'A world without nuclear weapons' — differing views on Obama Hiroshima trip

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  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2016 12:35 p.m.

    @liberty or...?
    Carpet bombing's not okay either, didn't you see the condemnation of Cruz for suggesting that for al-Raqqa?

    "And your comment about Pearl Harbor a target is correct except it was a dishonourable sneek attack without even a declaration of war."

    Yes, Japan did awful things too, but I'm not sure when two wrongs became a right.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 23, 2016 5:13 p.m.

    For our commander in chief, it's better to arm other countries while limiting the American citizens.

    After Benghazi, and open borders, it's obvious that protecting the American people is not his priority.

  • liberty or ...? Ogden, UT
    May 23, 2016 5:00 p.m.

    @ Frozen fractals..atrocities? excuses? but killing 9 million more people and carpet bombing (Which killed far more people in europe than both atomic bombs combined) every major japanese city instead of just 2 cities (which again did not have to happen) is justifiable to assage an ignorant arm chair quarter backing sense of morality? Wow 9 million more dead apparantly is preferable to 150,00 which was their fault for beginning the war for power and imperialism in the first place. And your comment about Pearl Harbor a target is correct except it was a dishonourable sneek attack without even a declaration of war. Their embassy was still lying to our face in feigned friendship while their navy was already enroute to attack.Justification? or is it consequances of bad choices?

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    May 23, 2016 2:15 p.m.

    @liberty or...?
    It's really disgusting what sorts of atrocities people justify if its' their own side doing them. Japan did a lot of horrible things in WWII, but that doesn't excuse nuking two cities or the internment, nor does nuking two cities excuse any of the horrible things Japan did.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    May 23, 2016 1:44 p.m.

    @liberty or...?
    "Forget Hiroshima did not have to happen and that it was not a civilian target but a naval port and a legitimate target according to warfare of the time."

    You know what else was a naval port? Pearl Harbor. Something you condemned the attack of a few points higher. You're also basically arguing that countries that find themselves in armed conflict with the US should just nuke us because invading us would be a messy affair with a lot of casualties.

  • liberty or ...? Ogden, UT
    May 23, 2016 12:19 p.m.

    @ geeku & Primus... I hope this is just an oversite or you didn't know, and not revisionist history in that President Obama did try to apologize to the Prime minister of Japan for the atomic bombs. The Prime minister of Japan stopped him. I also beg you guys to remember that the marxist poets Obama supported were cheering for the soviet Union when Reagan told Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin wall and condemened his arms race to bankrupt the USSR and force the Soviets to start scaling back. Thats one reason why democrats try and point to Reagan raising taxes during his 2nd term was the fact he was trying to out innovate and produce Russia into the ground because he new marxist policies wouldn't be able to keep up. Not to mention the democrats were also supposed to scale back regulation which they failed to do just like they failed to secure the border as their part of the deal for Reagans amnesty compromise

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 23, 2016 11:27 a.m.

    Congratulations to Mr. Obama for continuing Reagan's efforts for a nuclear weapon free world. It is may be impossible to put Pandora back into the box, but emphasizing the devastation of nuclear weapons is a start. The atomic bomb was the product of WWII, not the opposite and we should work to eliminate wars. Unfortunately, terrorists do not respond to the same message.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 23, 2016 11:22 a.m.

    Unfortunately in life the best of the available decisions is still a really bad decision. Make no mistake, that is what it was.

  • geekusprimus Little Elm, TX
    May 23, 2016 10:49 a.m.

    For once, I actually agree with President Obama. Apologizing is the wrong thing to do. There is nothing to apologize for. We were at war, and we needed the war to end for both sides' sake. The atomic bombs saved millions of lives that would have been lost in traditional warfare. Was there a better solution? Maybe, maybe not. I would say that if any apology was necessary, it was given right after the war when the American military helped Japan in their rebuilding efforts. Japan is now one of the most powerful and technologically advanced nations in the world. I would say that they've done okay in spite of things.

  • liberty or ...? Ogden, UT
    May 23, 2016 10:00 a.m.

    I wonder how many of these apologists would be willing to give up their own existance when they realize that there was a good chance if we had to invade japan like Europe that 1 miillion plus american casualties and roughly 3-7 million estimate japanese civillians and military means their grandparents and great grandparents had a real high chance of being killed and because they didn't have families how many of them would never have existed?also if we had ended the war w/out a full surrender of Japans government that they would in fact be supporting the existance of a entrenched fascist/ imperial goverment. but hey 2 atomic bombs which ended a war with far less csaualtie compared to 14-16 million killed because of imperialism and fascism hey we should feel so bad huh?

  • liberty or ...? Ogden, UT
    May 23, 2016 9:41 a.m.

    And the leftist apologists pave the road for groveling and apology on something the imperialists they supported fostered.As soon as the last WWII verteran is dead they will mount a campaign of apologist garbage and excuse the atrocities of Imperial Japan. Forget the following.
    1.They planned the fist sneak attack on Pearl harbor the entire time they where still feigning frienship with us.
    2. Forget the Batan Death march, forget the genocidal campaigns against the chinese, Forget the war crimes against POW's and US civilians in the Phillipines. Forget the scorched earth policy of the Japanese soldiers who slaughter the population of Manilla when they retreated.
    3. Forget after Okinawa they were asked to surreneder but they wanted to pull a Germany WWI and preserve thir power w/out saying they lost. Forget Hiroshima did not have to happen and that it was not a civilian target but a naval port and a legitimate target according to warfare of the time.
    4. Forget that they were asked again to surrender after hiroshima and called are bluff betting we didn't have a second.
    5.Forget operation downfall and the millions who would die from a forced invasion

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    May 23, 2016 9:31 a.m.

    First, according to Obama he is NOT going to apologize for the bombing of Hiroshima.

    His task is to make sure our allies and the world understand that in our age war can lead to real catastrophe for everyone, but that we are ready to do what it takes to prevent that catastrophe.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    May 23, 2016 9:03 a.m.

    "too bad our country didn't bury the nuke technology a long time ago"
    It took scientists with 1940's technology 3 years to develop nuclear technology. Even if they had "buried it", someone else would have discovered it. Humans are clever that way.

    Unless you believe that such knowledge was a gift from aliens, then yes - we should have told the little green men "no, thanks".

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    May 23, 2016 8:54 a.m.

    Japanese government is the only government that needs to apologize. It killed/butchered millions of people throughout the war. Japan killed more Chinese and committed more atrocities then the Germans in Europe.

    The Japanese Government was dedicated to not surrendering, even if the war destroyed the country. Even after the Russians joined in attacking Japan, and the two atomic bombs, it came close to not surrendering. The psychological impacts of the above events were barely enough to convince the Japanese government to surrender, and stop the near coup before the Emperor's surrender announcement.

    Considering the total loss of life in Iwo Jima, and Okinawa, the above events actually saved Japanese lives, but most importantly probably saved my Grandfather's life that had personally viewed the German atrocities in Europe.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    May 23, 2016 8:49 a.m.

    Job well done President Obama.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 23, 2016 8:37 a.m.

    Too bad our country didn't bury the nuke technology a long time ago, and no one would be able to make one.

    Unfortunately we have sent hundreds of nukes to other countries, and given out nuclear technology with the idea it would be used to generate electricity.