@patriot --"wait I thought the left wing media had already
proclaimed this a just a simple argument at work? You mean to tell me..."Wait -- I thought the right wing commentators had already proclaimed
that Dear was just a simple wacko? You mean to tell me that just because this
good Christian man who bragged about his devotion was carrying around propane
cannisters and had a pile of guns and ammo and distributed anti-Obama literature
and had attacked another Planned Parenthood clinic previously... that makes this
a terrorist attack?So what's the common denominator here?
Extreme political views, extreme religious views, and guns. Hmmmm."Right-Wing Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamic Terrorists In U.S."
-- NPR 6/24/15"The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat" -- NYT
6/16/15"Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than
Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11" -- NYT 6/24/15"Why No One is
Researching Gun Violence Prevention" -- The Daily Beast 12/4/15
" . . . to date that the rampage may have been an extremist attack."Really? I have been thinking all along that it was a couple of
moderates who walked into their armed to the teeth and started shooting people.
There is an assumption that women and moms are always trustworthy. That is
certainly not the case. There are many women lured to ISIS. Extremist fighters
see woman as a way to grow the next generation of ISIS. They want women to have
children with their fighters as a way to grow their ranks. There are also many
women in the U.S. and all over the world who torture and or kill their own
children, women that can kill like men and sleep just fine at night. It easy to
make assumptions about gender, race, and religion that may not be true. The real
truth is that it is difficult to know who you can trust these days regardless of
their religious affiliation, activity, or their sex.
Where was the NSA on this one? Seems this couple could have raised red flags
with their posts and then their obscene gun purchases would have raised a red
@Say No to BO"Commander-in-Chief "Did you read
that in the Constitution? The same constitution that states, "The Congress
shall have Power To... make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land
and naval Forces"?Try again.
The woman pledged allegiance to ISIS.That definitely means this was
2 centsIt's still Obama. Sell your narrative to someone who is
gullible.Commander-in-Chief still means something, even in Obama's
@Say No to BO"It took until February of 2015 for Obama to allow
Purple Hearts."It's not the President's decision to
make; that decision rests with the Congress, the Secretary of Defense and/or the
separate Service Secretaries. Secretary of the Army John McHugh, and only the
Secretary of the Army, authorized awarding the Purple Heart after congress
changed the criteria in public law. So, next time you want to blame President
Obama for all that ails the world, make sure he is deserving of the blame.
Okay Mr. President - enough of you and your Attorney General's Hillary
Benghazi type blather about this being a case of work place violence. The FBI
is now calling it an act of terrorism. Mr. President - you have no credibility
continuing to downplay, soft-soak and blame terrorism on the lack of gun control
and climate change. Our bush league president just lost one to the ISIS JV
Guys, let's be patient here.Ft Hood happened in November of 2009.It took until February of 2015 for Obama to allow Purple Hearts.War
benefits are still in dispute, but I think they'll eventually be
forthcoming.On that timetable we've only got 5 1/2 more years before
Obama admits the obvious.BO is a pathetic excuse for a leader!
@fani "Unfortunately Barack and the dems still think it's work place
violence regardless of overwhelming evidence from day 1 it was terrorist
attack."Well terrorism is terrorism no matter who does it. But I don't deny we need to access how much danger we are in.
It's hard to know. It's useful to see how we got here however. The
Iraq invasion the with its massive Muslim casualties convinced much of the
Islamic world the great Christian - Muslim war had been joined once more.
George W Bush even used the term "Crusade" to describe what we were
doing in that part of the world. Extremists on both sides think
this is the end time, culminating in a great final giant war. But the two sides
see the victors differently of course.What is to be done? It's
awfully late in the day to change course. Certainly we must protect ourselves.
But will become a complete police state? With Trump as president, could be.
I know I will be hooted down by most here, but we would be advised
to abandon the region, letting Russia deal with mess.
@Vanceone"Amazing how when it comes to Islamic terrorism, we are told
to not judge everyone; to not overreact, etc. But boy, all gun owners are evil
bigots who must be monitored! Right leftists?"Our current system
requires background checks on gun purchases from dealers. Does that count as
considering gun owners evil bigots who must be monitored? Because if not then it
shouldn't be a problem expanding background checks to apply to all gun
The world needs a leader. And all we got is obummer. How pathetic is that.
What does that say about the people that elect and support these politicians?
