jaredw007 "The issue with the Bernie supporters...They're just flat out
being unreasonable and immature."You are so right. Everyone knew
Bernie was just a straw man to make it look like Hillary actually won a primary.
Why should the people who gave their time, money and hearts to his campaign be
upset to find out it was all a charade for Hillary? Even though the
race was rigged, they should be happy they got so many bones thrown their way.
So eight million people donated $27 each. That's less than a pair of
Birkenstocks. And about those 12 million who went to the polls thinking it
mattered, they need to grow up and stop being so immature. The party elites know
best and Trump is who they should be mad at.
Lew Elton Jeppson: "Says this for Donald Trump, he's willing to listen
to the millions of white men in the rust belt who have had their livelihoods and
their lives destroyed by the American corporate and political
establishment."And yet... All of the Trump branded products are
made... over seas. Including all of his "make America great again"
campaign gear. Made in other countries. And he's got an
increasingly visible history of refusing to pay small and medium companies that
have supplied goods and services to his business... there is a long, long, long
line of lawsuites from those companies trying to get paid, and a line of those
companies that went under. And his financial standing in the US is
so bad he's been blackballed by most banks. He is, however, in debt over
$600,000,000 to Russian investors and banks. But he looks concerned
when unemployed blue collar people talk to him and that means he's going
to... what? "Fix it"? That would harm his well established business
model. Why would he "fix" a system that has benefited him so well?
Lagamorph,The issue with the Bernie supporters has little if
anything to do with wanting "better of their candidate." They're
just flat out being unreasonable and immature. As Sanders himself and others
pointed out, Hillary and the DNC caved in to 90% of what he wanted on the party
platform. That's just unheard of for a winning candidate to concede that
much to a party rival. These people will still complain if Hillary granted 100%
of their demands and signed a pledge with her own blood. Nobody is expecting
them to just stay silent and fall in line but there's a big difference
between disagreeing and just being disagreeable.
"Bernie or bust Dems are being ridiculous...."Yes--they are
Democrats. Ridiculous Democrat is a redundancy.
Says this for Donald Trump, he's willing to listen to the millions of white
men in the rust belt who have had their livelihoods and their lives destroyed by
the American corporate and political establishment. Though I am
leftist in my politics, I am disgusted with the Democratic establishment which
is tone deaf to the plight of these men. I understand because I am one of them.
a word to Sanders suporters --- the fix is in in case you hadn't noticed.
The Hillary hard liners want you to just sit down and keep quiet and vote how
they tell you to vote. Your opinion doesn't matter...to them. During the
primary you saw Hillary as a liar and an arrogant corrupt rich ---not to be
trusted --- polititian who puts her own career above that of America -- always
has and always will. So you can cave in or you can stand your ground even though
the Hollywood elites are mad at you.
Hey LOU, since you loved Bookers speech, which I admit might appeal to the
uninformed; let me tell you what I thought. Here is a guy talking about our
Declaration of Independence and re-framing it to the "Declaration of
Interdependence", code word for 'codependency. As in being codependent
on the government. He talked about rugged individualism as a myth, it never
happened. But most appalling was his talk of the Constitution and the
"brilliance" of the Founding Father's, yet the Dems disregard and
ignore the Constitution and Bill of Rights at every opportunity, unless it
benefits them. The anti-Second Amendment Party talking about the Constitution
and Brilliance of the Founding Fathers. What a joke. I for one wasn't
Geez is this telling or what? All the speakers at the DNC are Hollywood actors.
How embarrasing. That tells everything you need to know about the Democrat party
and where its values are....or lack of values. For Democrats you have the
Hollywood crowd + the radical pony-tail college professor crowd which amounts to
1960's hippies. For the GOP you have normal Americans who work for a living
and go to church on Sunday. Two Americas. Actually I would say only one America
remains and that is the America you heard from at the RNC....Navy Seals and
Judeo/Christan men and women. You know traditional Americans. The other
so-called America is made up of those who hate this country and want to re-write
it from scratch....using the Communist manifesto.
GaryOYou don't follow Hillary much, do you? You just vote for
her. You know everything that Trump says, but you don't follow Clintons.
