US diplomats barred from ice bucket challenge

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  • Kass SLC, UT
    Aug. 22, 2014 11:25 p.m.

    @ Chris B: So Obama did exactly what he was asked to do, but that's not good enough for you because a few days later someone else made a different choice about how to do it?

    You may not like the way he did, but claiming he failed to do it is false.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Aug. 22, 2014 7:56 a.m.


    The comments on this board from "Conservatives" are pretty funny.

    "Conservatives" are actually criticizing our President for not dumping a bucket of ice water on his head . . . And just " do it like Bush did."

    Personally, I don't want this President or ANY future President to " do it like Bush did."

    GW's Presidency was a complete and total disaster.

    . . . But I can see their argument.

    By dumping a bucket of Ice Water on his head, GW was finally able to actually do something on the public stage that caused NO harm to this nation.

  • Unreconstructed Reb Chantilly, VA
    Aug. 21, 2014 6:33 p.m.

    Thank you, Lawyer in Spain, for bringing up the ethics regulations for federal employee conduct. Those rules are little understood by those who haven't lived under them. Unfortunately those whose sole motivation is scoring political cheap shots will ignore what's actually at issue here.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 6:10 p.m.


    Once again, let me help a liberal who doesn't fully understand.

    What most famous people are doing is 1)do the ice challenge an post it to gain awareness AND 2) donate to the cause.

    That's what president bush chose to do. And because of his willingness millions of Americans watched the video and without a doubt brought even more awareness AND money.

    Just think how much more awareness and money Barack would have brought if he had done the ice water challenge

    But he declined. So sad.

    Thanks president Bush for not being too good for the issue.

  • Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 21, 2014 5:09 p.m.

    @ Richard B and Chris B: The ALS Ice Bucket Challenge is a two-part challenge. Part 1 is to dump a bucket of ice water on your head and post the video on social media to raise awareness for ALS. Part 2 is in lieu of Part 1 and is the option of making a financial donation to an ALS charity to fund treatment and research.

    Obama did part 2. Are you claiming that it is more important to do part 1 and talk about ALS, or do you feel that treating it and searching for a cure can be equally important?

    According to the ALS Association, the Ice Bucket challenge has raised $31.5 million, compared to $1.9 million in the same time period last year. Apparently, Obama is not the only one who opted for part 2.

    @ Vanceone and Redshirt: Do you really think a politician raising money for him or herself is the same thing as raising money for a charity? Do you really think a diplomat (usually an appointed position) is in the same category as an elected politician?

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 2:40 p.m.

    Obama went on late night talk shows, but that was OK? For profit is fine, charities are out of line? That is a progressive Democrat for you.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 2:25 p.m.

    Lawyer in Spain: Does that mean we can go arrest all those people--governmental personnel, all-- who begged and pleaded for government funds to go to so-called "Green initiatives" that are clearly just government donations to charities disguised as companies meant to suck down government funds with no intention of repayment? Like Solyndra?

  • Lawyer in Spain Rota, 00
    Aug. 21, 2014 1:39 p.m.

    I'm a federal government ethics attorney. The law prohibits federal government employees from endorsing or soliciting on behalf of a charity, if they use their official position in any way or if government endorsement might be inferred. The rules are a little different for elected officials and certain extremely high-level folks (think cabinet members), but are most strict for the next level down (senior department officials and administrators). It's actually a pretty good system because it prevents anyone who is a career employee of the federal government from using their positions for personal gain or to favor particular companies/non-profits, which is the root of most corruption in countries without such rules.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 1:29 p.m.


    Like a typical liberal, leave out the most important part of a story - right after Bush said that his wife dumped ice water all over him. He was clearly mocking the notion he was too good or "too presidential" for that. Why did your purposely leave that part out? So very dishonest. And sadly expected.

    Its too bad barack wouldn't give 5 minutes to raise awareness for this charity and do it like Bush did.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 11:49 a.m.

    If he did it, Republicans would be just saying he's demeaning the office anyway (like George Bush's quip that it didn't seem very presidential).

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Aug. 21, 2014 11:48 a.m.

    Let me get this straight. A diplomat cannot do something for a charity because of their office, yet a politician can use their office to solicit donations for their campaign. Doesn't that seem a bit hypocritical?

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 10:31 a.m.

    I see Obama has refused to do it. My guess is that this will become his excuse. He doesn't seem to have a problem promoting late night talk shows. A charity in my mind would be more worthwhile.