Obama on war powers request: Islamic State is going to lose

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 12, 2015 8:55 a.m.

    @LOU Montana,

    He hasn't presented an action plan.

    You don't grant unlimited war power without knowing the plan, or strategy.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Feb. 12, 2015 5:43 a.m.

    President Obama gets attacked by conservative for not taking action, he gets attacked for taking action and he gets attacked not getting their permission.

    What exactly is it that conservatives want?

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    Feb. 12, 2015 1:50 a.m.

    According to Yahoo News this is what they said about the threat at home:

    The head of the FBI’s counterterrorism division was blunt about the threat here at home from Americans who’ve trained with terrorist groups like ISIS overseas: “We don’t have it under control.”

    “It’s not even close to being under control,” FBI Deputy Assistant Director Michael Steinbach told House members today."

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 11, 2015 10:28 p.m.

    You can't have "war powers", without a plan or strategy.

    To do so, would give dangerous unlimited power to the commander.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 9:52 p.m.

    With the biceps of Uerkle, Obama wants to now declare war on the JV Team!

    Again Obama finds himself in over his head!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 11, 2015 8:27 p.m.

    @GaryO

    Define open cases.

    * I was under gun fire in Bosnia
    * a video caused the violence in Benghazi
    * you will not see your taxes go up a single dime, in any form
    * you can keep your doctor, and plan

    These are not conservative lies

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 5:44 p.m.

    Who here has emailed their representatives in Washington and let them know your position on this issue?

    We need a website that makes it more easy to contact our representatives, keeps a tally of the views of the people of Utah and keeps tabs on how the representatives voted, and if contrary to the majority of the peoples desires have them explain why they voted as they did. And when it comes time for re-election we can evaluate how well they represented the people of Utah.

    Our elected representatives in Washington appear to be working for monied interests. It is time that they return to working for the people.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Feb. 11, 2015 2:55 p.m.

    Hey 2 bits -

    "Isn't this the same Barack Obama who promised during his initial Presidential campaign that he could have us out of the middle-east in 6 months? That these Terrorist groups would like America again IF we elected him?"

    No . . .Obama didn't say that at all.

    Quit making stuff up.

    Do you know why "Conservatives" lie so much? It's because they rarely have any facts to back up their claims.

    ----------------------

    Hey Flashback -

    "Oh by the way, the children of the current administration wouldn't be able to fight their way out of a wet paper bag"

    Don't worry. Obama has no intention of sending his daughters to fight in Iraq or Syria.

    . . . Although they are much likely to join the fight than any of the big, strong "Conservative" commentators in this forum. Utah has a whole lot of "Conservative" war hawks, but it has very few people who actually enlist and fight. Look it up.

    ..................

    worf

    "According to the FBI directer, [ISIL is] organized here in forty nine states."

    Quit making stuff up.

    The FBI said it "opened cases." That's a long way from confirmation.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 1:07 p.m.

    Wait a minute....

    Isn't this the same Barack Obama who promised during his initial Presidential campaign that he could have us out of the middle-east in 6 months?

    That these Terrorist groups would like America again IF we elected him?

    Isn't this the same guy, same campaign managers, same media partners, and debate moderators... who mocked McCain mercilessly for saying "it may take 10 years"?

    And yet it HAS taken us 10 years... and nobody calls him on it?

    Seems to me... Barack Obama was WRONG... and John McCain was right (and I'm not a John McCain fan).

    He's asking Congress to extend the resolution approving military action he claimed he could end quickly... into the NEXT President's administration? When he complained so bitterly about having to clean up?

    No irony there?

    Can anybody acknowledge that Obama was wrong during his original campaign, and McCain was right. It DID take 10 years!

    Can anybody acknowledge that Obama had no clue during that campaign?

    I just think it's so ironic to see him going to congress to commit us to 3 year extension of military action (knowing he has 2 years left)...

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 12:13 p.m.