You stay true to that. I'll give that to you.
@OHBU - I had the same thought, and am not sure if the purpose of this article
was to highlight the speakers people who know popular culture might recognize.
I started watching earlier in the night and was pleased to see the breadth and
knowledge of the speakers. Whether you agree with their positions or not, what
I saw was (1) many members of the Latino Congressional Caucus, (2) a disability
rights advocate; (3) a person who was trapped in the Trump U scam; (4) Sen.
Franken; (5) Sarah Silverman talking for less than 5 minutes; (6) a primetime
lineup of Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison, FLOTUS, and Bernie
Sanders, and (7) musical performances by Demi Lovato and Paul Simon. It was a
really substantive night and I appreciated the focus on what the Democratic
Party believes in and what their policy goals are.
Hey Bountiful Guy -"I guess she forgot about the
'great' wall of Mexico, the 'great' restoration of freedoms,
the 'great' restoration of military might, the 'great'
lowering of the huge debt created by Obama, the 'great' accountability
of the State Department, the 'great' restoration of respect on the
world stage, and every other 'great' thing Trump talks about . . .
"Haha!In other words, Trump offers us a great big
pile of . . . words.. . . Backed up by NOTHING.You know
what that is? That is fraud on a massive scale. As frauds go, it's great.
If he carries off, it may be the greatest fraud ever perpetrated."I love the uneducated!" - Donald TrumpHmmmmm . . . I
wonder why he loves the uneducated so much? . . . Any guesses?
This is a great display of Democrat Sheeple. Everybody from Bernie on down is
now endorsing Hillary. Bernie stated multiple times that Hillary wasn't
qualified or that she was unfit to be President. Yet now that she one the
Caucus she is suddenly qualified???
"To Bernie or bust people, you're being ridiculous." And
that's supposed to convince them to change their minds? That kind of
confrontational rhetoric only makes the Bernie supporters sink in their heels
even deeper. So stand your ground, Bernie supporters!
I don't care much for Trump, but I hate the Clinton's with every fiber
of my being!!! Can you see my spittle flecks on the paper? Romney would have
been the better POTUS, but for some reason I don't understand he
wasn't chosen. So, for me, the lesser of two evils is Trump. It sure feels
like the last days to me.
@Herbert Gravy 9:45 a.m. July 26, 2016Elizabeth Warren and Al
Franken. Need one say anymore about the current state of the Democratic
Party?--------------They are two excellent Senators who
work hard and well for the well-being of the United States and (all of) its
people. AND they succeed in their efforts. What more needs to be said?
Hey Sanefan -"It's all fluff and entertainment. Comics,
musicians, and Franken."And it was EXCELLENT entertainment . . .
With the GOP and their ridiculous leader as the foil.I enjoyed it
immensely.Of course, we didn't have the kind of speakers so
valued by "Conservatives," like Chachi from "Happy Days," and
that male Calvin Klein underwear model.All we had were competent and
brilliant people dedicated to making the world a better place . . . But that was
sooooooooooooo much better than the GOP convention where meanness and cruelty
were elevated to the level of attributes.Contrary to what you may
prefer to believe, we Democrats enjoy being the good guys . . . Especially when
the difference between to the Parties is so striking.Here we have
Donald Trump as the leader of the GOP . . . Greedy, mean, loud, narcissistic,
hateful, unprincipled, compulsive, confused, and absolutely clueless about
foreign and domestic policy. He is the kind of guy who cruelly mocks the
disabled. As Mitt Romney noted, he is dishonest. He cheats and steals.And then we have Hillary Clinton . . . His complete OPPOSITE.How revealing is it that Utah will UNDOUBTEDLY vote for Donald Trump and his
Republican aiders and abettors?
