In Hiroshima, Obama honors 'silent cry' of bombing victims

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  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    May 29, 2016 4:44 p.m.

    @RRB
    "The United states lost 16,353,639 people (both theaters)"

    That is way way way incorrect. The US lost around 410k people. The Soviet Union lost the most at 26 million.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    May 28, 2016 9:03 a.m.

    the atom bomb attack was caused by Japan's military leaders intransigence. The war was already lost. Okinawa showed how they would fight to the death in an invasion of Japan. Our Democratic president was given no other choice.

  • UtahBlueDevil Lehi Ut & Durham, NC
    May 28, 2016 9:02 a.m.

    The US honoring the 140,000 that died in a single flash.... and some are so partisan that they can't resist trying to turn this into some political game once again. Amazing......

    And we are surprised that our political environment today is so negative.... We have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us.

  • UtahBlueDevil Lehi Ut & Durham, NC
    May 28, 2016 9:00 a.m.

    @Thid... lets not forget it was a Democrat that led us through world war II.... not a Republican. Second, exactly how many terrorist leaders have Republicans killed? Now how many have been killed under Obama's leadership. A dose of reality would not hurt once in a while. It seems hate and logic are diametrically connected. FYI.... there was no apology, except for the US military personal that raped and killed a local young lady the week before....

    @MGoodwin - not sure your age..... but seems to me as a kid I watched a nightly news where I saw body counts from Vietnam. Before that, we had a protracted war on the Korean peninsula. Both of those were proxy wars between the US and China - both Nuclear powers. I wish the arsenals had been the deterrent you claim they were. Who knows what might have been though....

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    May 28, 2016 4:43 a.m.

    The actions and demeanor of a statesman and leader.

    And as a veteran, I fully support him recognizing the dead of war at this time - the bombs did end the war and save lives, but that moment and decision unleashed the atomic dragon in a horrible way. I can see the shades of gray with no need to create some black-and-white fantasy worldview that ignores reality.

    This was a moment to build bonds with an ally, a moment to heal very old wounds. It was not the time or place to strut and posture and bluster and act the fool.

    Bravo, Mr President, and thank you.

  • EPoint Roy, UT
    May 27, 2016 11:51 p.m.

    History show us that Japan was at war long before Pearl Harbor, wrecking havoc in China, Korea, ambitious to dominate the world. True lesson is that terrible men got power and ambitiously used it to bring about the tragic deaths of millions from many countries. That is what the lesson to be learned is, to not allow such men this kind of power ever again. Tojo, Hitler, Musolini, Stalin... these madmen are the story, and how so many were duped into giving obedience to them, that is where the blame for Hiroshima and Nagasaki lies.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    May 27, 2016 10:48 p.m.

    Thank you to those who served in our wars, and a special thank you to the veterans of World War 2 on this memorial day weekend. This is very bad timing President Obama.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 27, 2016 9:43 p.m.

    Our country has sent nukes to other nations.

    Within the past year, we have sent seventy to Turkey.

    These bombs are much more powerful than the ones used on Japan.

    So! What is Obama talking about?

  • RRB SLC, UT
    May 27, 2016 8:02 p.m.

    The United states lost 16,353,639 people (both theaters), Other countries fighting Japan, China 12,392,000; Indochina 1,500,000; Korea 500,000; Dutch East Indies 3,000,000; Malaya and Singapore 100,000; Philippines 500,000; Burma 170,000; Forced laborers in Southeast Asia 70,000, 30,000 interned non-Asian civilians; Timor 60,000; Thailand and Pacific Islands 60,000.

    Japan lost 8.5 million.
    Obama is more off kilter than Trump or Clinton. And right before Memorial day? What a slap in the face to the armed services.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2016 5:40 p.m.

