@RRB"The United states lost 16,353,639 people (both theaters)"That is way way way incorrect. The US lost around 410k people. The
Soviet Union lost the most at 26 million.
the atom bomb attack was caused by Japan's military leaders intransigence.
The war was already lost. Okinawa showed how they would fight to the death in an
invasion of Japan. Our Democratic president was given no other choice.
The US honoring the 140,000 that died in a single flash.... and some are so
partisan that they can't resist trying to turn this into some political
game once again. Amazing......And we are surprised that our
political environment today is so negative.... We have seen the enemy, and the
enemy is us.
@Thid... lets not forget it was a Democrat that led us through world war II....
not a Republican. Second, exactly how many terrorist leaders have Republicans
killed? Now how many have been killed under Obama's leadership. A dose
of reality would not hurt once in a while. It seems hate and logic are
diametrically connected. FYI.... there was no apology, except for the US
military personal that raped and killed a local young lady the week
before....@MGoodwin - not sure your age..... but seems to me as a
kid I watched a nightly news where I saw body counts from Vietnam. Before that,
we had a protracted war on the Korean peninsula. Both of those were proxy wars
between the US and China - both Nuclear powers. I wish the arsenals had been
the deterrent you claim they were. Who knows what might have been though....
The actions and demeanor of a statesman and leader. And as a
veteran, I fully support him recognizing the dead of war at this time - the
bombs did end the war and save lives, but that moment and decision unleashed the
atomic dragon in a horrible way. I can see the shades of gray with no need to
create some black-and-white fantasy worldview that ignores reality. This was a moment to build bonds with an ally, a moment to heal very old
wounds. It was not the time or place to strut and posture and bluster and act
the fool. Bravo, Mr President, and thank you.
History show us that Japan was at war long before Pearl Harbor, wrecking havoc
in China, Korea, ambitious to dominate the world. True lesson is that terrible
men got power and ambitiously used it to bring about the tragic deaths of
millions from many countries. That is what the lesson to be learned is, to not
allow such men this kind of power ever again. Tojo, Hitler, Musolini, Stalin...
these madmen are the story, and how so many were duped into giving obedience to
them, that is where the blame for Hiroshima and Nagasaki lies.
Thank you to those who served in our wars, and a special thank you to the
veterans of World War 2 on this memorial day weekend. This is very bad timing
Our country has sent nukes to other nations.Within the past year, we
have sent seventy to Turkey. These bombs are much more powerful than
the ones used on Japan.So! What is Obama talking about?
The United states lost 16,353,639 people (both theaters), Other countries
fighting Japan, China 12,392,000; Indochina 1,500,000; Korea 500,000; Dutch East
Indies 3,000,000; Malaya and Singapore 100,000; Philippines 500,000; Burma
170,000; Forced laborers in Southeast Asia 70,000, 30,000 interned non-Asian
civilians; Timor 60,000; Thailand and Pacific Islands 60,000. Japan lost 8.5 million.Obama is more off kilter than Trump or Clinton.
And right before Memorial day? What a slap in the face to the armed services.
The president's message of condemning aggression was appropriate. He is a
persuasive speaker when using the teleprompter and he offered no apology for
President Truman's decision to use nuclear weapons. It was and is the
correct decision. Truman could not have endured the political pressure that
would have resulted from the horrendous loss of life during a mainland invasion.
Comparing Hiroshima to Pearl Harbor or any other act of Japan during the war is
a futile exercise.
Did Obama just refer to Japan, that the United States was "evil"?
@ThidI've already shown that your factual claims about Obama
are demonstrably false; why in the world should I accept your speculative
claims. Millions of Trump voters might find such views popular, but that
neither makes them true nor reflects well on the critical thinking of
Trump's base.As for slaps against Americans who love and defend
this country, I don't feel it a slap to acknowledge our mistakes, and I
work for the Department of Defense and was in Iraq.
@Res Novae:This stunt in Japan, the infamous apology tour and his constant
criticism of his own country ("America isn't exceptional") are
perfect examples of why Trump is so popular with millions of Americans! Its a
slap in the face of Americans who love and defend this nation! Obama
couldn't be helping Trump more! What if Obama had been commander in chief
during WWII? Sprechen sie Deutche?
Thid Barker, do you mean what Obama did on December 30th, 2011? You mean that
visit to Pearl Harbor?Oh, you must mean a different Pearl Harbor.
You keep using that word "never". I do not think it means
what you think it means. Not even using all caps can help the truthiness of
@Thid,I'll never understand why people are needlessly
antagonistic or make such outlandish assertions. Growing up in Hawaii, Obama
has been to Pearl Harbor and spoken of the experience. He has also visited the
World Trade Center site multiple times, including at the dedication of the 9/11
Memorial Museum in 2014. As to Obama's actions in Hiroshima,
why is acknowledging human suffering a zero-sum game where to see the pain of
our enemies somehow invalidates the pain of our own side? As someone who finds
the use of atomic weapons justifiable to end the Pacific war, I see no
contradictions between recognizing the tremendous human tragedy it was while at
the same time believing that it was arguably the best option available to Harry
What's sad is that Obama would NEVER go to Pearl Harbor or the twin towers
and "honor the silent cry of bombing victims" in those places! Is his
devotion to liberty fundamentally flawed?
