Sarah Silverman: Bernie-or-bust Dems 'being ridiculous'

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  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    July 26, 2016 2:34 p.m.

    jaredw007 "The issue with the Bernie supporters...They're just flat out being unreasonable and immature."

    You are so right. Everyone knew Bernie was just a straw man to make it look like Hillary actually won a primary. Why should the people who gave their time, money and hearts to his campaign be upset to find out it was all a charade for Hillary?

    Even though the race was rigged, they should be happy they got so many bones thrown their way. So eight million people donated $27 each. That's less than a pair of Birkenstocks. And about those 12 million who went to the polls thinking it mattered, they need to grow up and stop being so immature. The party elites know best and Trump is who they should be mad at.

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    July 26, 2016 2:27 p.m.

    Lew Elton Jeppson: "Says this for Donald Trump, he's willing to listen to the millions of white men in the rust belt who have had their livelihoods and their lives destroyed by the American corporate and political establishment."

    And yet... All of the Trump branded products are made... over seas. Including all of his "make America great again" campaign gear. Made in other countries.

    And he's got an increasingly visible history of refusing to pay small and medium companies that have supplied goods and services to his business... there is a long, long, long line of lawsuites from those companies trying to get paid, and a line of those companies that went under.

    And his financial standing in the US is so bad he's been blackballed by most banks. He is, however, in debt over $600,000,000 to Russian investors and banks.

    But he looks concerned when unemployed blue collar people talk to him and that means he's going to... what? "Fix it"? That would harm his well established business model. Why would he "fix" a system that has benefited him so well?

  • jaredw007 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2016 1:45 p.m.

    Lagamorph,

    The issue with the Bernie supporters has little if anything to do with wanting "better of their candidate." They're just flat out being unreasonable and immature. As Sanders himself and others pointed out, Hillary and the DNC caved in to 90% of what he wanted on the party platform. That's just unheard of for a winning candidate to concede that much to a party rival. These people will still complain if Hillary granted 100% of their demands and signed a pledge with her own blood. Nobody is expecting them to just stay silent and fall in line but there's a big difference between disagreeing and just being disagreeable.

  • Jimbo Low PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    July 26, 2016 1:27 p.m.

    "Bernie or bust Dems are being ridiculous...."
    Yes--they are Democrats. Ridiculous Democrat is a redundancy.

  • Lew Elton Jeppson Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2016 1:23 p.m.

    Says this for Donald Trump, he's willing to listen to the millions of white men in the rust belt who have had their livelihoods and their lives destroyed by the American corporate and political establishment.

    Though I am leftist in my politics, I am disgusted with the Democratic establishment which is tone deaf to the plight of these men. I understand because I am one of them.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 26, 2016 1:14 p.m.

    a word to Sanders suporters --- the fix is in in case you hadn't noticed. The Hillary hard liners want you to just sit down and keep quiet and vote how they tell you to vote. Your opinion doesn't matter...to them. During the primary you saw Hillary as a liar and an arrogant corrupt rich ---not to be trusted --- polititian who puts her own career above that of America -- always has and always will. So you can cave in or you can stand your ground even though the Hollywood elites are mad at you.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    July 26, 2016 1:10 p.m.

    Hey LOU, since you loved Bookers speech, which I admit might appeal to the uninformed; let me tell you what I thought. Here is a guy talking about our Declaration of Independence and re-framing it to the "Declaration of Interdependence", code word for 'codependency. As in being codependent on the government. He talked about rugged individualism as a myth, it never happened. But most appalling was his talk of the Constitution and the "brilliance" of the Founding Father's, yet the Dems disregard and ignore the Constitution and Bill of Rights at every opportunity, unless it benefits them. The anti-Second Amendment Party talking about the Constitution and Brilliance of the Founding Fathers. What a joke. I for one wasn't fooled bit.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 26, 2016 1:09 p.m.

    Geez is this telling or what? All the speakers at the DNC are Hollywood actors. How embarrasing. That tells everything you need to know about the Democrat party and where its values are....or lack of values. For Democrats you have the Hollywood crowd + the radical pony-tail college professor crowd which amounts to 1960's hippies. For the GOP you have normal Americans who work for a living and go to church on Sunday. Two Americas. Actually I would say only one America remains and that is the America you heard from at the RNC....Navy Seals and Judeo/Christan men and women. You know traditional Americans. The other so-called America is made up of those who hate this country and want to re-write it from scratch....using the Communist manifesto.

  • Bountiful Guy Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2016 1:08 p.m.

    GaryO

    You don't follow Hillary much, do you? You just vote for her. You know everything that Trump says, but you don't follow Clintons. You stay true to that. I'll give that to you.

  • daviscountycitizen Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2016 12:48 p.m.