    The president's message of condemning aggression was appropriate. He is a persuasive speaker when using the teleprompter and he offered no apology for President Truman's decision to use nuclear weapons. It was and is the correct decision. Truman could not have endured the political pressure that would have resulted from the horrendous loss of life during a mainland invasion. Comparing Hiroshima to Pearl Harbor or any other act of Japan during the war is a futile exercise.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 27, 2016 2:55 p.m.

    Did Obama just refer to Japan, that the United States was "evil"?

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    May 27, 2016 1:45 p.m.

    @Thid

    I've already shown that your factual claims about Obama are demonstrably false; why in the world should I accept your speculative claims. Millions of Trump voters might find such views popular, but that neither makes them true nor reflects well on the critical thinking of Trump's base.

    As for slaps against Americans who love and defend this country, I don't feel it a slap to acknowledge our mistakes, and I work for the Department of Defense and was in Iraq.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    May 27, 2016 12:47 p.m.

    @Res Novae:This stunt in Japan, the infamous apology tour and his constant criticism of his own country ("America isn't exceptional") are perfect examples of why Trump is so popular with millions of Americans! Its a slap in the face of Americans who love and defend this nation! Obama couldn't be helping Trump more! What if Obama had been commander in chief during WWII? Sprechen sie Deutche?

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2016 12:36 p.m.

    Thid Barker, do you mean what Obama did on December 30th, 2011? You mean that visit to Pearl Harbor?

    Oh, you must mean a different Pearl Harbor.

    You keep using that word "never". I do not think it means what you think it means. Not even using all caps can help the truthiness of your comment.

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    May 27, 2016 12:23 p.m.

    @Thid,

    I'll never understand why people are needlessly antagonistic or make such outlandish assertions. Growing up in Hawaii, Obama has been to Pearl Harbor and spoken of the experience. He has also visited the World Trade Center site multiple times, including at the dedication of the 9/11 Memorial Museum in 2014.

    As to Obama's actions in Hiroshima, why is acknowledging human suffering a zero-sum game where to see the pain of our enemies somehow invalidates the pain of our own side? As someone who finds the use of atomic weapons justifiable to end the Pacific war, I see no contradictions between recognizing the tremendous human tragedy it was while at the same time believing that it was arguably the best option available to Harry Truman.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    May 27, 2016 11:57 a.m.

    What's sad is that Obama would NEVER go to Pearl Harbor or the twin towers and "honor the silent cry of bombing victims" in those places! Is his devotion to liberty fundamentally flawed?

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    May 27, 2016 11:37 a.m.

    Japanese Emperor Akihito initially planned to visit the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor in 1994 until his plans ignited virulent opposition from right-wing Japanese nationalists who insisted that the attack on the U.S. Pacific fleet in 1941 was justified. The Emperor was forced to change his itinerary and instead visited the National Memorial Cemetery a few miles away from Pearl Harbor where he laid a wreath.

    The next leg of the Emperor’s tour was a 16-day tour of the U.S. visiting American cities where he encountered American protestors demanding an apology for Japanese atrocities during the war.

    World War II ended over seventy years ago but it’s important that we remember the lessons there are to learn from it. The ordeal of total war was a horror for both sides and the healing is still going on. Thank you, Mr. President for making this very significant visit.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 27, 2016 10:52 a.m.

    This visit, on the weekend that we honor our military men and women who died defending our country is incongruous in timing and message.

    Sadly, our President turned this opportunity from a chance to project strength and determination and to warn aggressors to a meek and naive proposal that emboldens evil people. He essentially apologized and suggested unilateral disarmament.

    He should have said that "The U.S. regrets the loss of life at this location, but it is a powerful warning that unprovoked aggression has dire consequences, especially when the U.S. is attacked. We will not sacrifice our citizens to avoid casualties to those who attacked us."

    Then, he should have added: "North Korea, Iran and Islamic terror groups, take particular heed of our determination to punish those who attack us."

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    May 27, 2016 10:48 a.m.