    Oh by the way, the children of the current administration wouldn't be able to fight their way out of a wet paper bag. So having them prosecute a war is like trying to float a rock in water.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 12:11 p.m.

    We send in ground troops when Saudi Arabia, Yemen (well maybe not), UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, Turkey, Germany, Spain, Japan, France, et al send troops in.

    And, if we do send troops in, we let the war fighters set the rules of engagement instead of bureaucrats in Washington that don't have a clue.

    In other words, let the military do the job. Don't handcuff them. Unfortunately, non-combatents will be killed. The bad guys will hide behind them. While we need to do all we can to mitigate that, it isn't totally possible.

    Basically we need to wage "Total War" (for definition, talk to William Tecumseh Sherman).

    They are terrorists. They won't fight fair. Neither should we.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Feb. 11, 2015 12:07 p.m.

    At last! Ant not too soon!

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 11:09 a.m.

    @Liberal Ted
    "Our nobel peace prize winner at it again.....if it was President Bush then the nut jobs in this country would be going ballistic, holding rallies, taking drugs and free love in public spaces.

    This president should have launched our military might awhile ago. "

    But since it's Obama you mock the idea of him being peaceful while criticizing him for not attacking more and earlier.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 11, 2015 10:59 a.m.

    ISIS is not only in the middle east.

    According to the FBI directer, they are organized here in forty nine states.

    Many people in our country have converted, and our open borders have allowed many more in.

    In 2013, 37,000 convicted prisoners in our nation were pardoned. Perhaps, many of them have converted.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 10:36 a.m.

    This is a tough call when people say to the neighboring countries in the Middle East, handle the Islamic State Terrorists because of the fact who is to say that most of the people in these countries are not sympathizers to Terrorists who are looking at the United States and other countries who do not bow to sharia law as the countries of infidels and the devil himself? So far Jordan and the Kurds are the only ones who are declaring war on the Islamic State entity. Saudi Arabia? Total lip service with lots of under the table dealings to ascertain their top spot when it comes to oil revenues globally. I think the president didn't want another 911 on his conscience before he leaves office and to pave a golden path for his party prior to 2016 election day. In brief? Top notch Political Roulette in which the GOP will fall prey to.

  • kiddsport Fairview, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 10:33 a.m.

    @RRB-
    Do you think the countries in that region could have or would have stopped the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the attack on the USS Cole, World Trade Center both times, or Fort Hood by adherents to radical Islam? Do you not understand we are a target specifically because of our alliance with Israel?

    This call for half-measures is doomed for failure because it doesn't have a stated goal of the eradication of the radicalized forces of Islam and this president will never vocalize efforts as such.

    How many times must we burn ourselves over the failure to fully commit to a course of action. The president should ask Congress for war powers to defeat ISIL and then turn it over to his generals to decide how to accomplish that in the next three years. Our strategy should include destruction of war-making capabilities (personnel, weaponry and financing), elimination of recruiting centers and deterring public relations effectiveness (radicalized mosques and web-attacks), through cooperation with both parties in Congress. Congress needs to come together as well to realize the importance of this course of action.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 10:06 a.m.

    Our nobel peace prize winner at it again.....if it was President Bush then the nut jobs in this country would be going ballistic, holding rallies, taking drugs and free love in public spaces.

    This president should have launched our military might awhile ago. Destroying terrorism should be one of our top priorities. Destroy them in their homes, villages, cities, caves, schools wherever terrorists are.

    Unfortunately there were more nut cases and dead nut cases that voted him in, not once but twice. Now they're poorer than ever and the rich are richer. So much for obamanomics, obamadiplomacy, the apology tour etc.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 9:21 a.m.

    Let the countries in that region handle it. I'm tired of paying for their freedom with American lives.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2015 9:04 a.m.

    Why do we feel the need to be the policeman of the world?

    Is there no one e3se?

    Here is a unique idea. How do you purpose we pay for this war?
    How about an excess tax to pay for it as we go?
    Is the only alternative to cut domestic programs and to borrow from other countries who benefit from our actions?