@LOU Montana,He hasn't presented an action plan.You
don't grant unlimited war power without knowing the plan, or strategy.
President Obama gets attacked by conservative for not taking action, he gets
attacked for taking action and he gets attacked not getting their permission.
What exactly is it that conservatives want?
According to Yahoo News this is what they said about the threat at home:The head of the FBI’s counterterrorism division was blunt about
the threat here at home from Americans who’ve trained with terrorist
groups like ISIS overseas: “We don’t have it under
control.”“It’s not even close to being under
control,” FBI Deputy Assistant Director Michael Steinbach told House
You can't have "war powers", without a plan or strategy.To do so, would give dangerous unlimited power to the commander.
With the biceps of Uerkle, Obama wants to now declare war on the JV Team!Again Obama finds himself in over his head!
@GaryODefine open cases.* I was under gun fire in
Bosnia* a video caused the violence in Benghazi* you will not see
your taxes go up a single dime, in any form* you can keep your doctor, and
planThese are not conservative lies
Who here has emailed their representatives in Washington and let them know your
position on this issue?We need a website that makes it more easy to
contact our representatives, keeps a tally of the views of the people of Utah
and keeps tabs on how the representatives voted, and if contrary to the majority
of the peoples desires have them explain why they voted as they did. And when
it comes time for re-election we can evaluate how well they represented the
people of Utah.Our elected representatives in Washington appear to
be working for monied interests. It is time that they return to working for the
Hey 2 bits -"Isn't this the same Barack Obama who promised
during his initial Presidential campaign that he could have us out of the
middle-east in 6 months? That these Terrorist groups would like America again IF
we elected him?"No . . .Obama didn't say that at all.Quit making stuff up.Do you know why "Conservatives"
lie so much? It's because they rarely have any facts to back up their
claims.----------------------Hey Flashback -"Oh by the way, the children of the current administration wouldn't
be able to fight their way out of a wet paper bag"Don't
worry. Obama has no intention of sending his daughters to fight in Iraq or
Syria.. . . Although they are much likely to join the fight than
any of the big, strong "Conservative" commentators in this forum. Utah
has a whole lot of "Conservative" war hawks, but it has very few people
who actually enlist and fight. Look it up...................worf"According to the FBI directer, [ISIL is] organized
here in forty nine states." Quit making stuff up.The
FBI said it "opened cases." That's a long way from confirmation.
Wait a minute....Isn't this the same Barack Obama who promised
during his initial Presidential campaign that he could have us out of the
middle-east in 6 months?That these Terrorist groups would like
America again IF we elected him?Isn't this the same guy, same
campaign managers, same media partners, and debate moderators... who mocked
McCain mercilessly for saying "it may take 10 years"?And yet
it HAS taken us 10 years... and nobody calls him on it? Seems to
me... Barack Obama was WRONG... and John McCain was right (and I'm not a
John McCain fan). He's asking Congress to extend the
resolution approving military action he claimed he could end quickly... into the
NEXT President's administration? When he complained so bitterly about
having to clean up?No irony there?Can anybody
acknowledge that Obama was wrong during his original campaign, and McCain was
right. It DID take 10 years!Can anybody acknowledge that Obama had
no clue during that campaign?I just think it's so ironic to see
him going to congress to commit us to 3 year extension of military action
(knowing he has 2 years left)...
Oh by the way, the children of the current administration wouldn't be able
to fight their way out of a wet paper bag. So having them prosecute a war is
like trying to float a rock in water.
We send in ground troops when Saudi Arabia, Yemen (well maybe not), UAE, Kuwait,
Iraq, Turkey, Germany, Spain, Japan, France, et al send troops in.And, if we do send troops in, we let the war fighters set the rules of
engagement instead of bureaucrats in Washington that don't have a clue.In other words, let the military do the job. Don't handcuff them.
Unfortunately, non-combatents will be killed. The bad guys will hide behind
them. While we need to do all we can to mitigate that, it isn't totally
possible.Basically we need to wage "Total War" (for
definition, talk to William Tecumseh Sherman).They are terrorists.
They won't fight fair. Neither should we.
At last! Ant not too soon!
@Liberal Ted"Our nobel peace prize winner at it again.....if it was
President Bush then the nut jobs in this country would be going ballistic,
holding rallies, taking drugs and free love in public spaces.This
president should have launched our military might awhile ago. "But since it's Obama you mock the idea of him being peaceful while
criticizing him for not attacking more and earlier.
ISIS is not only in the middle east.According to the FBI directer,
they are organized here in forty nine states.Many people in our
country have converted, and our open borders have allowed many more in. In 2013, 37,000 convicted prisoners in our nation were pardoned.
Perhaps, many of them have converted.
This is a tough call when people say to the neighboring countries in the Middle
East, handle the Islamic State Terrorists because of the fact who is to say that
most of the people in these countries are not sympathizers to Terrorists who are
looking at the United States and other countries who do not bow to sharia law as
the countries of infidels and the devil himself? So far Jordan and the Kurds are
the only ones who are declaring war on the Islamic State entity. Saudi Arabia?
Total lip service with lots of under the table dealings to ascertain their top
spot when it comes to oil revenues globally. I think the president didn't
want another 911 on his conscience before he leaves office and to pave a golden
path for his party prior to 2016 election day. In brief? Top notch Political
Roulette in which the GOP will fall prey to.
@RRB-Do you think the countries in that region could have or would have
stopped the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the attack on the USS
Cole, World Trade Center both times, or Fort Hood by adherents to radical Islam?
Do you not understand we are a target specifically because of our alliance with
Israel?This call for half-measures is doomed for failure because it
doesn't have a stated goal of the eradication of the radicalized forces of
Islam and this president will never vocalize efforts as such.How
many times must we burn ourselves over the failure to fully commit to a course
of action. The president should ask Congress for war powers to defeat ISIL and
then turn it over to his generals to decide how to accomplish that in the next
three years. Our strategy should include destruction of war-making capabilities
(personnel, weaponry and financing), elimination of recruiting centers and
deterring public relations effectiveness (radicalized mosques and web-attacks),
through cooperation with both parties in Congress. Congress needs to come
together as well to realize the importance of this course of action.
Our nobel peace prize winner at it again.....if it was President Bush then the
nut jobs in this country would be going ballistic, holding rallies, taking drugs
and free love in public spaces.This president should have launched
our military might awhile ago. Destroying terrorism should be one of our top
priorities. Destroy them in their homes, villages, cities, caves, schools
wherever terrorists are.Unfortunately there were more nut cases and
dead nut cases that voted him in, not once but twice. Now they're poorer
than ever and the rich are richer. So much for obamanomics, obamadiplomacy, the
apology tour etc.
Let the countries in that region handle it. I'm tired of paying for their
freedom with American lives.
Why do we feel the need to be the policeman of the world?Is there no
one e3se?Here is a unique idea. How do you purpose we pay for this
war?How about an excess tax to pay for it as we go?Is the only
alternative to cut domestic programs and to borrow from other countries who
benefit from our actions?