    @AZRods
    My father too was a WW2 survivor, purple heart recipient, who suffered the rest of his life from the war. I'm an avid history buff and I also watch Fox News from time to time but find it's reporting to be one side, bias and often rude to its guests who contradict or offer differing opinions. Obviously, I read the DNews so exposure to conservative media is not some I am lacking.
    Google international polls of BO and you'll see how high is standing is in most parts of the world. I admire BO's resolve to lead and take a position on tough, controversial issues. His visit was long overdue by a US president. The event happened and we should never forget the horrors of war. When we do we are reminded of it's horrible and often unneeded consquences (Iraq War was the worst foreign policy mistake by the US, possibly ever).

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 27, 2016 10:35 a.m.

    Vietnam, Cuba, & Japan.

    Perhaps Obama could spend more time in the USA fixing the economy, and medical needs of our Vets.

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    May 27, 2016 10:18 a.m.

    FT, My father fought in WWII and I have actually studied history to see what Japan did long before the H bomb was dropped.
    Ever studied the history of the Bataan death march?
    Stop worrying about bashing Fox News since you obviously don't watch it and try using actual historical
    facts to form an opinion.

    Secondly, President Obama is not admired internationally and certainly not as a world leader.
    Except perhaps in Kenya.

    He has not resolved ANY world issues and our country is certainly not stronger since he came into office.

    As a member of the generation that followed the greatest generation, I have long since seen the need to forgive the Japanese and move forward with life.

    Just as we are often caught up in following our political leaders, they were also, at that time, following leaders who created a sense of justified war and destruction on millions of innocent people.

    Hopefully we are far down that road and have all seen that mass destruction is not the answer to solving problems.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 27, 2016 10:09 a.m.

    @Truthfully

    Point of reference. The bombs dropped on Japan were atomic bombs (1 each of uranium & plutonium) not Hydrogen bombs. H-bombs are 100-150 times more powerful than the Atom bombs. There has never been a Hydrogen bomb used, by any country, in war. Thank God.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    May 27, 2016 9:42 a.m.

    The President once again represents America in a positive light. Contrary to Faux News and his critics the President is admired internationally and America's reputation as a world leader has increased since the disasterous Bush administration. Obama, as he has done numerous times, showed leadership and resolve by facing tough, challenging issues and made our country stronger in doing so.

  • Truthfully Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 27, 2016 9:32 a.m.

    The nuclear Bombs dropped on Japan were a successful experiments in Psychology, to end the war quicker and, ironically, with less civilian casualties. The bombing campaigns in preceding months had done far more destruction to Japans cities than the H-bombs(entire cities burned to the ground. The Japanese had declared that they would give guns to the women and children to fight until every Japanese citizen was dead. The Japanese sense of honor did not allow them to surrender and live. It was too much of a disgrace. The government of Japan had lied to their citizens and told them the Americans would torture and kill everyone if they surrendered. Hundreds of women and children jumped off cliffs into the ocean on Saipan rather than be taken alive. Those who were captured were shocked at how well the US soldiers treated them.
    The H-bombs took the heart and fight out of the Japanese people, which saved the lives of many.
    There were a lot of reprehensible things that happened leading up to, and during that war, like Japan killing 20,000,000 chinese, and the H-bombs. You'd think humans would learn.

  • MGoodwin Murray/USA, UT
    May 27, 2016 9:09 a.m.

    "If you want peace then prepare for war."

    The nuclear stockpiles have done more to ensure peace across the world than any one ivy leaguer or politician would admit. Before the atomic age, wars were waged constantly across Europe in particular but also had a bad habit of spreading outward from there, killing millions of people in the process. Fear of destruction has managed to maintain a better peace than anything before it for over 50 years.

    But let's think about this realistically, how exactly would we be able to create the "nuclear free world?" Nonproliferation has been extremely difficult and fraught with some spectacular failures, and that was just trying to control the ability to produce materials to build weapons, even backwaters like North Korea managed to pull that off. You can't stuff the contents of Pandora's box back in once it has been opened, and while I'd rather be loved than feared I know we as a country are always going have people that want us dead.