@patriot --"why did he do it?explanations from the
left:1.He saw an AR-15 in a magazine and it made him want to kill
people.2.Christians made him do itSo 1+2 == ban all guns and
Christianity then Muslims will like us and we will be safe."Multiple egregious straw men above. Nobody on these boards has said any such
thing."How does living in fear feel?"What fear?
You are the one who feels the need to purchase weapons. If anyone is living in
fear, you ought to be able to tell us how that feels.
TRUTHSalt Lake City, UT"So Many have tried including
Hilary and Obama to link this guy with the NRA and Conservatives . . . Then why
does he represent all Gun owners?"Don't be silly and make
connections where none exist. No one is linking the shooter with the NRA and
conservatives. He does not represent all gun owners. He represents himself,
period. He did as the NRA wants all of us to do, he went out and bought guns.
His use of his guns was not NRA approved. Do you get that?You need
to stop with the ridiculous excuses that are inconsistent with the facts. This
is as bad as Donald Trump suggesting that President Obama somehow has prior
knowledge of these events and approves since he is a secret Muslim. Such talk
gets us nowhere. Perhaps you should change your moniker from TRuTH to
CONSPIRACY.The only relationship the shooter had with all gun owners
is that he owned guns. So stop with the insinuations and get real. Responsible
gun owners don't commit mass shootings. That doesn't mean that all
people should have access to high-powered weapons with high-capacity ammunition
Husker1Northern Utah County, UT"Do you want to see real
hate that makes America look like a kindergarten class?? "That'correct because hate is accepted there as right. But we are talking
about the United States and the levels of hate we find here. This shouldn't
be. We have no control about what happens elsewhere, but we do have control
here. We have too much. It is being sanctioned by forces which should know
better. Hate is used politically to expand the power of a few as we have seen
historically.Whenever there have been periods of unrest, demagogues
have risen from the depths and used hateful speech to reach out to the baser
nature of the people, and those willing to come forth have joined with the
demagogue to assist in his/her rise to power. Father Coughlin, Lester Maddox,
and George Wallace are names that come to mind. Today we have Donald Trump
assisting ISIS in the spread of rhetoric that brings more young people into the
terrorist world by isolating them and exploiting their anger.Hate is
a terrifying emotion that reaches down into the depth of one's soul and
why did he do it?explanations from the left: 1.He saw an AR-15
in a magazine and it made him want to kill people. 2.Christians made him
do itSo 1+2 == ban all guns and Christianity then Muslims will like
us and we will be safe. All sarcasm aside these are actually being
stated by the left and I think some of the zombies actually beleive it!! This is what hope n change REALLY ends up looking like at the end of the
day ...or Obama's term. How does living in fear feel? By the
way my son -in - law owns an AR-15. We went target shooting a month ago-- what a
SWEET gun!!! The AR-15 is the gun of choice for deer and wild pigs in many parts
of the US inclduing Alaska (I lived there for 2 years) and Texas and the rest of
the south. By the way, my wife's 9mm hand gun can do just as much damage as
an AR-15. Both are semi-auto. On the flip side, thank heaven for the semi-auto
and all the Americans it protects!!! Freedom's safest place is the NRA!!
True hate and violence will always exist as long as people rely on different
identities to deal with life's challenges. We need to rely on what makes
us similar and not what differentiates us.
So Many have tried including Hilary and Obama to link this guy with the NRA and
Conservatives........but yet they will not link him to Muslims or
Homosexuals!So for a minute picture the face of Mateen........now
ask yourself:If this guy does not represent ALL Muslims or
Homosexuals.......Then why does he represent all Gun owners?
@Husker1 --"Your "stop the hate" message is 100% on
target. Violence and hatred are so wrong. Do you want to see real hate that
makes America look like a kindergarten class?? Go over to the Middle East and
visit some countries that practice Sharia Law."I agree with you
that there is a lot of work to be done over there. But we don't help that
problem by fear mongering about Muslims here in the US.Remember --
the guy in California and the guy in Orlando DID have something in common -- but
it wasn't Islam.
Interesting theory, but I think that perhaps he was casing the joint and not
necessarily a participant. He knew when the best time to commence his attack
was, early in the morning on one of the busiest days of the year for that
nightclub, there's a lot of preparation that went into this massacre. I
think unless there is some pretty substantial evidence, the motive is probably
going to be ascribing to radical islamist ideals.I wonder what
exactly it is about this particular twisted version of Islam is so attractive to
so many? There aren't any excuses, people at this point should be well
aware of all the horrors ISIS has committed, so why are people still being drawn
@Chris B --"The oppressor once again in this case is within the
LGBT community."No. The oppressor is society at large, which
twists some LGBTs against themselves through its constant messages of
belittlement and hate.Stop the hate!
@contrariusesYour "stop the hate" message is 100% on target.
Violence and hatred are so wrong. Do you want to see real hate that makes
America look like a kindergarten class?? Go over to the Middle East and visit
some countries that practice Sharia Law. Hang out with ISIS for a few weeks.
Your "stop the hate" message wouldn't go over well there. That is
the real enemy and that ideology was the biggest contributor to the Orlando
@Third try screen name --"You forgot Aaron McKinney and Russell
Henderson."There are *many* other names not on that list.
Certainly an interesting development that the terrorist frequented gay bars
including the one he attacked.The oppressor once again in this case
is within the LGBT community. So often those in the LGBT community want to
point their fingers at the pro traditional family crowd when in reality time and
time again, and in this case we have learned, the finger should be pointing at
the mirror by the LGBT community. He was one of their own.
@ContraryYou forgot Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson.
So many times we see that the most virulently homophobic people -- whether in
private life or in public office -- turn out to be gay themselves.
Society's constant messages of hatred and belittlement and othering and
shaming -- telling LGBTs that they are flawed, that they are sinners, that they
are perverts and less equal than everyone else, that they deserve less than
everyone else -- turns some people against themselves in a vicious cycle of
self-hatred.And no, this isn't just some made-up theory. See,
for instance: Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 1996. "Is
homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?"Journal of
Personality and Social Psychology, 2012. "Parental autonomy support and
discrepancies between implicit and explicit sexual identities: Dynamics of
self-acceptance and defense."The list goes on -- and on:Ted HaggardGlenn MurphyGeorge RekersLarry CraigTroy KingRichard CurtisDavid DreierBruce BarclayBob
AllenFather Matthew Makelaetc.When will society finally
figure out that sowing the seeds of hatred only leads to violence and
destruction?Stop the hate!
The Voldemort Mentality in America is lethal.