    @OHBU - I had the same thought, and am not sure if the purpose of this article was to highlight the speakers people who know popular culture might recognize. I started watching earlier in the night and was pleased to see the breadth and knowledge of the speakers. Whether you agree with their positions or not, what I saw was (1) many members of the Latino Congressional Caucus, (2) a disability rights advocate; (3) a person who was trapped in the Trump U scam; (4) Sen. Franken; (5) Sarah Silverman talking for less than 5 minutes; (6) a primetime lineup of Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison, FLOTUS, and Bernie Sanders, and (7) musical performances by Demi Lovato and Paul Simon. It was a really substantive night and I appreciated the focus on what the Democratic Party believes in and what their policy goals are.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 26, 2016 12:30 p.m.

    Hey Bountiful Guy -

    "I guess she forgot about the 'great' wall of Mexico, the 'great' restoration of freedoms, the 'great' restoration of military might, the 'great' lowering of the huge debt created by Obama, the 'great' accountability of the State Department, the 'great' restoration of respect on the world stage, and every other 'great' thing Trump talks about . . . "

    Haha!

    In other words, Trump offers us a great big pile of . . . words.

    . . . Backed up by NOTHING.

    You know what that is? That is fraud on a massive scale. As frauds go, it's great. If he carries off, it may be the greatest fraud ever perpetrated.

    "I love the uneducated!" - Donald Trump

    Hmmmmm . . . I wonder why he loves the uneducated so much? . . . Any guesses?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 26, 2016 12:03 p.m.

    This is a great display of Democrat Sheeple. Everybody from Bernie on down is now endorsing Hillary. Bernie stated multiple times that Hillary wasn't qualified or that she was unfit to be President. Yet now that she one the Caucus she is suddenly qualified???

  • Hockey Fan Miles City, MT
    July 26, 2016 11:57 a.m.

    "To Bernie or bust people, you're being ridiculous." And that's supposed to convince them to change their minds? That kind of confrontational rhetoric only makes the Bernie supporters sink in their heels even deeper. So stand your ground, Bernie supporters!

  • MendonMick Mendon, UT
    July 26, 2016 11:55 a.m.

    I don't care much for Trump, but I hate the Clinton's with every fiber of my being!!! Can you see my spittle flecks on the paper? Romney would have been the better POTUS, but for some reason I don't understand he wasn't chosen. So, for me, the lesser of two evils is Trump. It sure feels like the last days to me.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    July 26, 2016 11:39 a.m.

    @Herbert Gravy 9:45 a.m. July 26, 2016

    Elizabeth Warren and Al Franken. Need one say anymore about the current state of the Democratic Party?

    --------------

    They are two excellent Senators who work hard and well for the well-being of the United States and (all of) its people. AND they succeed in their efforts. What more needs to be said?

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 26, 2016 11:20 a.m.

    Hey Sanefan -

    "It's all fluff and entertainment. Comics, musicians, and Franken."

    And it was EXCELLENT entertainment . . . With the GOP and their ridiculous leader as the foil.

    I enjoyed it immensely.

    Of course, we didn't have the kind of speakers so valued by "Conservatives," like Chachi from "Happy Days," and that male Calvin Klein underwear model.

    All we had were competent and brilliant people dedicated to making the world a better place . . . But that was sooooooooooooo much better than the GOP convention where meanness and cruelty were elevated to the level of attributes.

    Contrary to what you may prefer to believe, we Democrats enjoy being the good guys . . . Especially when the difference between to the Parties is so striking.

    Here we have Donald Trump as the leader of the GOP . . . Greedy, mean, loud, narcissistic, hateful, unprincipled, compulsive, confused, and absolutely clueless about foreign and domestic policy. He is the kind of guy who cruelly mocks the disabled. As Mitt Romney noted, he is dishonest. He cheats and steals.

    And then we have Hillary Clinton . . . His complete OPPOSITE.

    How revealing is it that Utah will UNDOUBTEDLY vote for Donald Trump and his Republican aiders and abettors?

  • Bountiful Guy Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2016 11:18 a.m.

    Impartial7

    Elizabeth Warren - "Trump has no plans for anything great".

    I guess she forgot about the 'great' wall of Mexico, the 'great' restoration of freedoms, the 'great' restoration of military might, the 'great' lowering of the huge debt created by Obama, the 'great' accountability of the State Department, the 'great' restoration of respect on the world stage, and every other 'great' thing Trump talks about. All we get from Hillary are 'great' secrets, 'great' lack of transparency, 'great' untruths told, 'great' increases in taxes, 'great' entitlements to those who can but don't work, un-kept 'great' promises, 'great' blame on women and Republicans, and 'great' more of the same Washington. Go Elizabeth. Keep reminding us of Trump and ignoring Hillary. Does anyone remember when Michelle was so ashamed at being American? That was also 'great'.