Impartial7Elizabeth Warren - "Trump has no plans for anything
great".I guess she forgot about the 'great' wall of
Mexico, the 'great' restoration of freedoms, the 'great'
restoration of military might, the 'great' lowering of the huge debt
created by Obama, the 'great' accountability of the State Department,
the 'great' restoration of respect on the world stage, and every other
'great' thing Trump talks about. All we get from Hillary are
'great' secrets, 'great' lack of transparency,
'great' untruths told, 'great' increases in taxes,
'great' entitlements to those who can but don't work, un-kept
'great' promises, 'great' blame on women and Republicans,
and 'great' more of the same Washington. Go Elizabeth. Keep
reminding us of Trump and ignoring Hillary. Does anyone remember when Michelle
was so ashamed at being American? That was also 'great'.
What the DNC did really isn't that corrupt. So, they favored a registered
Democrat of an independent who caucuses with the Dems, big deal. They
didn't commit any actual fraud like vote suppression or rigging ballot
@Impartial7Probably would have been a big improvement. Agree?
Instead of sharing the inspirational speeches of Michelle Obama, Tim Kaine, Cory
Booker, or Bernie Sanders -- to name just a few -- the DN shared Sarah
Silverman? Deseret News, what is your moral role in objectively informing the
@Herbert Gravy;"Elizabeth Warren and Al Franken. Need one say anymore
about the current state of the Democratic Party?"Yeah-2
Senators. I guess they should have got an underwear model like Antonio Sabato
Jr, or a long unemployed actor like Chachi?
@65TossPT;"First of all who is Sarah Silverman? Oh I get it - Sarah
Silverman is yet another shill for the Clinton Machine. "Umm.
Sarah Silverman was one of Bernie's most vocal supporters. She was asking
for unity now.
At least Sarah Silverman admitted she's seeing a shrink.
Donal Trump is not running on "fluff and insults". What is
wrong with Fair trade? What is wrong with secured borders and controlled
immigration? What is wrong with a strong military to ensure that no other
country would dare mess with us and threaten the lives of our children and
grandchildren?What is wrong with destroying ISIS and groups like
them who murder innocent people, including children, just because they can?What is wrong with allowing and encouraging American industry to bring
back trillions of dollars from abroad and creating millions of jobs here?These are just a few of the important changes that a President Trump
could and would bring to the American people if he can get the cooperation of a
responsible Congress. To vote for anyone else would be disastrous.
Interesting--out of all the speakers at last night's convention--Cory
Booker, Michelle Obama, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders--the DNews leads
with a story about Sarah Silverman. Plays right into the narrative that the
Dems are all Hollywood (see: Sanefan). Meanwhile, Bernie essentially said the
same thing, he just did it in a more methodical and convincing manner. Sanders and Warren have been working to change the platform--and they
did. They want to work on legislation, but embittered Bernie supporters
don't see how much power the Senate can have with an ally--even an
imperfect one--in the White House. If you're a Sanders
supporter, ask yourself this--who do you want dictating the legislation being
sent to the President--the likes of Cruz or Sanders and Warren?
What will be the country's response to Trump this Fall if a California and
NY jury finds him guilty of Fraud? Will it just be a validation for what so
many of us already know and will Trumpsters even care?
Elizabeth Warren and Al Franken. Need one say anymore about the current state
of the Democratic Party?
Ah, but dust always seems to settle. Get out the dust rag.
With all due respect, Simon needs to hang up the vocal chords...I will never be
able to listen to "Bridge Over Troubled Water" again!
Yes, the Plutocrats had agreed that democracy is ridiculous. Trust the elites,
we know what is best for you. Just send us your taxes and we know how to spend
them. You don't even need to know and if you ask, we can make up a story
you will believe.
LagamorphThe reality personality on the ticket is spot on. Your
comments about Rush and Beck are clever words, but there's no truth that
they give political and moral direction to the party. They are deejays and have
no more influence than that. And I must have missed them on stage at the
convention.Have you watched any of the Democrat Convention? If you
start watching, you'll notice all the celebrities on stage glorifying a
candidate who, with her husband, has a long history of foolish behavior, even
excused for criminal behavior. And they don't speak the truth often. And
Hillary named women to be the fault of her husband's behavior while knowing
that her husband did the very things she said he did not. Trump may not be much
of a moral person, but don't begin to tout Hillary as any better in that
regard.Americans who want better of their candidate are not
If there was ever a time for a third-party - it is right now. I can't
stand either one of these candidates. I'm waiting for a party that
actually represents middle-class America. We have the Country Club Party and
the Liberal Elite Party. Neither one fits me. Actually I would settle for the
old Republican Party. You remember them right? The party of pragmatic
problem-solvers? Too bad it was hijacked by the do-nothing idealogues.
