCPlease do not ridicule Hillary's fashion choice.
Rather, join me in looking forward to that happy day when she will be wearing a
new orange jump suit.
--The Pentagon reports getting 10 million cyberintrusion attempts per day.--The National Nuclear Security Administration, an arm of the Energy
Department, also records 10 million hacks a day.--The United Kingdom
reports 120,000 cyberincidents a day.Nothing new here, been going on
for years, its what governments do...its also what we do.What is new
here is Hillary's and her lib friends desperate creativity in blaming her
loss on anyone but herself. The hope is maybe convince some gullible fools in
masse and maybe have an outside attempt at a bloodless coup.
So why did Hillary lose? Was it the FBI letter? Was it Russia hacking the
elections? Was it a white-lash as the left media has called it? Or was it the
middle class that was fed up with 8 years of a stagnant economy that isn't
going anywhere for the middle class. Liberals are always trying to point the
finger at something else. Just like they have been doing for the past 8 years.
I wonder if Obama believes Romney now...that Russia is America's greatest
geopolitical threat.I believe the CIA and FBI reports that Russia
hacked into the Clinton campaign's computers and released information. Why
would Russia do this? To help Trump win, or to create discord and revolt in
America? Was it to punish Obama for trying to influence elections in Russia
(Obama did the same to Israel)? Regardless, what did we learn from
the release of Clinton's emails? That she was colluding with American
media to influence the elections through deception, that she had low regard for
Americans in general, and that she was untruthful in her public statements. We
learned that the DNC undermined Bernie Sanders to ensure a Clinton win in the
primaries. We learned the extreme liberalism of Clinton. We learned of
corruption, lies, deceit. We learned that Clinton should not ever be president.
Hillary, you should take your sour grapes and ferment them slowly into a fine
whine. If you spill the whine and stain your pant suit, blame Putin.
I have thought for a long time that as vulnerable as our election process is, it
would be too tempting for Putin not to meddle with it for no other reason than
to show our follies. He learned one lesson from his predecessors. You do not
have to put one third of the country behind bars, seal the border, or have
one-candidate elections to have control. It can be done very well in a system
where people are free to speak and vote as they please if you are a pro at
manipulating public opinion. He has had tremendous success with this in Russia,
and how he is expanding to the US. His success is astounding - he got somebody
with 70% or so disapproval rating to win the presidential election.
Hillary blames Russia for Americans learning the real truth about her. If we
didn't know she was a liar, would she still be a liar?
On November 7th Hillary was on top of the world, sure to swiftly ride into the
White House on a wave of support that would never end, reminiscent of the old
slogan "The sun never goes down on the British Empire." A liberal press
was so enamored with her that they forgot to be objective and see what was
really happening. In the end, that arrogance helped Trump.Of all
the scenarios that seemed the least pausible on that day, was the one where
Hillary lost and then blamed it on the Russian government. Wow, is that woman
not ever able to handle the truth or what? She makes Al Gore look like a piker
when it comes to Sour Grapes and ignoring reality in losing a presidential
election, which is the more interesting (i.e. hypocritical) because she made
such a point of him needing to accept the outcome. Related to this,
I can hardly wait to see what "punishment" Obama will dish out to the
Russians, especially after his tokenism resistance in Syria and the Ukraine.
hilary, buy some sweeteners for your grapes.But you know what? Had
you never broken the law and used a private server, they would not have been
able to hack you so easily and none of this would have ever been an issue. Want
to find out who was responsible for you losing the election? Look in the
mirror.BifftacularUgly suit pants. I almost died from
Of course Hillary was hurt by the election hacks and WHY??? Because those hacks
showed the DNC working with CNN and NBC to cover for Hillary and hurt Trump. So
here we have a main steam media being part of team Hillary. This is the same as
s Super Bowl team finding out the refs were paid off by one of the teams to win
the game.Now I suspect we would all be very happy to come forward with that
revelation prior to the Super Bowl itself. This is called CHEATING by team
Hillary. Of course cheating sours in the belly of voters and for good reason.
Clinton was corrupt to the core and the more emails that surfaced simply added
to her damage path. This is all about getting caught by team Hillary and because
it was the Russians it is somehow bad? I don't think so. I want to
personally THANK Putin for uncovering the Dirty Democrat tactics. If it were
Trump that they caught I would want to know that too!! But Trump was clean and
that is why he won and why Hillary lost. Get over it lefties.
But Hutter your ok with Hillary and Obama messing with the sovereignty of other
nations?Where do you draw the line?By the way we now
know Obama knew about the Russians attempts months before the election but
didn't want to mess up Hillary's win. So now spin the new Benghazi
Hillary, what is your real message? It sounds to me that you are saying you
would have gotten away with your lying, cheating, and illegal behavior if only
you had not been caught by hackers.Why are you not denying the
truthfulness of the hacked info? Is this an admission of guilt? I
will agree with you on one thing - it is easier to kill the messenger than to
kill the message.
What was hacked?How the DNC rigged the system against Bernie?They cheated America!Who ever did the hacking. Thank you
for exposing the coverup.
So what, exactly, did Russia hack? None of the "Russia is why Hillary
lost!" people have ever explained what Russia hacked, and the precise
effect.As best as I can tell, Russia is accused of hacking the DNC
and possibly the Clinton campaign and releasing a bunch of emails.That's it. The release of Hillary's emails is the reason Hillary
lost? In other words, by merely shining some transparency and telling the truth,
enough people were disgusted that they didn't vote for her.So
what the left is saying here is that if only the American people had never
learned the truth, Hillary would have won. That's basically it, isn't
it? That the truth about Hillary ended her campaign, as people didn't vote
for her.Sounds to me that if your candidate has to keep things
hidden to win, maybe you shouldn't be running.
Cutedog...Since you're OK with the idea that it did not affect the
outcome of the election, are you otherwise good with this violation of our
national sovereignty, or should it be considered a larger problem?
Hillary may be on to something here! Perhaps the Russians have developed some
sort of super mind control weapon where they use mental telepathy to control the
brain waves of Americans so they voted for Trump instead of her? How else could
Russians influence the election, if you believe they did so?
Clintons talking about meddling in elections is a fine example of chutzpah.You simply cannot believe a single thing that any of the Clinton dynasty
says.However, a surprisingly large percentage of very gullible
people, Democrat voters and the media (but I repeat myself) simply accept every
utterance as if it were passed down from God on stone tablets.Clinton lost, fair and square. Get over it. Go back to your
"foundation" and whatever it does.
FBI agrees with CIA. Everyone onboard but presumptive president elect. Time for
action on the Russian plot.
No, Hillary, that is not why you list the election. Look at the electoral map.
Hillary, your comments are sour grapes and for someone that said they'd
accept the results of the election, you come out of this more and more petty by
the day. Russia did not:1- Write or send the embarrassing DNC
emails2- Get CNN to collude with you on the debate questions3- Call
Trump supporters "deplorables"4- Double Obamacare premiums the
week of the election5- Double down on the philosophy that abortion is
okay, particularly in the third trimester6- Look the other way when Bill
was carousing with women (while he was actually President) but then raise a hue
& cry about Trump's peccadilloes as if you are the champion of women7- Do national business on insecure personal email servers. 8- Delete
30,000 emails9- Botch Benghazi10- Wear ugly suit pantsIf
Russia tried to influence the election, that absolutely should be stopped. But
quit blaming everyone and anything for your defeat other than yourself.
Yes I would sys Putin's personal beef would be a reason, Obama and Clinton
were meddling in Russia's elections, Obama was meddling in Israel's
elections. What Hillary should get a pass from meddling?Go figure.
Countries meddle it's what they do.