Vandalism, looting in suburban St. Louis after fatal police shooting

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  • chen Boulder, CO
    Aug. 14, 2014 10:29 a.m.

    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
    Martin Luther King, Jr.
    Before you make an irrational comment about race and the "African Community" or the Ferguson shooting, please think twice before posting your comment.

  • boneheaded, but not a smidgen SLC, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 4:32 p.m.

    having lived through the civil rights days, i have not seen the racial divide since then as it is now. coincidently, much worse since barry took office. I wonder why.

  • MurrayGuy Murray, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 10:32 a.m.

    I love the race question here, I love the commentary by Stephen Smith (ESPN analyst) talks about the race/socio-economic gap. Mr. Smith (African-American btw) talks about working hard and not letting your circumstances and color of your skin keep you down. Great little speech and the comments by other African Americans are anything but flattering. Guess the truth hurts.

  • Uncle_Fester Niskayuna, NY
    Aug. 12, 2014 8:19 a.m.

    Yup because whenever someone gets killed by the police everything is made better by general looting. Of course when the order of magnitude higher numbers of run of the mill murders -lower socio-economic class on lower socio-economic class occur no looting takes place. Odd that.

  • md Cache, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 3:48 p.m.

    DanO... Many times, police need to let shooters walk when they think he was doing it in self defense. Apparently, after a trial, they were right in letting him walk. My point is that there is racism alive and well in our country and it isn't only white people that are racist.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 3:11 p.m.

    Re: "Vandalism, looting in suburban St. Louis"

    If I were a police chief receiving a report that a couple teens -- regardless of race -- insisted on shoving one of my armed police officers back into his cruiser, engaging in a mixed martial arts demonstration on him that spilled out onto the sidewalk, and no one was shot or arrested, that police officer would be quickly identified as needing, at the very least, more training.

    Being shot is -- rightly -- one of the many hazards young toughs need to be aware of when they decide to engage in this kind of thuggish, antisocial behavior.

    And, the antisocial behavior that followed is related to the police-car incident only to the extent that the crowd of predatory, antisocial thugs engaged in vandalism and looting were also motivated by the same pathological attitudes infecting the teens, as well as way too many in the entitlement society that Obama and his liberal "cognoscenti" are attempting to create in America.

    Anyone suggesting that this venal, evil violence is somehow rationally based on the shooting, is part of the problem, not the solution.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:54 p.m.

    @Dr. Thom

    "On another not, if the child killed was a white child killed by a black cop, would the FBI still be involved this quickly?"

    Does it matter? A black American is still an American. If a cop kills an American, regarless of color unjustifiably, it is wrong. As long as we keep an "us" and "them" mentality, we will continue to have a separate society. All Americans should be outraged when innocent people are killed for no apparent reason. Justice is blind, or is supposed to be.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:50 p.m.


    "I now wonder if the Africans who were brought to the "richest" country on Earth would have been happier and "richer" if they had stayed."


    They weren't simply "brought" here. They were forced here and forced into hard labor for no reason other than their skin color. Of course they would have been happier to "stay" in Africa as free individuals. They had NO choice in the matter. I guess they had a choice to die or come here as slaves. Some choice.

    This is the silliest comment I've seen in the forums in a long, long time.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 2:09 p.m.

    It makes you wonder if this riot was really the result of outrage over a perceived injustice...or just an excuse to loot and vandalize.

    Too many of these "riots" are just excuses for thugs to break the law. It sometime happens after their home team wins (or loses) a championship; when a disaster happens (e.g. Hurricane Katrina); or when elections don't go their way. Any crowd gathering becomes an excuse to bust a store window and make off with the merchandise.

  • Dr. Thom Long Beach, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:45 p.m.

    The last time I checked, Missouri is a conceal carry state, so when looting a store, looters should be extra careful whom they decide to rob. On another not, if the child killed was a white child killed by a black cop, would the FBI still be involved this quickly?

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:35 p.m.

     Abraham Lincoln famously stated "Whenever the vicious portion of the population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision stores, throw printing presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure, and with impunity; depend on it, this government cannot last."

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Aug. 11, 2014 12:57 p.m.

    Sad that someone was shot and killed when death was not deserved.

    However, to me, it is almost as sad, maybe even more, that people decided to loot and run wild with violent destruction because of a mistake.

    By the way....this recent spate of looting/violence/destruction is nothing like what I fear will soon occur in America when we (as a nation) run short of the food and fuel needed to sustain a "normal" society. When it happens it's going to get super ugly, super fast.

  • DanO Mission Viejo, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 11:54 a.m.

    md.. eventually he was tried, but yes, the police let him walk that night. It was only after community outcry that he was finally charged.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 11:44 a.m.

    I heard on the radio this morning that the youth's family is condemning the violence and will not endorse rallies in support of their son that become violent.

    Good for them; they are not letting one tragedy excuse a string of other tragedies - regardless of the fact that they are significantly smaller tragedies.

  • md Cache, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 11:23 a.m.

    DanO -- Zimmerman wasn't let go by the police. He was tried. He got off. Right or wrong, he was tried. What is your point?

    My comment is referring to the fact that when something happens that some blacks construe as racist, they riot, loot and kill. Thuggish behavior isn't justified, even when you are offended.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 11:18 a.m.

    Nothing expresses possibly justifiable outrage at possible civil rights violations like looting liquor stores, burning Quik Stop stores, and stealing stuff from WalMart.

    It seems that outrage over possible racial injustice only works one way. Where are the defenders of Jamal Mumia, convicted of murdering a Philadelphia cop in cold blood, who is seen as a hero to the left as an example of injustice. Why are they not defending the cop in Missouri?

    Although no one yet has full facts on the incident, the cop reportedly feared death or serious bodily injury which justified lethal self defense. But even facts won't stop a mob who will believe want they want to believe. Especially if they don't like cops or laws anyway.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 11:11 a.m.

    thugs acting like thugs

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 11:11 a.m.

    I just got back from spending two weeks in Africa on a service mission. The Africans there are among the poorest people I've seen yet were so happy. SO HAPPY and giving. Without the slightest innuendo of racism, I now wonder if the Africans who were brought to the "richest" country on Earth would have been happier and "richer" if they had stayed. Slavery is still being atoned for in this country.

  • techpubs Sioux City, IA
    Aug. 11, 2014 10:49 a.m.

    DanO, And yet there is very little coverage of all of the young blacks who are shot by other young blacks in LA, Chicago, NY, etc. on a weekly basis. Where is the outrage for those innocent victims?
    When will the protesters learn that looting does nothing to help their cause be accepted?

  • DanO Mission Viejo, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 9:16 a.m.

    md, the difference is those two youths have been arrested and will be tried. People tried to make the same comparisons when Trayvon Martin was killed. Again, the difference is in the other cases, the police didn't just let the shooters go.

  • md Cache, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 7:20 a.m.

    Where is the outrage for the 12 and 16 year-old blacks that shot a 58 year-old, unarmed, white, homeless man in Florida two weeks ago?