Past CIA director, British premier say Trump needs spy data

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  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Dec. 15, 2016 4:41 p.m.

    Thid, GWBush's 911 wars and his lack of interest to capture or kill Osama bin Laden has resulted in the deaths of 1.3 million people and over 4.6 million people have been displaced. The total cost of these wars to-date is nearly 2,000,000,000,000.00 dollars.

    Now exactly was you saying about Benghazi? Do you really want to compare this to Hillary's record?

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 15, 2016 10:26 a.m.

    Ignorance is bliss, no wonder Trump is so happy.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Dec. 15, 2016 8:39 a.m.

    GWBush did not take his briefings seriously and 2996 Americans died, 6000 wounded, 5400 persons diagnosed with cancer as a direct result of the towers coming down, 5000 soldiers died as a result of 911, 3.3 TRILLION in US TAXS DOLLARS spent and people want to tell us his briefings do not matter.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Dec. 15, 2016 1:09 a.m.

    UtahBlueDevil: I fear you have your facts mixed up! The only people who totally ignored the CIA intelligence and subsequent warnings of danger in Benghazi wasn't conservatives, it was Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama! But like she said, "What difference does it make now"? It was that darn video, wasn't it?

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 5:01 p.m.

    HSTucker said: "Conservatives prefer to start with the raw data, e.g., the Government Accountability Institute report"

    Government Accountability Institute (GAI) is a conservative nonprofit thinktank.
    Members of GAI's board of directors include Stephen Bannon, Owen Smith, Ron Robinson, and Hunter Lewis.

    Hardly a news source or accurate place for information. Raw data, that's rich. Breibart is nothing but a propaganda sight.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 4:01 p.m.

    I understand that conservatives and Trump supporters want to cheer on their guy. But is there value in a daily intelligence briefing? Would data presented on a daily basis paint a picture of developing risks throughout the world? Does inconsistent intelligence briefings introduce risks?

    There are intelligence professionals who collect and analyze this data. Is it the president's job to assimilate it all?

    If, or when, something happens...will Trump be more knowledgeable with daily briefings or with irregular briefings?

    I believe the president should receive daily briefings because the president has a role to play in our military--the commander in chief. I also believe he is speaking out irresponsibly. I hope he is simply thumping his chest and will decide to take the daily briefings as he should.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 3:32 p.m.

    Sven said:
    Dailymail.com
    30 September 2014
    “President Barack Obama has skipped his in-person daily intelligence briefing on four out of every seven days of his presidency, according to a shocking report released Tuesday."

    ...only shocking if you don't understand what your being told is malarky,

    The way this story is twisted, it would have Republican icon Ronald Reagan skipping his intelligence briefings 99 percent of the time. Only Alt-Right sights are pushing this false narrative but what would you expect.

    Obama reads his PDB every day, but he does not always require an in-person briefing every day. He reads them ahead of time so he can ask questions if a briefing is needed. This is how Obama structured his White House operation, so it is specious to say he has “skipped” a meeting that was not actually scheduled.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 2:53 p.m.

    Sven, best post ever. Why is the media allowing this dishonesty?

  • HSTucker Holladay, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 2:42 p.m.

    @Esquire: Thank you for demonstrating the problem conservatives have being understood and believed by liberals. Liberals tend to believe the guy who is friends with a guy who claims to be the guy who knows. Conservatives prefer to start with the raw data, e.g., the Government Accountability Institute report (thanks, Sven), and reach our own conclusions.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 2:35 p.m.

    Don't know which is worse, not attending the briefings(Trump) or attending them and not taking the info seriously (Obama).

  • UtahBlueDevil Lehi Ut & Durham, NC
    Dec. 14, 2016 2:17 p.m.

    Funny seeing how quickly things spin around...

    "All of the sudden liberals love the CIA? What did they think of at least two former CIA directors who told us intelligence gathered from enhanced interrogation (water boarding) saved lives? Opps! Seems it depends on what the "intelligence is"! Depends on what "is, is"!"

    Maybe that should read "All of a sudden conservatives hate the CIA? What did they think of the CIA directors who told us intelligence gathered from Iraq proved we needed to go to war to stop Weapons of Mass Destruction. Opps! Seems it depends on what the "intelligence is"! Depends on what "is, is"!"

    Kind of like the CIA intelligence from Benghazi - it was good then, but somehow now is worthless, not worth Trump's time. Interesting how that whole thing works out.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 1:50 p.m.

    @ DN Subscriber, your claim that Obama didn't take daily security briefings is patently false. I am friends with one of the guys who delivers them. Making things up is quite unbecoming.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Dec. 14, 2016 12:39 p.m.

    Yes, the CIA has been wrong before and no doubt will be again. Even so, it takes more than someone, even the president, to simply brush off a CIA conclusion with a sentence or two. Proving (or disproving) something takes a little more.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Dec. 14, 2016 12:37 p.m.

    Trump has never been effective arguing facts. It showed in the three debates in which his opponent demonstrated a command of issues that Trump couldn’t touch.

