Mountain West looks to peacefully co-exist with power conferences

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  • Las Vegas Aggie Logan, Utah
    July 28, 2014 6:07 p.m.

    Take a you look at the real picture there are about 6 good SEC teams, 5 good Big 10 teams, 3 good big 12 teams, 5 good PAC 10 teams, and 4 good ACC teams. After that all of the major leagues are very vanilla! Just because your in one of the major doesn't mean your good it just means you get a lot of money and isn't that is what college football is all about now? Utah gets the money great for them but will they ever go to a Rose Bowl? I don't know but it's nice to play for one. How many teams in the PAC 10 ever played in a Rose Bowl? I'm pretty sure that their are serveral that have not played in one or played in one in over 50 years. I'm not even thinking about the new comers..

    It's just good to get a check, isn't it!

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 26, 2014 1:39 p.m.


    Stop trying to fool everyone. You sugar coated it with the SUU/USU comparison. I know for a fact you are worse than that. Unlike me, unlike me? Yeah you are right. If it's USU it's bad. And you do nothing to prove me wrong. Other than USU I respect other teams and other conferences. Like the rivalry we have with Weber. That is a rivalry built on respect. What is the USU/BYU/Utah rivalry built on? Certainly not respect.

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    July 25, 2014 1:46 p.m.

    @Stang0, I have never belittled anyone else's program, ever. I may say SUU and the Big Sky are not at the same level as the MWC, just as USU and the MWC is not at the same level of the PAC 12. Unlike you, I can appreciate the success of exceptional athletes and teams regardless of who they are or what conference they are affiliated with. Your perspective is, if it is USU it is bad...that simple.

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 25, 2014 1:27 p.m.


    You brag about stuff like that all the time. "You apparently get satisfaction from belittling other programs and seem to feed off of that". And you don't?

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    July 25, 2014 11:04 a.m.

    @2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0,
    You just don't get it (which is fine). At no time am I bragging that USU is "better" than the U or BYU or Wyoming or New Mexico. You apparently get satisfaction from belittling other programs and seem to feed off of that. But Utah is not better than SC, Oregon, Stanford, Alabama, or a host of other power schools (and don't mention that you beat Standford and Alabama or I will mention USU beat the U 2012). USU's goal should be to win the MWC just as Utah's should be to go to the Rose Bowl. Good luck to both schools.

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    July 25, 2014 9:36 a.m.


    Whats important is to be the best possible - being competitive in conference is completely relative and meaningless. I could be competitive playing church ball, but that doesn't mean watching me play ball is more exciting than watching a less competitive matchup between the San Antonio Spurs and the Phoenix Suns. Nor does this mean I can brag and mock the phoenix suns even if I am more competitive if I played church ball than the suns are against the Spurs.

    If usu fans are content bragging about being better than Wyoming or New Mexico - LOL, whatever floats your boat. Just don't pretend you're on the same level as Utah even if Utah is struggling our first few years in a league that is infinitely better.

    Using the common big fish small fish example, a "small fish" Utah in a big Pac 12 pond is still bigger than a "big fish" usu in a tiny WAC pond.

    We're still bigger(better) than you.

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    July 25, 2014 8:48 a.m.

    2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0
    Something else, as a long time season ticket holder for ASU, I can affirm that watching Aggie football is just as exciting as watching PAC12 contests. What generates fan support is a connection to the school, not the conference. Utah will never be in the same conversation as Ohio State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Southern California (in terms of football competitiveness and history) just as USU won't be in the same conversation with many of the PAC 12 schools. That doesn't mean that great, enjoyable football cannot occur on all levels. You need to get over the my conference is better than your conference mentality and just cheer on your team.

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    July 25, 2014 8:27 a.m.

    @2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0

    You exemplify the testosterone rush that some fans get by beating their chest and saying their conference is better than someone else's. What is important, from my perspective, is to be in a competitive conference. USU cannot compete with universities with the resources of USC, UCLA, Cal etc (and neither can Utah apparently). Best game I ever saw was Harvard vs Yale 28 to 28 tie. College football is about entertainment, having USU compete in the P5 conferences would not be entertaining. It would be dismal. We are where we belong and hopefully can capture the MWC title this year.

  • Colo. Aggie Loveland, CO
    July 25, 2014 7:43 a.m.

    I want to see the MWC add a 12th school for all sports other than Football. This would bring balance back to the basketball scheduling where each team would plan their division home and home and one game against each school from the opposite division for 16 games total. There are two schools that would be ideal for this addition. First, is to add BYU back in with a scheduling arrangement for the independent football team. If BYU can't stomach coming back, then we should go hard after getting Gonzaga to join. What a fantastic basketball conference the MWC would become with Gonzaga added to SDSU, UNLV, New Mexico, Utah State, etc. It would be a great addition, and would be great for Gonzaga as well.

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    July 24, 2014 2:39 p.m.


    If you've enjoyed IVY league games as much as Pac 12 games, that's fine to have that opinion, but you'd be in the very small minority.

    The WAC 2.0(MWC) and all other mid majors conferences are a HUGE step below the power conferences, not just a small step. Last year the Pac 12 went 14-1 against the WAC(including byu)

    The gap is monumental - and it continues to grow.

    I'm glad that WAC fans can watch their WAC football and cheer for their WAC teams - but they don't belong in the same conversation with the power 5 teams.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    July 24, 2014 10:14 a.m.

    With Weber State's basketball program averaging better than 2/3 of the MWC and 1/2 the PAC-12, The MWC should pick up Weber State for basketball only. It would be a big adjustment, but UNLV, SDSU, and New Mexico coming up to the Dee Events Center would be awesome!

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 23, 2014 10:43 p.m.


    I was talking about the WAC 2.0 with conferences like the PAC12, Big12, Big10, SEC and so on. Not the Big Sky.

  • David Centerville, UT
    July 23, 2014 3:45 p.m.

    I am honestly surprised that Craig Thompson still has his job.

  • Serenity Now Highland, UT
    July 23, 2014 3:43 p.m.

    Remember that investigation or lawsuit brought by the Utah AG that quietly went away when Utah was accepted in the PAC 10 and the BCS went to a playoff format?

    Despite the prior show of reasonable access, why wouldn't or shouldn't there be a similar antitrust investigation if the "Big 5" consolidated their power, excluded the smaller schools from access via scheduling incentives, or took any other number of steps to restrain competition? I'm not saying it would have merit or not, but all it would take is a smaller school with political influence (or a booster in the DOJ or an AG's office) to start something similar in the future if the big schools get too greedy.

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    July 23, 2014 2:59 p.m. might be by Big Sky

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 23, 2014 1:36 p.m.

    Based on past comments from some fan's I'd say no the big and little conferences can't coexist.

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    July 23, 2014 9:43 a.m.

    As long as the conferences are composed of schools with near equal resources, I feel comfortable with the current level of competition. Having watched the IVY League for years (Cornell/Pennsylvania ties) I can say I enjoyed those games every bit as much as the PAC 12 (ASU) and MWC (USU).

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    July 23, 2014 9:07 a.m.

    Thompson may single handily be the cause for the MWC to be weaker than it had to be. But, that's water under the bridge. Oh well.