Japanese Emperor Akihito initially planned to visit the Arizona Memorial at
Pearl Harbor in 1994 until his plans ignited virulent opposition from right-wing
Japanese nationalists who insisted that the attack on the U.S. Pacific fleet in
1941 was justified. The Emperor was forced to change his itinerary and instead
visited the National Memorial Cemetery a few miles away from Pearl Harbor where
he laid a wreath.The next leg of the Emperor’s tour was a
16-day tour of the U.S. visiting American cities where he encountered American
protestors demanding an apology for Japanese atrocities during the war.
World War II ended over seventy years ago but it’s important that we
remember the lessons there are to learn from it. The ordeal of total war was a
horror for both sides and the healing is still going on. Thank you, Mr.
President for making this very significant visit.
This visit, on the weekend that we honor our military men and women who died
defending our country is incongruous in timing and message.Sadly,
our President turned this opportunity from a chance to project strength and
determination and to warn aggressors to a meek and naive proposal that emboldens
evil people. He essentially apologized and suggested unilateral disarmament.He should have said that "The U.S. regrets the loss of life at this
location, but it is a powerful warning that unprovoked aggression has dire
consequences, especially when the U.S. is attacked. We will not sacrifice our
citizens to avoid casualties to those who attacked us."Then, he
should have added: "North Korea, Iran and Islamic terror groups, take
particular heed of our determination to punish those who attack us."
@AZRodsMy father too was a WW2 survivor, purple heart recipient, who
suffered the rest of his life from the war. I'm an avid history buff and I
also watch Fox News from time to time but find it's reporting to be one
side, bias and often rude to its guests who contradict or offer differing
opinions. Obviously, I read the DNews so exposure to conservative media is not
some I am lacking.Google international polls of BO and you'll see how
high is standing is in most parts of the world. I admire BO's resolve to
lead and take a position on tough, controversial issues. His visit was long
overdue by a US president. The event happened and we should never forget the
horrors of war. When we do we are reminded of it's horrible and often
unneeded consquences (Iraq War was the worst foreign policy mistake by the US,
Vietnam, Cuba, & Japan.Perhaps Obama could spend more time in
the USA fixing the economy, and medical needs of our Vets.
FT, My father fought in WWII and I have actually studied history to see what
Japan did long before the H bomb was dropped.Ever studied the history of
the Bataan death march?Stop worrying about bashing Fox News since you
obviously don't watch it and try using actual historicalfacts to form
an opinion.Secondly, President Obama is not admired internationally
and certainly not as a world leader.Except perhaps in Kenya.He
has not resolved ANY world issues and our country is certainly not stronger
since he came into office.As a member of the generation that
followed the greatest generation, I have long since seen the need to forgive the
Japanese and move forward with life.Just as we are often caught up
in following our political leaders, they were also, at that time, following
leaders who created a sense of justified war and destruction on millions of
innocent people.Hopefully we are far down that road and have all
seen that mass destruction is not the answer to solving problems.
@TruthfullyPoint of reference. The bombs dropped on Japan were
atomic bombs (1 each of uranium & plutonium) not Hydrogen bombs. H-bombs are
100-150 times more powerful than the Atom bombs. There has never been a Hydrogen
bomb used, by any country, in war. Thank God.
The President once again represents America in a positive light. Contrary to
Faux News and his critics the President is admired internationally and
America's reputation as a world leader has increased since the disasterous
Bush administration. Obama, as he has done numerous times, showed leadership and
resolve by facing tough, challenging issues and made our country stronger in
The nuclear Bombs dropped on Japan were a successful experiments in Psychology,
to end the war quicker and, ironically, with less civilian casualties. The
bombing campaigns in preceding months had done far more destruction to Japans
cities than the H-bombs(entire cities burned to the ground. The Japanese had
declared that they would give guns to the women and children to fight until
every Japanese citizen was dead. The Japanese sense of honor did not allow them
to surrender and live. It was too much of a disgrace. The government of Japan
had lied to their citizens and told them the Americans would torture and kill
everyone if they surrendered. Hundreds of women and children jumped off cliffs
into the ocean on Saipan rather than be taken alive. Those who were captured
were shocked at how well the US soldiers treated them. The H-bombs took
the heart and fight out of the Japanese people, which saved the lives of
many.There were a lot of reprehensible things that happened leading up to,
and during that war, like Japan killing 20,000,000 chinese, and the H-bombs.
You'd think humans would learn.
"If you want peace then prepare for war."The nuclear
stockpiles have done more to ensure peace across the world than any one ivy
leaguer or politician would admit. Before the atomic age, wars were waged
constantly across Europe in particular but also had a bad habit of spreading
outward from there, killing millions of people in the process. Fear of
destruction has managed to maintain a better peace than anything before it for
over 50 years.But let's think about this realistically, how
exactly would we be able to create the "nuclear free world?"
Nonproliferation has been extremely difficult and fraught with some spectacular
failures, and that was just trying to control the ability to produce materials
to build weapons, even backwaters like North Korea managed to pull that off. You
can't stuff the contents of Pandora's box back in once it has been
opened, and while I'd rather be loved than feared I know we as a country
are always going have people that want us dead.