Turning the Orlando tragedy into a political campaign against anyone but the
shooter and his circumstances is unethical political opportunism.
@MGoodwin --Check out these educational articles:"Right-Wing Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamic Terrorists In U.S."
-- NPR 6/24/15"The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat" -- NYT
6/16/15"Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in
U.S. Since 9/11" -- NYT 6/24/15From NYT: "In a survey we
conducted with the Police Executive Research Forum last year of 382 law
enforcement agencies, 74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of
the top three terrorist threats in their jurisdiction; 39 percent listed
extremism connected with Al Qaeda or like-minded terrorist
organizations.""the only ones that have gone above 10 kills
in an incident was Oklahoma City"False.DC Naval Yard
-- 12 killed, 3 injuredNewtown, CT -- 27 killed, 1 injuredAurora, CO
-- 12 killed, 58 injuredBinghamton Civic Association -- 13 killed, 4
injuredVirginia Tech -- 32 killed, 17 injuredColumbine -- 13 killed,
23 injuredShall I continue?"let's look at the
rest of the world"No, sorry. We're talking about US laws
and US shootings, not international law or international shootings. And you
might not want to bring other countries into this, since most European countries
have much lower homicide rates than we do.
Re: I'm so ready for leadership in Washington again.Thank
goodness the re-Publican 2016 nominee will go back to what he does
best...spining never ending conspiracy theories...as whomever becomes the
President Elect moves forward with a serious, sober approach to the most
important job on the planet.
Yet somehow all of those listed incidents, the kill count absolutely paled in
comparison to September 11th alone, that's before you add Orlando, Fort
Hood, San Bernadino and the others to it, by comparison my side is pretty bad at
being able to do much damage, the only ones that have gone above 10 kills in an
incident was Oklahoma City (dude was an anarchist by the way, but whatever) the
others were all above that number. Then just for fun, let's look at the
rest of the world, I'll even exclude the Middle East from the Radical
Islamist Hall of Fame; Moscow Theater attack, the Paris attack, Madrid train
bombings, the attack on the Russian elementary school, the London subway
bombings, the attack in Mumbai, etc. those have all been since the start of the
new millennium, the left is grasping at straws trying to justify this corner
that they have painted itself into, but there's no excuse to ignore the
literal tens of thousands of victims the insane ideology has claimed.
Did you notice that Obama keeps telling us that there is no evidence he had
handlers in the middle east...as though that makes much difference.He said the same about San Bernardino until links began to appear that it
wasn't just Bonnie and Clyde acting alone.This case is
unraveling the same way. Wives...visits to the middle ease...his father linked
to rerrorist groups...FBI files going back years...The more they dig
the more dots that connect.But by the time the picture unfolds all
we get is, "At this point, what difference does it make."I'm so ready for leadership in Washington again.
@MGoodwin --"you've got a much bigger threat than us mean
old conservatives"Yeah, no.Just a few examples:Planned Parenthood shooterCharleston church shooterOklahoma
City bomberOlympic Park bomber and other associated bombings, including a
gay nightclubUnitarian Church shooter in KnoxvilleSikh Temple
shooterOverland Park Jewish Community Center shooterAnd many
others. You know what? They were all home-grown conservatives."Maybe you can adopt the French gun laws, it did a great job keeping those
people slaughtered in Paris safe."The homicide rate in France is
**one-fifth** of the rate here in the US. Their gun laws are working just fine,
Sounds a lot like what I hear some Latter-Day Saints saying as well...You start banning guns to Muslims because of a few nuts, Mormons will
not be far behind...the Bundy's and the Oregon Bird Refuge come
quickly to mind....
And yet other reports say he was a frequent patron to the gay bar, and in one
instance has proposed to another chap, who at the time had not come out, and
declined the proposal. It sounds like he had deep internal conflict between the
faith of his ancestors, and some tendencies he had not come to grips with. To
me it sound like this act was his own way of dealing with this internal
struggle.As far as his being an ISIS operative, he may have had
feelings for ISIS, but I seriously doubt he was under any direction of ISIS.
Just because you claim the Utes or Cougars, that doesn't make you either.
It just makes you a supported.I think this guy just couldn't
reconcile his own personal feelings..... snapped.... and sought to hide those
issues through this act. I could be wrong..... we shall find out someday.
Yeah, that's also ignoring Major Hassan, the Nashville shooter, San
Bernardino, and countless failed attempts by radical islamists, you've got
a much bigger threat than us mean old conservatives with our bibles and guns.
Maybe you can adopt the French gun laws, it did a great job keeping those people
slaughtered in Paris safe.
@Pac 12 Pride;And among the many other attacks in the US between the
two you listed were several done by White Christians. (1) Sandy Hook, (2)
Colorado Movie Theater, (3) Planned Parenthood attack.Why fail to
mention those? Because they aren't Muslim and it doesn't fit into
your anti-Muslim propaganda?
This was the deadliest attack on US soil since 9-11. What do the 2 have in
common?Weapon choice? NoSpecific group targeted? NoDone by Terrorist Muslims? Yep
You want to see what the real cause for the loss of Religion Freedom in America
will be - this is it.NOT -- Gay MarriageNOT -- AbortionNOT -- PornNOT - Smoking, Drinking or GamblingBut it will be
Religious zealots like this one.
Currently we have 323,341,000 people in the United States. Percentages would say
we have more than one nut job who wants to take a gun and mass kill people. Colorado Springs is still dealing with the radicalized conservative
terrorist Robert Deer (On November 27, 2015, a gunman attacked a Planned
Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado. A police officer and two
civilians were killed; five police officers and four civilians were injured.)Unless we come together and stop negative propaganda and change our gun
laws we can expect to see more mass shootings.