5 arguments Republicans are using to try and defeat Hillary Clinton in 2016

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  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    April 20, 2015 6:02 p.m.

    Lot of obsessed people. Voting is one day next year.

  • O'really Idaho Falls, ID
    April 18, 2015 1:13 p.m.

    Doesn't matter her sordid past or her ineptness. All she has to do is offer goodies to illegal immigrants and welfare recipients and she's got it in the bag. Just like the guy before her did. Sickening!

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    April 18, 2015 8:16 a.m.

    I'm not a "Hillary fan." I hope Jim Webb (the only true and real conservative in the race from either party) is nominated as the Democratic candidate -- he's the only one I could really support.

    That being said, Ms. Clinton is a lot less worse for the USA and its people than any of the Republican candidates, announced or unannounced, for the Republican nomination. I don't want any of them (including Ms. Clinton), but she is by far the lesser evil. It looks like I'll be writing in my border collie, who is far more qualified than any of the named candidates (except Webb) in this race this time around.

    It sure would be nice to b able to vote FOR someone . . .

  • Marigold Provo, UT
    April 17, 2015 6:55 p.m.

    I think debate and discussion of ideas is good. I'm happy to see Republicans fielding a variety of candidates. Republicans are not on the "wrong side of society at the moment." Rather, they offer fresh ideas and candidates. They probably don't wear sunglasses while ordering food in an establishment while trying to connect with "regular Americans" nor will a Republican candidate park in a handicapped parking spot... Republicans generally pump their own gas and drive their own cars. The Republican Party offers a line-up of candidates of both genders. Not a single Republican candidate voted for the Iraq War. Most of the Republican candidates for president have actually come up through the ranks and have had their bills passed. They have had experience in the workplace. Had they been Secretary of State, a Republican would have picked up the phone and not made up a phony story while the U.S. Ambassador was being murdered. BTW, there's more to Benghazi than meets the eye...

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    April 17, 2015 5:05 p.m.

    I'm ready for a legitimate third party - someone to truly represent the middle class. Republicans represent the rich and business, and the Democrats represent the poor. I want someone to represent me.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    April 17, 2015 2:12 p.m.

    The really odd thing about liberal Obama and Hillary voters are that they tend to be the younger people, and older voters tend to vote conservative.

    That's odd in that the younger voters are going to be the ones who eventually wind up paying all the bills that the liberals rack up. The way things are going, younger voters won't even have social security available to them. Nevermind that they will be stuck with paying off 20trillion in debt (and counting).

    Older voters really should be voting liberal, so they can get more "free stuff" before they pass away since the democratic party seems to be the party to belong to if one is inclined to load up on free goodies.

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    April 17, 2015 2:03 p.m.

    I'm confused?

    So the Republican platform is to go negative?

    Why won't the generate and produce better ideas than Mrs. Clinton and win my vote with a legitimate better option?

    I'm looking forward to the day when the "Bob Rumson" tactics end. Until then we'll all be forced to choose between the lesser of two evils.

    And to all you 'haters' out there... Thanks a lot! It's because of your ignorance candidates get away with and win negative campaigns. You're their target audience.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    April 17, 2015 1:44 p.m.

    LOU Montana: "Republicans fear she will take this country back from corporate America."

    Why on Earth would you think that she even try to do that?

    Hillary Clinton is in bed with Wall Street and Corporate America more than any Republican has ever been. She takes big money donations from them (and foreign governments) and has fought FOR them much more than she has fought against them. Who do you think is paying her $300K for giving a speech and giving her huge book advances?

    You have nothing but your caricature of the Republican party. Your comment has no basis in fact.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    April 17, 2015 1:30 p.m.

    Very stupid arguments!

    Republicans fear she will take this country back from corporate America.

  • dobberdobber Ivins, UT
    April 17, 2015 1:20 p.m.

