Police: Gunman who killed 3 was 'seeking out' officers

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  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    July 21, 2016 10:52 p.m.

    There is no excuse for this kind of violence from any race. It does not matter how wonderful his military record was or is. When he chose to do what he did he undid every accomplishment he may have had in life. We have to stop finding ways to divide ourselves from each other. Religion is a big divider. People let race be a big divider. People let money and social standing be a big divider. We need to start focusing on what we have in common as human beings. We also need people to quit making any excuses for the terrible violence out there. There is no excuse whatever race they are.

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    July 18, 2016 2:36 p.m.

    "We don't need careless accusations thrown around to score political points or to advance an agenda. We need to temper our words and open our hearts ... all of us," --- Obama

    It's almost laughable, isn't it?!!!! He should have been "leading" this country with an agenda of personal responsibility, thrift, hard work, and ethics for the past eight years.

    If ONLY....

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    July 18, 2016 2:34 p.m.

    Does this have anything to do with
    Civil Forfeiture Law? Can they take your bank cards and empty your account's. Rummer has it that is what is happening.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 18, 2016 1:11 p.m.

    To "UtahBlueDevil" what groups have been targeted by Conservatives? From what I have seen it is the LIBERALS that are demonizing everybody that has been getting shot. From Obama constantly stating that the police are wrong (when they were actually right) to Obama supporting a movement based on a lie and not putting a stop to them, your ilk has only made things worse.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    July 18, 2016 9:13 a.m.

    People need to stop taking the Bible so literally. An eye for an eye and pretty soon the whole society is blind.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    July 18, 2016 8:57 a.m.

    @4601 --

    "The tone and rhetoric of BLM set the stage for this kind of terrorism."

    BLM leaders have very explicitly condemned violence.

    "When BLM supporters say the Dallas murderer is a martyr"

    Where have they done this? Please provide quotes. Be specific.

    "Now the Left including our president must accept blame for the mood that creates anti-police crimes."

    Nope. The egregious deaths of unarmed and/or legally armed black people creates that mood just fine.

    Examples:

    June 22 -- white officer in Atlanta has now been charged with murder for shooting and killing an unarmed black man who was driving away from him. The officer claimed the black driver was trying to run over him, but surveillance video proves that claim to be false. The officer's own sergeant has said that he had no reason to suspect the victim of any crime.

    July 4 -- off-duty white officer in his own private vehicle in NYC cut a black driver off in traffic. Both cars stopped, and the white officer shot and killed the black driver. The officer claimed that the black driver got out and punched him, but surveillance video proves that claim to be false.

  • Tanto Slc, UT
    July 18, 2016 8:45 a.m.

    If the murderer was white the headline would read hate crime.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    July 18, 2016 8:37 a.m.

    How many paragraphs did it take before they named him and his race?
    Twisting and patching the narrative takes a lot of words I suppose.
    At least we know what it looks like when the rule of law has no meaning to our politicians.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 18, 2016 8:31 a.m.

    UtahTroutStalker
    draper, UT

    The tone and rhetoric of BLM set the stage for this kind of terrorism. When BLM supporters say the Dallas murderer is a martyr another outrageous statements, it invites copy cat crimes. The Left blames talk radio and other sources for a hostile atmosphere toward immigrants and others that result in violence. Now the Left including our president must accept blame for the mood that creates anti-police crimes. The street runs both ways.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    July 18, 2016 5:40 a.m.

    Oh, look! Another not-a-Muslim! Another not-an-immigrant! Another not-a-gun-free-zone! But of course, blocking Muslim immigrants and getting rid of gun-free zones is supposed to solve all our terrorist/shooter problems -- right?

    And look! Another guy with an assault rifle! But of course, assault rifles don't cause any problems at all with their ability to kill lots of people very quickly -- right?

  • Scott1 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 18, 2016 1:15 a.m.

    "The races of the suspects and the officers were not immediately known."