My first comment was denied.I was invited to edit and resubmit my
comment.The re-Publican Political Machine showed Americans the
machine would stick by its sterling conservative principles by
nominating/crowning an individual who is running on insulting Americans.All fluff and insults.It is easy to see that re-Publicans
view fluff and insults as an excellent way to reach out to voters.
Thank you Russia for educating America of the corruptness of their political
leaders.Our nation should be ashame.
just another bad SNL episode, when are they gonna cancel that show.. it is not
even funny anymore
Of course it is interesting/peculiar the main article about the Convention in DN
is a picture of Sarah Silverman. None of the heavy hitters---Elizabeth Warren,
no Michelle Obama etc.
First of all who is Sarah Silverman? Oh I get it - Sarah Silverman is yet
another shill for the Clinton Machine. Sorry Silverman, but Americans like to
believe that their vote counts, and when they realize that their vote has been
hijacked - they get "ridiculous."
I really wish Bernie had been the candidate. But his influence lives on, and I
think his movement will as well. This wasn't his turn, but he has done some
great things, and has a lot of class and integrity. Thanks, Bernie.
@SanefanLast night had Booker, Michelle Obama, Elizabeth Warren, and
Bernie Sanders speak. This article just seems like the entertainment weekly
She is right. They are being ridiculous. It was ridiculous for
Bernie supports to assume he ever had a chance of winning let alone now. Between
the media collusion, the moles working in Bernie's campaign, the victory
fund being funneled to Hillary's campaign and the super delegates, Bernie
was never meant to be more than a straw-man for Clinton.Everyone but
Bernie supporters knew this before the emails confirmed it. But to hold onto
hope now really is ridiculous. They need fall in line with what their party
elites have instructed them to do like the other democrats. How
Realism337: "So more than ever, the Democratic Party has crowned the
entertainment industry to be the social, economic, political and moral compass
of our nation."Umm, which party has a reality TV star at the top
of its ticket? And which party gets the majority of its social, economic,
political and moral direction from two college dropout former Top 40 radio
deejays (Rush and Glenn)?Sure, Trump is a business mogul, but his
business performance is lackluster. He is a political success because of his
skills as an entertainer, not as a businessman. His companies have
underperformed the Standard and Poor Index, which is basically an average of all
business activity. He is actually a minor player in the New York development
and real estate scene. Like his buildings, his business acumen is all
façade and no substance.
Hey Lou Montana -"Love Trumps Hate!" True
Trump Loves Hate . . . Trump Hates Love.And the GOP LOVES
Trump . . . Especially Utah, the reddest red state in the union.
When Trump spews insults and demeaning words about our fellow Americans, I think
of the poem by Maya Angelou. You know how it begins: "You may write me down
in history / With your bitter, twisted lies, / You may trod me in the very dirt
/ But still, like dust, I'll rise."Love Trumps Hate! by
LOVE TRUMPS HATE! "Patriotism is love of country. But you
can't love your country without loving your countrymen and countrywomen. We
don't always have to agree, but we must empower each other, we must find
the common ground, we must build bridges across our differences to pursue the
common good."by Cory Booker
To tell these people that they are ridiculous would be like telling Mitt Romney
that he is ridiculous.
So more than ever, the Democratic Party has crowned the entertainment industry
to be the social, economic, political and moral compass of our nation. This is
Bernie Sanders received 43% of the popular vote in the primaries. Those are
Trump like numbers. Unless you're living in some Banana Republic
you're not going to be President.
Not a person mentioned that I have an ounce of respect for. This is so Dems.
It's all fluff and entertainment. Comics, musicians, and Franken. Ya
gotta be kidding me. Geez, is that all you got. Just like the last nearly 8
years, zero substance.
"To the Bernie or bust people, you're being ridiculous."That's right. It was ridiculous to believe he had a chance against the
Party-favored Hillary Clinton machine.