    There is not an ideal candidate out there and will never be. Money and mudslinging keep them away. That said, Hillary is better than any Republican I have seen that has interest in running. I left the Republicans when I realized they are only concerned about the Party and not the Nation. I had hopes for Huntsman until he allied himself with Lee and then he lost all my respect. None of it will matter in the end as we are now being run by the money interests. You can buy anything with money. Slavery in not dead, just changed. Our elected officials are slaves to their donors.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    April 17, 2015 1:14 p.m.

    girl.in.slc: "...there really isn't an argument over her ability to govern- she's proven more than capable."

    I wonder what Ambassador Stevens (if he were still alive) and the other 3 killed in Libya would have to say about that statement?

    If by "ability to govern", you mean that she would fit right in with the big government establishment, lobbyists, and special interest groups; then you might be right.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    April 17, 2015 12:39 p.m.

    Please provide one meaningful reason why she SHOULD be elected, based on experience, qualification, and what she intends to improve this nation (and not further the fundmentally destroy America road we're currently on).

  • Spangs Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2015 12:19 p.m.

    For conservatives, the hope is that we can say she represents "Obama's failed policies and lawlessness." Unfortunately for them, this is a contrived-in-the-bubble notion. In fact, Obama has been a wildly successful president. He passed ObamaCare, killed Bin Laden, brought the economy back to life (after it was ruined by a republican), reestablished relations with Cuba, watched over mainstreaming gay rights, and negotiated a preliminary deal with Iran.

    And the "lawlessness" charge is just a frustrated conservative base lashing out in displeasure at his response to the parliamentary games republicans decided to play beginning in 2008.

    There is only a small (yet vocal) group of old white people who think this a "failed presidency." Keep on thinking that! The rest of us will elect a democrat in 2016.

  • Dragline Orem, UT
    April 17, 2015 11:59 a.m.

    Hillary is Teflon--none of these accusations from the GOP are gonna stick. They threw all these arguments at her for years and they now have no meaning. Gonna bring up Whitewater? How about Vince Foster? How about that staying home and baking cookies statement? Yeah, you're just boring us...again.

    In contrast, the five or six dwarfs running for the GOP nomination will have their own problems and I'm sure we will dredge up the past for them. Really, you think Ted Cruze, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, and Marco Rubio are going to beat her even with Sheldon Adelson's and the Koch bros money? Do you think Jeb Bush is going to get past his brother's legacy as the worst president in modern times?

    The demographic has changed even more from 2012 and the GOP can only win seats in Congress in off-presidential elections, for now. We will not see a GOP president until they embrace the needs of the majority of Americans, not just the 1 percent.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2015 11:36 a.m.

    Its too bad demo's. don't try to come up with someone/anyone who is NOT Hillary.

    Hillary means 4 more yrs. of Obama's failed policies and lawlessness.

    NO DOUBT the lamestream media will try their darndest to get Mrs. Bill elected; the question is WILL they be enough for her to be able to take her ASSUMED coronation?

    10 yrs. ago I would have said that her besties in the media could put her "over the top" - today I'm not so sure due to social media outlets that provide an alternative news source.

  • lonepeakstudent Alpine, UT
    April 17, 2015 11:32 a.m.

    I'm going to get real tired of the Republicans yelling about Benghazi over and over again. The GOP is going to self-destruct this next election cycle. They don't have a prayer of winning the Presidential election.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    April 17, 2015 10:58 a.m.

    Never been a big Hillary fan, but I'd vote for her in a heartbeat over any Republican who supports that trainwreck of a party (to use their own tired metaphor) and its totally vacant house of ideas.

  • Mick Murray, Utah
    April 17, 2015 10:38 a.m.

    Girl.in.slc

    Name her accomplishments. Besides getting elected to the senate on her husbands coattail. What has she done? Specifically,

  • jahenders Colorado Springs, CO
    April 17, 2015 10:28 a.m.

