Government made $100B in improper payments

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  • Tators Logan, UT
    July 9, 2014 3:42 p.m.

    @ Esquire:

    I'm quite certain Mountanman is correct regarding this issue. You are picking out a few numbers in the middle of Obama's time in office, and comparing them to themselves, but not comparing anything to numbers before Obama came into office.

    I've read multiple times that the federal government has significantly grown under Obama, along with overall huge increases in government spending. There's no question the federal government deficit has grown immensely under Obama, even above and beyond war spending. It has come down recently, but is still above Bush's highest annual deficit. Those numbers are easy for anyone to verify.

    If you choose to list some specific comparative numbers between the actual timeframes of this and the last administration, please list verifiable sources for those numbers. If you don't respond accordingly, we can only assume Mountanman was indeed correct regarding his initial assessment.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    July 9, 2014 1:39 p.m.

    Sorry Mountanman, you are wrong. You have been sucked into the propaganda. OPM reports Executive Branch employee numbers as follows: 2,776,000 in 2010, 2,756,000 in 2011, and 2,697,000 in 2012. I can confirm a similar trend for the period since 2012. So, when I said "the federal workforce has been shrinking", I was correct. You can play with numbers and bring in other metrics, but all you are doing is showing your view of the President, which we already know, regardless of the facts.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    July 9, 2014 1:19 p.m.

    @ Esquire. Baloney! The federal government has grown by leaps and bounds under Obama, except for the military which is the only government entity that has decreased under Obama. Obamacare has added tens of thousands of government employees alone! Government spending as a share of the economy has hovered around 24% during the Obama administration, several percentage points higher than under President Bush, according to Congressional Budget Office data. So where has all the money gone since Obama came to town? No one knows which is the point of this article, which you famously try to blame on GWB, again, but this in on Obama's watch!

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    July 9, 2014 12:41 p.m.

    All the right wing hand-wringing over an issue that has existed from day one (and one commenter had to drag in another gratuitous shot at Obama). If improper payments are really an issue for those on the right, where in the world were you during the Bush years. That was unprecedented in handing over taxpayer funds to profiteer friends. And guess what, under Obama, the federal workforce has been shrinking. So, you can point your fingers elsewhere. Maybe at yourselves for rubber-stamping the actions of the Bush crowd and then wondering where all the money went when a new team came to town.

  • Kindred Mesa, AZ
    July 9, 2014 12:28 p.m.

    This report is illustrative of my greatest concern when there is talk about government expansion. I cannot think of a single example of a government program which could be held up as a model of efficiency and effectiveness. Every agency seems to be poorly run, expensive, wasteful, and ineffective when compared to examples from the private sector. Government is a necessary evil which mostly accomplishes things by force and it should be kept as small as reasonably possible.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    July 9, 2014 11:54 a.m.

    Oh well! What's $100 billion of taxpayer money to the federal government? In any other organization, people would go to prison but in our government, no one is accountable and no one cares!

  • Light and Liberty St. George/Washington, UT
    July 9, 2014 9:28 a.m.

    I'm shocked! Just shocked! I am sure our progressive friends will defer to "social Justice", compassion, and another reason why we need to just nationalize every business, eliminate the Bill of Rights, and require a retinal scan for everyone. All, of course, to make sure these shocking developments will never happen again!

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2014 9:16 a.m.

    This is why the IRS actually needs funding increased, not decreased. It actually helps the deficit to increase their funding because with more employees (and less of a rush with a backlog for current ones) they're able to figure out these sorts of errors.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 9, 2014 8:58 a.m.

    And school students are accountable for math test scores?

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:39 a.m.

    A quick, leftist way to solve this problem - make sure that all payments are "proper" by eliminating the need for documentation. Right?

    After all, it is probably racist, homophobic, or anti-women to require those seeking government assistance to prove that they qualify. Just like the voter ID laws that have been fought tooth and nail by this administration, these problems of overpayments need to be dealt with in the same manner by Obama. Sweep it under the rug...make the problem go away because it stands in the way of a socialist agenda.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:36 a.m.

    Our tax dollars at work.

    That is, if you pay taxes, instead of collect the handouts- legally or illegally.

    But, Congress cannot figure out how to cut a dime of spending, even when smacked in the face by $100 billion of not only illegal but therefore unnecessary spending.

    No wonder we are broke.