  • james d. morrison Boise, ID
    July 26, 2016 11:17 a.m.

    What the DNC did really isn't that corrupt. So, they favored a registered Democrat of an independent who caucuses with the Dems, big deal. They didn't commit any actual fraud like vote suppression or rigging ballot boxes.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    July 26, 2016 11:16 a.m.

    @Impartial7

    Probably would have been a big improvement. Agree?

  • Ophelia Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2016 10:54 a.m.

    Instead of sharing the inspirational speeches of Michelle Obama, Tim Kaine, Cory Booker, or Bernie Sanders -- to name just a few -- the DN shared Sarah Silverman? Deseret News, what is your moral role in objectively informing the public?

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    July 26, 2016 10:24 a.m.

    @Herbert Gravy;
    "Elizabeth Warren and Al Franken. Need one say anymore about the current state of the Democratic Party?"

    Yeah-2 Senators. I guess they should have got an underwear model like Antonio Sabato Jr, or a long unemployed actor like Chachi?

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    July 26, 2016 10:22 a.m.

    @65TossPT;
    "First of all who is Sarah Silverman? Oh I get it - Sarah Silverman is yet another shill for the Clinton Machine. "

    Umm. Sarah Silverman was one of Bernie's most vocal supporters. She was asking for unity now.

  • ImABeliever Provo, UT
    July 26, 2016 10:17 a.m.

    At least Sarah Silverman admitted she's seeing a shrink.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    July 26, 2016 10:07 a.m.

    Donal Trump is not running on "fluff and insults".

    What is wrong with Fair trade? What is wrong with secured borders and controlled immigration? What is wrong with a strong military to ensure that no other country would dare mess with us and threaten the lives of our children and grandchildren?

    What is wrong with destroying ISIS and groups like them who murder innocent people, including children, just because they can?

    What is wrong with allowing and encouraging American industry to bring back trillions of dollars from abroad and creating millions of jobs here?

    These are just a few of the important changes that a President Trump could and would bring to the American people if he can get the cooperation of a responsible Congress. To vote for anyone else would be disastrous.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    July 26, 2016 10:07 a.m.

    Interesting--out of all the speakers at last night's convention--Cory Booker, Michelle Obama, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders--the DNews leads with a story about Sarah Silverman. Plays right into the narrative that the Dems are all Hollywood (see: Sanefan). Meanwhile, Bernie essentially said the same thing, he just did it in a more methodical and convincing manner.

    Sanders and Warren have been working to change the platform--and they did. They want to work on legislation, but embittered Bernie supporters don't see how much power the Senate can have with an ally--even an imperfect one--in the White House.

    If you're a Sanders supporter, ask yourself this--who do you want dictating the legislation being sent to the President--the likes of Cruz or Sanders and Warren?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    July 26, 2016 10:04 a.m.

    What will be the country's response to Trump this Fall if a California and NY jury finds him guilty of Fraud? Will it just be a validation for what so many of us already know and will Trumpsters even care?

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    July 26, 2016 9:45 a.m.

    Elizabeth Warren and Al Franken. Need one say anymore about the current state of the Democratic Party?

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    July 26, 2016 9:41 a.m.

    Ah, but dust always seems to settle. Get out the dust rag.

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2016 9:41 a.m.

    With all due respect, Simon needs to hang up the vocal chords...I will never be able to listen to "Bridge Over Troubled Water" again!

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2016 9:40 a.m.

    Yes, the Plutocrats had agreed that democracy is ridiculous. Trust the elites, we know what is best for you. Just send us your taxes and we know how to spend them. You don't even need to know and if you ask, we can make up a story you will believe.

  • Bountiful Guy Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2016 9:33 a.m.

    Lagamorph

    The reality personality on the ticket is spot on. Your comments about Rush and Beck are clever words, but there's no truth that they give political and moral direction to the party. They are deejays and have no more influence than that. And I must have missed them on stage at the convention.

    Have you watched any of the Democrat Convention? If you start watching, you'll notice all the celebrities on stage glorifying a candidate who, with her husband, has a long history of foolish behavior, even excused for criminal behavior. And they don't speak the truth often. And Hillary named women to be the fault of her husband's behavior while knowing that her husband did the very things she said he did not. Trump may not be much of a moral person, but don't begin to tout Hillary as any better in that regard.

    Americans who want better of their candidate are not 'ridiculous'.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    July 26, 2016 9:30 a.m.

    If there was ever a time for a third-party - it is right now. I can't stand either one of these candidates. I'm waiting for a party that actually represents middle-class America. We have the Country Club Party and the Liberal Elite Party. Neither one fits me. Actually I would settle for the old Republican Party. You remember them right? The party of pragmatic problem-solvers? Too bad it was hijacked by the do-nothing idealogues.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    July 26, 2016 9:27 a.m.