    All of the arguments in the article are correct. However, it's unclear whether that will be enough to keep Hillary from becoming president. She has a vast fund-raising machine (regardless of the country of origin), lots of backing in Hollywood and in the media, some super-wealthy backers, awill be continually given the benefit of the doubt in the press, and will try (with some success) that she (like Obama) would be "something new" in the White House.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 17, 2015 9:52 a.m.

    There she goes again!

    * Just misspoke of her grandparents migrating to America.
    * Was against illegals getting a drivers license, and now supports it.
    * Flipped her views on gay marriage.

    Can't trust the words coming out of mouth

  • RC in WJ WEST JORDAN, UT
    April 17, 2015 9:47 a.m.

    FanOfTheSith, girl.in.slc., Brave Sir Robin, and Hutterite all make sane and sound reasons why Hillary will become the next POTUS!

    Nothing has changed since 2012 with respect to the elctorate that should encourage the Repubs. In fact is has worsened for them. There are more minorities with the projection of and increase of 3-4% more minority voters this election. There are more young voters this election. Demogrphics, demographics, demographics and the electoral college will doom the Pubs. All the sound bite Benghaaaaazi jaw flapping will be for naught. What is fact is fact. Its the math! it will be Scoreboard Hillary!

  • girl.in.slc Salt Lake , UT
    April 17, 2015 9:45 a.m.

    Hutterite- Re Benghazi,

    After five congressional hearings and one state department investigation, they concluded there was no conspiracy. It's the only thing Republicans have, so they'll continue to use it as a political talking point.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 17, 2015 9:17 a.m.

    I'm not going to type 'Benghazi' five times. But that's about it.
    Nobody is going to change anyone's mind. This entire exercise is just about completely in the bag already.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 17, 2015 9:11 a.m.

    Republicans can argue all they want about why Hillary shouldn't be president, but at the end of the day she will be because Republicans can't stop shooting themselves in the foot. They'll naively make their own campaign about social issues like gay marriage, and whether or not they're right, Republicans are on the wrong side of society at the moment. Whoever the Republican candidate is, he'll defeat himself by campaigning on social issues.

  • girl.in.slc Salt Lake , UT
    April 17, 2015 9:09 a.m.

    People can disagree with her policies, but there really isn't an argument over her ability to govern- she's proven more than capable. Due to her time as First Lady and as Secretary of State, she's built up relationship with foreign countries and proven a very efficient leader.

    Hopefully, we'll have more politicians who will take her approach to foreign policy to heart to prevent future confrontations.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    April 17, 2015 8:55 a.m.

    Use caution here GOP. Too much fault finding can backfire. I would be more interested in your aspirations in leading the country. First time is on her side with being the first woman to make a run for the presidency and I think one of the key factions that is going to be watching the main stream media exchange among the candidates are the today's college age generation. Although Hillary is a big political name, excessive critique of her just might spot light her among the young generation as someone to be sent to the Whitehouse. Again use caution.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    April 17, 2015 8:40 a.m.

    Like all the scandals of the Obama administration, I'm sure that all the Hillary supporters will put forth the idea that all 5 of these reasons are "phony". I think all 5 are valid issues that she must address. We will see if she is up to the task.

    Every candidate has some kind of baggage. Most will face challenges that they must overcome to get elected and Hillary is no exception. Just like the eventual Republican nominee, Hillary will be able to count on a certain percentage of the electorate to vote for her no matter what. It is that 20% or so in the middle that both sides must fight for.

  • Points to ponder Calgary, 00
    April 17, 2015 8:33 a.m.

    Who needs even one argument to defeat Hillary Clinton?

    Any argument is a waste of time.

    Just state all the facts and the voters decide.

    It really is a no brainier.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2015 8:32 a.m.

    Hillary shouldn't even be considered by democrat, republican, independent and so forth.

    She has proven herself to be incompetent, inept and not able to make good decisions in real time. We need a real leader to be president. Not another profiteer.