Does it indicate anything?I was terrified the other day, I walked by
a group of men with assault rifles, then another group with hunting rifles, and
another with handguns....that isn't what terrified me. It was the SUV that
was idling in the parking lot keeping little kids warm and safe. It was scary
to think of climate change and the world is going to end, if I don't adhere
to what the left doesn't live themselves.
Wake Up America! Take off the rose colored glasses! Let's see he was not on
radar as a possible terrorist and neither were the shooters in France. So much
for our intellegence. However, you will never know if they should be on radar
because they are willing to be terrorists who don't have to kill with large
groups helping them. It just takes a room full of people and you're gone!
How is this possible? The left has told us over and over that ISIS is not in
America, has no interest in America, we shouldn't worry about them or
Islamic terrorism; and the real enemies of America is a little old grandma
reading the Bible to her grandkids while heating her house with a wood stove.
ISIS is contained, Obama said. Amazing how when it comes to Islamic
terrorism, we are told to not judge everyone; to not overreact, etc. But boy,
all gun owners are evil bigots who must be monitored! Right leftists?
re:shabam"racism and bullying has created the mass shooting rise
in society"Perhaps you could elaborate on this comment for the
rest of us. I assume you are suggesting that the 911 attack on America was our
fault and so was the attack on the USS Cole and so was all the other terror
attacks in America. Yes it is America's fault for removing Saddam Hussin
from Kuwait --- after all we should have just allowed him to take the oil and
kill all the Kuwait people right? It is Americas fault for not allowing mass
murder to take place in the middle east as these 7th century Islamic heathen war
lords rampage and cut of the heads of children and burn woman and then steal the
oil. Yes America is the bully. Always the bully. I suspect in your mind America
was the bully in WWII and we should have allowed Hitler and Japan to burn the
world to the ground. Yes America is the bully. I think you might be happier in
..oh say Saudi Arabia where your wife can really enjoy being a woman. Correct?
You will learn there what 'bully' really means.
"Woman in shooting pledged allegiance to IS" Unfortunately Barack and
the dems still think it's work place violence regardless of overwhelming
evidence from day 1 it was terrorist attack
wait I thought the left wing media had already proclaimed this a just a simple
argument at work? You mean to tell me just because these good Muslim folks were
making bombs in their garage and had over 1600 rounds of .223 ammo and video
cams and body ammor and ISIS literature and $30000 money trial back to ISIS for
buying all the JIHAD stuff ....that makes this a terrorist attack? Nah -- we
aren't at war with Islamic extremists and in fact there is no such thing as
Islamic extremists --- just extremists -- just ask Hillary and Barack. Yes this
was just a simple case of digruntled workers --- nothing to see here folks. So
nice to know we are protected under the watchful eye of our far left friends
doesn't it. Now to something that is a national security threat
lets talk about when the earth is going to boil over due to global warming!! Oh
my gosh we need to act now or America is finished!! feels alot like
the Twlight Zone around here anymore where nothing is quite what it seems. Good
is evil -- evil is good -- and ISIS is contained.
@shabamwhat?I guess you can add to your list climate
change, ATM's and high wages for reasons people decide to become an
extremists and murder innocent people.Racism and bullying has not
created mass shootings. Neither has owning a gun, been a force that makes
people decide to become a murderer.I would like to see what data
your using and the methods you used to reach your conclusion.War
doesn't create anti foreigner sentiment. You can't be forced to
change your feelings. That is something each person decides on their own, how
they internalize events and interpret what is occurring.It's
amazing how the nut cases over there justify their hatred, their caliphate and
blame others for their own decisions.The worse thing this nation has
done is voting Obama in twice.
At some point, U.S. Muslims as a whole need to now show that they are not
complicit in any way with these acts of terrorism by consistently dishonoring
individuals responsible for terrorism. Two in their own congregation in the
States are responsible for this act.
Elcapitan. Isn't that the 53rd state he said he visited during the
We have a lot to appreciate in America... racism and bullying has created the
mass shooting rise in society as an answer to the anti foreigner sentiment
created by the wars, the attitudes. It has even spilled over onto Americans
turning on another in schools and workplace.The war has its effect on
society as a whole. We must take a closer hard look at the effects of how we
see ourselves as a society as a whole functioning family.Terrorist are not
bound by color of their skin, nor mass shooters .
Will someone send a message to President Obama who is in a state of denial.