AP source: Woman in shooting pledged allegiance to IS

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  • AuContrarius mid-state, TN
    Dec. 5, 2015 7:45 a.m.

    @patriot --

    "wait I thought the left wing media had already proclaimed this a just a simple argument at work? You mean to tell me..."

    Wait -- I thought the right wing commentators had already proclaimed that Dear was just a simple wacko? You mean to tell me that just because this good Christian man who bragged about his devotion was carrying around propane cannisters and had a pile of guns and ammo and distributed anti-Obama literature and had attacked another Planned Parenthood clinic previously... that makes this a terrorist attack?

    So what's the common denominator here? Extreme political views, extreme religious views, and guns. Hmmmm.

    "Right-Wing Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamic Terrorists In U.S." -- NPR 6/24/15

    "The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat" -- NYT 6/16/15

    "Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11" -- NYT 6/24/15

    "Why No One is Researching Gun Violence Prevention" -- The Daily Beast 12/4/15

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Dec. 5, 2015 2:53 a.m.

    " . . . to date that the rampage may have been an extremist attack."

    Really? I have been thinking all along that it was a couple of moderates who walked into their armed to the teeth and started shooting people.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 5:55 p.m.

    There is an assumption that women and moms are always trustworthy. That is certainly not the case. There are many women lured to ISIS. Extremist fighters see woman as a way to grow the next generation of ISIS. They want women to have children with their fighters as a way to grow their ranks. There are also many women in the U.S. and all over the world who torture and or kill their own children, women that can kill like men and sleep just fine at night. It easy to make assumptions about gender, race, and religion that may not be true. The real truth is that it is difficult to know who you can trust these days regardless of their religious affiliation, activity, or their sex.

  • beautifulutah SLC, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 4:42 p.m.

    Where was the NSA on this one? Seems this couple could have raised red flags with their posts and then their obscene gun purchases would have raised a red (preventive) flag.

  • my_two_cents_worth university place, WA
    Dec. 4, 2015 2:46 p.m.

    @Say No to BO

    "Commander-in-Chief "

    Did you read that in the Constitution? The same constitution that states, "The Congress shall have Power To... make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces"?

    Try again.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    Dec. 4, 2015 1:38 p.m.

    The woman pledged allegiance to ISIS.

    That definitely means this was workplace violence.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 1:24 p.m.

    2 cents
    It's still Obama. Sell your narrative to someone who is gullible.
    Commander-in-Chief still means something, even in Obama's Amerika.

  • my_two_cents_worth university place, WA
    Dec. 4, 2015 1:07 p.m.

    @Say No to BO

    "It took until February of 2015 for Obama to allow Purple Hearts."

    It's not the President's decision to make; that decision rests with the Congress, the Secretary of Defense and/or the separate Service Secretaries. Secretary of the Army John McHugh, and only the Secretary of the Army, authorized awarding the Purple Heart after congress changed the criteria in public law. So, next time you want to blame President Obama for all that ails the world, make sure he is deserving of the blame.

  • Monte LEHI, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 12:36 p.m.

    Okay Mr. President - enough of you and your Attorney General's Hillary Benghazi type blather about this being a case of work place violence. The FBI is now calling it an act of terrorism. Mr. President - you have no credibility continuing to downplay, soft-soak and blame terrorism on the lack of gun control and climate change. Our bush league president just lost one to the ISIS JV team!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 12:33 p.m.

    Guys, let's be patient here.
    Ft Hood happened in November of 2009.
    It took until February of 2015 for Obama to allow Purple Hearts.
    War benefits are still in dispute, but I think they'll eventually be forthcoming.
    On that timetable we've only got 5 1/2 more years before Obama admits the obvious.
    BO is a pathetic excuse for a leader!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 12:12 p.m.

    @fani "Unfortunately Barack and the dems still think it's work place violence regardless of overwhelming evidence from day 1 it was terrorist attack."

    Well terrorism is terrorism no matter who does it.

    But I don't deny we need to access how much danger we are in. It's hard to know. It's useful to see how we got here however. The Iraq invasion the with its massive Muslim casualties convinced much of the Islamic world the great Christian - Muslim war had been joined once more. George W Bush even used the term "Crusade" to describe what we were doing in that part of the world.

    Extremists on both sides think this is the end time, culminating in a great final giant war. But the two sides see the victors differently of course.

    What is to be done? It's awfully late in the day to change course. Certainly we must protect ourselves. But will become a complete police state? With Trump as president, could be.

    I know I will be hooted down by most here, but we would be advised to abandon the region, letting Russia deal with mess.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 12:11 p.m.

    @Vanceone
    "Amazing how when it comes to Islamic terrorism, we are told to not judge everyone; to not overreact, etc. But boy, all gun owners are evil bigots who must be monitored! Right leftists?"

    Our current system requires background checks on gun purchases from dealers. Does that count as considering gun owners evil bigots who must be monitored? Because if not then it shouldn't be a problem expanding background checks to apply to all gun purchases.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 11:42 a.m.