    How about not worrying about that. They are members of the human race. There should be a national outcry against the media that likes to mix it up and produce sensational stories. Responsible journalism really isn't practiced very often.

  • UtahTroutStalker draper, UT
    July 18, 2016 12:39 a.m.

    Based on what I read in the comments section and on FB too many people I know want to point the finger at the Black Lives Matter movement. I really have not heard anything from anyone identified as a BLM leader condoning violence against the police. Rather they have asked for greater transparency, better training, and citizen review boards when a police office shoots someone.

    Rather I lay the blame at the press primarily. The have over sensationalized all of this since Ferguson. We know from study after study that this kind of media attention will create more violence. Most credible media/new organizations actually have rules they follow after a teen suicide. Perhaps it is time for similar rules to be put in place around officers being shot, and officers shooting people.

    Transparency and freedom of the press are important, but when we force feed this stuff 24/7 and then tack on all of the comments from the extreme left and right this is what we end up with.

    Frankly we are making the Chinese government with all of their censorship look like they have it right.

  • schokuspokus Orem, Utah
    July 17, 2016 11:43 p.m.

    @Lone Eagle The answer to your question is pretty easy: We are all different and it is a way to describe those differences using the easiest and most obvious identifier.
    All this politically "correct" speech is just what it is: speech. Reality is different.
    Mind you these differences could be good and enriching but there are and always will be ethnic differences.

  • Lone Eagle Aurora, CO
    July 17, 2016 5:41 p.m.

    So why do we have a "black community" or a "white community" or a community with a skin color or ethnic adjective? Isn't that just exacerbating the problem? I thought we were all supposed to be a community, without the adjectives.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    July 17, 2016 4:47 p.m.

    I issue my strongest possible condemnation to the perpetrator(s) of this shooting. Our society must return to embracing law and order, or we will be in utter chaos. As Abraham Lincoln famously stated "Whenever the vicious portion of the population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision stores, throw printing presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure, and with impunity; depend on it, this government cannot last."

  • UtahBlueDevil Lehi Ut & Durham, NC
    July 17, 2016 1:41 p.m.

    A little more example of what the politics of fear and hatred are bringing us to. This is absolutely insane - on both sides. Black Lives needs to measure their rhetoric really carefully. At the same time, conservative talking heads and politicians also need to measure their words very carefully. Painting any group with broad brushes in inherently dangerous... and we should have learned from history how these types of escalations end.

    At the same time we will always have those who have unjustified hatred towards others.... and there just is little legally we can do about it until it erupts into situations like this.

  • schokuspokus Orem, Utah
    July 17, 2016 11:26 a.m.

    I can understand the police down there to be a little edgy dealing with all those criminals. They want to survive the day too and get back to their family.
    I find it strange that there is no outcry from the black community this time.
    It is the normal job of the police to fight crime and they should be doing it in a way that they come out alive.
    It is sad to see if an innocent person is hurt but the whole tensity of the situation has been brought upon us by criminals.
    I would even go so far to suggest if there were no criminals the police would behave totally different too because the would be in any danger to fear for their life.
    My condolences for the widows and other family members left behind from Germany.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    July 17, 2016 10:09 a.m.

    As I write, it sounds like three officers are dead, probably four more wounded.
    Here we go again. The thoughts and prayers, the talking heads, the screaming heads. Too many people will say we need to get tougher on crime and not enough will ask why a man walking down the road with an assault rifle is merely 'suspicious'. Whenever we deal with a problem in this country, be it drugs or terrorism or people who run red lights, we call it a 'war on...'. Is this just another 'war on'? Must we always be at war?
    Trump will tell us how clairvoyant he is in predicting this would happen again. He's not clairvoyant; he'd be remiss in not seeing it coming. Nobody's looking at ratcheting back the dialogue, or at race relations, or jobs, or gun control. Nobody's really looking at root causes or solutions. We're only seeing single parent families, and people who we figure need god beaten into them.