    My first comment was denied.

    I was invited to edit and resubmit my comment.

    The re-Publican Political Machine showed Americans the machine would stick by its sterling conservative principles by nominating/crowning an individual who is running on insulting Americans.

    All fluff and insults.

    It is easy to see that re-Publicans view fluff and insults as an excellent way to reach out to voters.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 26, 2016 9:26 a.m.

    Thank you Russia for educating America of the corruptness of their political leaders.

    Our nation should be ashame.

  • CMO Beaver Beaver, UT
    July 26, 2016 9:25 a.m.

    just another bad SNL episode, when are they gonna cancel that show.. it is not even funny anymore

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 26, 2016 9:24 a.m.

    Of course it is interesting/peculiar the main article about the Convention in DN is a picture of Sarah Silverman. None of the heavy hitters---Elizabeth Warren, no Michelle Obama etc.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    July 26, 2016 9:22 a.m.

    First of all who is Sarah Silverman? Oh I get it - Sarah Silverman is yet another shill for the Clinton Machine. Sorry Silverman, but Americans like to believe that their vote counts, and when they realize that their vote has been hijacked - they get "ridiculous."

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    July 26, 2016 9:14 a.m.

    I really wish Bernie had been the candidate. But his influence lives on, and I think his movement will as well. This wasn't his turn, but he has done some great things, and has a lot of class and integrity. Thanks, Bernie.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2016 9:11 a.m.

    @Sanefan
    Last night had Booker, Michelle Obama, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders speak. This article just seems like the entertainment weekly coverage.

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    July 26, 2016 9:08 a.m.

    She is right. They are being ridiculous.

    It was ridiculous for Bernie supports to assume he ever had a chance of winning let alone now. Between the media collusion, the moles working in Bernie's campaign, the victory fund being funneled to Hillary's campaign and the super delegates, Bernie was never meant to be more than a straw-man for Clinton.

    Everyone but Bernie supporters knew this before the emails confirmed it. But to hold onto hope now really is ridiculous. They need fall in line with what their party elites have instructed them to do like the other democrats.

    How ridiculous!

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2016 8:59 a.m.

    Realism337: "So more than ever, the Democratic Party has crowned the entertainment industry to be the social, economic, political and moral compass of our nation."

    Umm, which party has a reality TV star at the top of its ticket? And which party gets the majority of its social, economic, political and moral direction from two college dropout former Top 40 radio deejays (Rush and Glenn)?

    Sure, Trump is a business mogul, but his business performance is lackluster. He is a political success because of his skills as an entertainer, not as a businessman. His companies have underperformed the Standard and Poor Index, which is basically an average of all business activity. He is actually a minor player in the New York development and real estate scene. Like his buildings, his business acumen is all fa├žade and no substance.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 26, 2016 8:51 a.m.

    Hey Lou Montana -

    "Love Trumps Hate!"

    True

    Trump Loves Hate . . . Trump Hates Love.

    And the GOP LOVES Trump . . . Especially Utah, the reddest red state in the union.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    July 26, 2016 8:45 a.m.

    When Trump spews insults and demeaning words about our fellow Americans, I think of the poem by Maya Angelou. You know how it begins: "You may write me down in history / With your bitter, twisted lies, / You may trod me in the very dirt / But still, like dust, I'll rise."

    Love Trumps Hate! by Cory Booker

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    July 26, 2016 8:41 a.m.

    LOVE TRUMPS HATE!

    "Patriotism is love of country. But you can't love your country without loving your countrymen and countrywomen. We don't always have to agree, but we must empower each other, we must find the common ground, we must build bridges across our differences to pursue the common good."

    by Cory Booker

  • Bountiful Guy Bountiful, UT
    July 26, 2016 8:40 a.m.

    To tell these people that they are ridiculous would be like telling Mitt Romney that he is ridiculous.

  • Realism337 Draper, UT
    July 26, 2016 8:33 a.m.

    So more than ever, the Democratic Party has crowned the entertainment industry to be the social, economic, political and moral compass of our nation. This is terrifying.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    July 26, 2016 8:25 a.m.

    Bernie Sanders received 43% of the popular vote in the primaries. Those are Trump like numbers. Unless you're living in some Banana Republic you're not going to be President.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    July 26, 2016 8:02 a.m.

    Not a person mentioned that I have an ounce of respect for. This is so Dems. It's all fluff and entertainment. Comics, musicians, and Franken. Ya gotta be kidding me. Geez, is that all you got. Just like the last nearly 8 years, zero substance.

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    July 26, 2016 8:00 a.m.

    "To the Bernie or bust people, you're being ridiculous."

    That's right. It was ridiculous to believe he had a chance against the Party-favored Hillary Clinton machine.