    The world needs a leader. And all we got is obummer. How pathetic is that. What does that say about the people that elect and support these politicians? Does it indicate anything?

    I was terrified the other day, I walked by a group of men with assault rifles, then another group with hunting rifles, and another with handguns....that isn't what terrified me. It was the SUV that was idling in the parking lot keeping little kids warm and safe. It was scary to think of climate change and the world is going to end, if I don't adhere to what the left doesn't live themselves.

  • Hey It's Me Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 11:38 a.m.

    Wake Up America! Take off the rose colored glasses! Let's see he was not on radar as a possible terrorist and neither were the shooters in France. So much for our intellegence. However, you will never know if they should be on radar because they are willing to be terrorists who don't have to kill with large groups helping them. It just takes a room full of people and you're gone!

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 11:38 a.m.

    How is this possible? The left has told us over and over that ISIS is not in America, has no interest in America, we shouldn't worry about them or Islamic terrorism; and the real enemies of America is a little old grandma reading the Bible to her grandkids while heating her house with a wood stove. ISIS is contained, Obama said.

    Amazing how when it comes to Islamic terrorism, we are told to not judge everyone; to not overreact, etc. But boy, all gun owners are evil bigots who must be monitored! Right leftists?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 11:26 a.m.

    re:shabam

    "racism and bullying has created the mass shooting rise in society"

    Perhaps you could elaborate on this comment for the rest of us. I assume you are suggesting that the 911 attack on America was our fault and so was the attack on the USS Cole and so was all the other terror attacks in America. Yes it is America's fault for removing Saddam Hussin from Kuwait --- after all we should have just allowed him to take the oil and kill all the Kuwait people right? It is Americas fault for not allowing mass murder to take place in the middle east as these 7th century Islamic heathen war lords rampage and cut of the heads of children and burn woman and then steal the oil. Yes America is the bully. Always the bully. I suspect in your mind America was the bully in WWII and we should have allowed Hitler and Japan to burn the world to the ground. Yes America is the bully. I think you might be happier in ..oh say Saudi Arabia where your wife can really enjoy being a woman. Correct? You will learn there what 'bully' really means.

  • fani wj, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 11:12 a.m.

    "Woman in shooting pledged allegiance to IS" Unfortunately Barack and the dems still think it's work place violence regardless of overwhelming evidence from day 1 it was terrorist attack

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 11:12 a.m.

    wait I thought the left wing media had already proclaimed this a just a simple argument at work? You mean to tell me just because these good Muslim folks were making bombs in their garage and had over 1600 rounds of .223 ammo and video cams and body ammor and ISIS literature and $30000 money trial back to ISIS for buying all the JIHAD stuff ....that makes this a terrorist attack? Nah -- we aren't at war with Islamic extremists and in fact there is no such thing as Islamic extremists --- just extremists -- just ask Hillary and Barack. Yes this was just a simple case of digruntled workers --- nothing to see here folks. So nice to know we are protected under the watchful eye of our far left friends doesn't it.

    Now to something that is a national security threat lets talk about when the earth is going to boil over due to global warming!! Oh my gosh we need to act now or America is finished!!

    feels alot like the Twlight Zone around here anymore where nothing is quite what it seems. Good is evil -- evil is good -- and ISIS is contained.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 11:02 a.m.

    @shabam

    what?

    I guess you can add to your list climate change, ATM's and high wages for reasons people decide to become an extremists and murder innocent people.

    Racism and bullying has not created mass shootings. Neither has owning a gun, been a force that makes people decide to become a murderer.

    I would like to see what data your using and the methods you used to reach your conclusion.

    War doesn't create anti foreigner sentiment. You can't be forced to change your feelings. That is something each person decides on their own, how they internalize events and interpret what is occurring.

    It's amazing how the nut cases over there justify their hatred, their caliphate and blame others for their own decisions.

    The worse thing this nation has done is voting Obama in twice.

  • 483bzac West Valley City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 10:56 a.m.

    At some point, U.S. Muslims as a whole need to now show that they are not complicit in any way with these acts of terrorism by consistently dishonoring individuals responsible for terrorism. Two in their own congregation in the States are responsible for this act.

  • duggity Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 10:35 a.m.

    Elcapitan. Isn't that the 53rd state he said he visited during the elections?

  • shabam Ogden, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 10:29 a.m.

    We have a lot to appreciate in America... racism and bullying has created the mass shooting rise in society as an answer to the anti foreigner sentiment created by the wars, the attitudes. It has even spilled over onto Americans turning on another in schools and workplace.
    The war has its effect on society as a whole. We must take a closer hard look at the effects of how we see ourselves as a society as a whole functioning family.
    Terrorist are not bound by color of their skin, nor mass shooters .

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Dec. 4, 2015 10:27 a.m.

    Will someone send a message to President Obama who is in a state of denial.