Hey Objectified - “ Why don't you include them
[Democrats in Congress] in your rhetorical and continuous attacks against former
President Bush?” . . . Because the Bush administration lied to
them."We do know that the Iraqi regime has chemical and
biological weapons. His regime has amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of
chemical weapons -- including VX, sarin, cyclosarin and mustard gas. ... His
regime has amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of biological
weapons—including anthrax and botulism toxin, and possibly smallpox."
- 09/18/2002, Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense (before Congress)Daddy GHW Bush had been raked over the coals by Right Wing demagogues because
he didn’t “finish the job” and kill Sadaam. GW decided to
fix that and make Rush Limbaugh happy. GW IGNORED all evidence (and there was a
considerable amount) that indicated that there were no WMD’s in Iraq.Face it Objectified, GW and his Republicans geniuses put this nation in
a deep hole.So far, Obama has done a pretty fair job of pulling us
@ GaryO:My last rebuttal to you was apparently rejected. So in light
of that, I will try to lighten up and hope you'll still be able to get the
basic message in a way the comment police won't find too offensive.The attack on Iraq under President Bush was made as a joint
Congressional action with many liberal democrats, including Nancy Pelosi and
Hillary Clinton, also voting for it. As such, why don't you include them in
your rhetorical and continuous attacks against former President Bush?President Bush, along with most of Congress, were given the same intel... that
was considered the best available at that time. There was no reason to doubt it,
since it had a reputation of being reliable. But eventually, some of it proved
to be false. That wasn't the fault of President Bush or anyone else in
Congress (including many liberals) who used it as the basis for their attack
decision. Obviously, hindsight is 20/20... as it always is. Only a
very naive person would use subsequent corrected intel as the basis for
attacking and condemning cherry-picked political decisions. Sadly, that's
exactly what you continue doing.
@ Tekakaromatagi:Thankfully, there are groups of Muslims who only
selectively follow the Koran's call for jihad, such as your local Saudi
Arabian friends. Nevertheless, that call for jihad actions is there in their
scriptures in at least 10 different places. And those scripture references are
often quoted by militant Muslim extremists as the basis for their abhorrent
actions against non-believers in multiple parts of the world. In fact, they are
sometimes the reason or excuse for some of those splinter extremist groups
coming into existence. By the way... There is nothing funny about it
or its consequences. And yes, I'm sure.
"Iraq was STABLE under Sadaam Hussein.Iraq is now extremely
UNSTABLE, to our great disadvantage . . . Courtesy of GW Bush and his ridiculous
meddling."Germany was stable in 1939 when France and the UK
started their "meddling" and declared war on Germany.While
Iraq itself may have been stable, the Middle East was not. Hussein was not
exactly the most benevolent leader."Face it, American
“Conservatives” are this nation’s enemy number ONE."I suppose conservatives must be enemy number one to Obama's vision
of America, but of the free United States of America, beloved country of the
last century and of which I am a proud citizen, conservatives are an ALLY.
It's a sad day when liberals are more concerned with their domestic
political foes than they are to real terrorist threats.
teka..............i hate to tell you but the saudi government aren't
friends of the US. most of the 9-11 murderers were from saudi arabia and they
continue to fund world wide terrorism.
@Abdulameer:"That is the ideology of jihad (War against
non-Moslems) which is taught and preached in every mosque in the world because
that is what Allah in the Koran commands."That is funny. Are
you sure? How do you know? I live in Saudi Arabia. About 10 years ago when Al
Qaeda in the Arabian peninsula was trying to get a start they made some
terrorist attacks against ex-pats, people like me. They cut off a few heads,
attacked places where Westerners congregated.A Saudi friend pulled
me aside and said, "Last night my wife and I sat our children down and said
that it is not our religion to kill people who have come to help us."
Others told me, "You are under our protection. If anything happens to you
the shame will be on us."Whoever told you that was wrong and I
would advise you to never listen to that person again.
@GaryOAnd while Obama plays golf, the world is on
fire. from americans being murdered in the middle east,
to the dangerous and open borders of our border with mexico being worse than
ever (with Obama following the roman policy of allowing any barbarian
citizenship to buy more democrat votes, that worked well for rome yeah?) from russia in the Ukraine, to radical islam emboldened and sweeping
the middle east, what liberal policy of the last 7 years is
working?American “Conservatives” are this nation’s
enemy number ONE? To who? The extreme left implementing their ideology and
fundamentally changing America, but certainly not the America that the founding
Obama has a great reluctance to kill terrorists who are Moslems, although he
feels compelled to do it occasionally for political reasons. He had to make a
show of killing Bin Laden and a few others in Al Qaeda, but he has no problems
in dealing with the Taliban with whom we supposedly have been at war for 12
years. He is prepared to return Afghanistan to them. Generally, his policy has
been to support the Islamic extremists in Libya, Egypt, Gaza and Syria. Now,
ISIS, which is mostly based in Syria, has become such a problem because of that
gruesome video of our journalist being beheaded that he might have to take some
action against them. Remember, only a year or so ago, Obama belittled the
significance of ISIS. Obama either does not know, or does not care, that the
ideology which motivates ISIS is the very same ideology which motivates Al
Qaeda, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic Republic of Iran and many
other Moslem supremacist groups. That is the ideology of jihad (War against
non-Moslems) which is taught and preached in every mosque in the world because
that is what Allah in the Koran commands.