    Reliance on instinct and intuition will reduce issues to a lowest common denominator. Sometimes it may work for him but it’s irresponsible to standardly operate in that fashion. The more he does, the greater chances grow that one day he will slip up badly. If someone could just get through to him.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Dec. 14, 2016 10:47 a.m.

    Intelligence from the CIA? All of the sudden liberals love the CIA? What did they think of at least two former CIA directors who told us intelligence gathered from enhanced interrogation (water boarding) saved lives? Opps! Seems it depends on what the "intelligence is"! Depends on what "is, is"!

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Dec. 14, 2016 10:35 a.m.

    The more I hear it, the funnier it gets:

    Trump: I don't need "intelligence" briefings...'cause I'm like, I'm a smart person.

    [HaHaHa]

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 10:33 a.m.

    National security and knowledge about what other nations (and non-nation-state actors) are doing is something every President needs to pay special attention to.

    Trump might be able to do a good job winging it on gut feelings on economic or domestic policy issues. But, he needs a factual basis to avoid blundering into bad decisions with unintended second and third order consequences in security matters.

    Trump should take the daily intel brief every day, unlike Obama who skipped a majority of them, even after being sworn in. Maybe someone can tell him they will give him a lot more bargaining chips when making a deal and he will see the benefit, if not on pure security grounds.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 10:21 a.m.

    worf - your believe that it is OK for Trump to miss out on intelligence briefings because Obama did? Remember the classic line that moms use on their kids? "If your friend jumped off a cliff, would you jump too?"

    Your hope is that Trump is a better president than Obama, right? So if you didn't like Benghazi, then you want Trump to do the opposite -- attend security briefings. Quit making excuses for Trump.

    Benghazi happened 3 and 1/2 years into Obama's presidency. You could maybe... maybe... make the excuse that the security briefings were all sounding the same. Trump has attended maybe 6 briefings and already he understands the complexity of the world? Doubtful.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 14, 2016 9:48 a.m.

    @Esquire,

    How smart is mankind?

    Through out history, we've had wars, starvation, and poverty. Mankind has repeatedly chosen evil leaders.

    Give this man a chance. Perhaps Trump will be a refreshing change, and maybe not.

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 9:48 a.m.

    Esquire - Springville, UT

    "@ worf, get real.

    Trump is too smart for the rest of humankind. He will either do the job right, or he will be the greatest failure in the history of the U.S. Presidency. And the consequences of the latter are chilling...."

    ====

    Was it also "chilling" to you that Obama and Hillary gave us ISIS, and then had the gall to call them the "JV Team"?

    The only people who need to get real are the hypocrites on the Left. The only Legacy Barry has given us is ISIS and a destabilized Middle East. He's been president for the past 8 years in case you've forgotten; these are his policies that have destabilized the world, and brought our nation crushing debt with only 1% annual growth!

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 9:37 a.m.

    Since DN refuses to do their journalistic due diligence, I’ll do it for them:

    ====

    Dailymail.com

    30 September 2014

    “President Barack Obama has skipped his in-person daily intelligence briefing on four out of every seven days of his presidency, according to a shocking report released Tuesday.

    The Government Accountability Institute, previously best-known for needling members of Congress over insider-trading deals that lax laws have rendered legal, used the official White House calendar to compile a list of the days when Obama wasn't scheduled to receive a briefing.

    The resulting numbers showed that he only attended the Presidential Daily Brief 42.1 per cent of the time.”

    ====

    Do you Libs really think we’re not going to call you out on your hypocrisy?

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 9:31 a.m.

    @Worf.
    Absolute nonsense, just because you say something doesn't make it true.
    Obama Did NOT miss a briefing warning of Benghazi that is a lie.
    Your other speculation is just that, more Trump Style facts that bear no basis in reality.

    On the other hand Bush did ignore meetings that led to 911, but conservatives keep trying to make Benghazi a bigger deal because of semantics?

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 9:25 a.m.

    @ worf, get real.

    Trump is too smart for the rest of humankind. He will either do the job right, or he will be the greatest failure in the history of the U.S. Presidency. And the consequences of the latter are chilling....

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 14, 2016 9:04 a.m.

    Our soon to be former president, was unaware of the dangers facing our men in Benghazi, and found out other events by watching television. Missed many of his staff meetings while on the golf course, or attending campaign dinners. He was late to many of the meetings he did attend, and often ended them early. The logs are available for viewing.

    Let lighten up. Mr Trump is not the president yet.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Dec. 14, 2016 8:44 a.m.

    Trump owes it to the country to stay on top of the latest intelligence. No one can be a responsible President who doesn't want to be bothered with details that might be critical. If Trump can't hack it, we should have found that out during the campaign.

  • FanOf"ChuckARama" Vernal, UT
    Dec. 14, 2016 8:14 a.m.

    As expected, Trump's impulsiveness kicking in during an interview. I will go with Cameron on this one for it is against Trump's impulsiveness to need to know but "want to know" like the way he runs his business.