Between golf games with the liberal "rich and famous" maybe BHO can
confer with his NSA Team and the military and come up with a plan for the
next 24 months. At the present time we have the best leadership votes money can
The difficulty is that the president is not facing the tough decisions. He seems
to think that if the US shrinks from international leadership, the vacuum will
not be filled by anyone. In reality, Putin, jihadists and China are already
dictating the course of international events. HIs neo-isolationist mentality is
leading to world chaos. The president's policies have resulted in the US
being neither feared or loved.
Hey “The Greater Truth” -“The 100,000 dead Iraqi
is simply a false and misleading number.”The fact remains that
if GW had not launched his unprovoked war on Iraq, those people would not have
been killed in GW’s war, would they?Iraq was STABLE under
Sadaam Hussein.Iraq is now extremely UNSTABLE, to our great
disadvantage . . . Courtesy of GW Bush and his ridiculous meddling.“Perhaps if the liberals let US military actually fight as they able to
it would actually only take 10 days.” “If the liberals
let the US military actually fight,” the United States would be gone,
annihilated in a Nuclear war years ago.And “If the liberals
let the US military actually fight,” in Iraq, we would still be there in
force, with losses in the high tens of thousands, wasting trillions, and an
international pariah, hated by the sane societies of the world.Face
it, American “Conservatives” are this nation’s enemy number
@GaryOThe 100,000 dead Iraqi is simply a false and misleading
number.The US military did not kill all those, otherwise ISSA would
not exist.The fact is radicsl islamic extremists did most of the
killing, and US military had their hands tied with rules of engagement.Perhaps if the liberals let US military actually fight as they able to it
would actually only take 10 days.
barry is so far over his head. he can't make a decision, has not strategy
and has exposed himself as a totally incompetent "leader". he really
needs to go back to hanging community bulletins on telephone poles. Six years is
Hey Lost in DC –“ . . . it worked out OK until BO
abandoned the gains we made there . . . “You’re
fantasizing again. What “gains?” We didn’t make any
“gains.”GW attacked Iraq as a direct response to 911.
But Iraq and Sadaam had NOTHING to do with 911.All GW succeeded in
doing is destabilizing the Middle East for years to come, and succeeded in
weakening our national security as a result.Face it Lost . . . I
know how much you “Conservatives” must want to just fantasize your
RESPONSIBILITY for this fiasco away.But the facts remain facts . .
. And the fact is that Conservative “leadership” has been dragging
down this nation for the last 30 years.
GaryOit worked out OK until BO abandoned the gains we made there.100,000 Iraqia dead. that's a lot, but not as many as the 160,000 dead
in Syria under BO's misleadership. 160,000 that need not be dead if BO had
not shown weakness every day of his misadministration
@worfYeah, and Iraq was only supposed to take a few weeks too. This
isn't something simple. It's complex. Don't forget that both
these countries have a 3-sided conflict. In Syria there's Assad, ISIS, and
the moderate rebel faction. In Iraq there's ISIS, the Kurdish forces, and
the Shi'ite majority Iraqi government (as well as the Sunnis that
aren't aligned with the radical Sunni group ISIS). There's reports of
an attack on a Sunni mosque in Iraq today. It didn't say who was
responsible but there's a chance that booting out ISIS will just result in
Shi'a militias in Iraq persecuting the Sunnis.
GaryO,I wouldn't choose Obama for a relay race.He'll mess up and lose the race for you, then blame the other runners.
Worf -"Use our military, and take a week to wipe them
out."Really?That's kind of what GW did in Iraq,
isn't it?He killed 100,000 Iraqis in no time flat."Mission Accomplished!"BTW . . . How did that all that
mcclark,The Bush card is growing old.
BO’s not up to the task.Too bad he has projected such an image
of weakness and disinterest. Had he not done so, the terrorists would not have
been so emboldened and would not have established themselves.
Worf---It worked so well when Bush tried it. We had to hurry up and invade
before summer came, didn't want our boys to have to suffer in the heat.
One option.Use our military, and take a week to wipe them out.None of these ten year routines.