Supreme Court poised to decide birth control coverage dispute

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  • the truth Holladay, UT
    June 29, 2014 4:25 p.m.


    The Christians are NOT out to get you or force you to do any thing. But neither by the power and force of government should you be forcing them to be bent to your will and dictate to them just because you do not agree with their beliefs.

    In this country all people are allowed to live their beliefs and conscience both publically and privately. Which includes the influencing of the making of law. It is one of the most important and honored and cherished liberties we have.

    If people are no longer allowed to live according to there beliefs and conscience then what is the point of the American experiment?

    No. People should not be forced to pay for what ever care you demand just because you think they should. It defies e individual liberty and freedom and everything this country has stood for.

    If you force labor from your baker, put them into servitude to you, or demand entitlements from your employer where does it end?

    Putting more and more chains on others, especially those you oppose, proverbial or real does not make us all freer or good-er. Quite the contrary.


  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    June 29, 2014 2:07 p.m.

    I see the liberals are out in full spin mode today. How ironic it is in this Hobby Lobby case that they scream about "freedom" from oppressive bosses but don't utter a peep about oppressive government.

    Just why is that?

    As far as the unjust Justice Roberts: The Founding Fathers would like to have a few words with that guy....and it won't be pretty.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    June 29, 2014 10:11 a.m.


    You presume without any evidence that they have a hidden motive other than their religious belief. Lots of people think that contraception is immoral and many of them believe this because of their religious views. I don't agree with that view, but I am open-minded enough to respect diversity.

    If we were talking about evolution or dinosaurs or something and a rabid creationist (I know someone in this forum who is like that) came on and starting talking about Adam and Eve and 6000 years ago and six days, etc, I would not give their views on that topic (and any views on any other topic for that matter) much credibility.

    Everytime we talk about Hobby Lobby and the contraception mandate, there are some people who have this presumption that because Hobby Lobby is Christian that therefore they have these sneaky motives because they are trying to get out of something. People with that view are stumbling over their stereotypes and those stereotypes don't belong in an intelligent discussion any more than strict creationism belongs in a lot of discussions.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    June 29, 2014 9:16 a.m.

    This case has nothing to do with religious freedom. The Green family is free to believe whatever they want and worship however they want. What is being contested is their ability to impose their (fallacious) so-called "religious" beliefs on their employees in violation of the laws they agreed to obey and follow when they acquired their business license. To get that license they had to agree to follow the laws controlling businesses in the various jurisdictions in which they wish to operate (including federal laws an regulations); they are trying to set themselves above the law and say they only have to follow the ones which they are willing to follow. They are trying to put themselves above the law. Hopefully the Supreme Court will see through their tactics and rule against them.

    In fact, accepting their argument concerning the effect of the morning after pill, ella, IUD etc. (with which opinion science and medicine do not necessarily agree) those products do not "abort" pregnancies. They merely do what "Mother Nature" does concerning between a third and a half of all fertilized eggs -- keep them from implanting and, therefore, keep pregnancies from starting.

  • Mr. Smitty Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2014 9:02 a.m.

    Religious freedom should never include the right to decide insurance policies. What if a CEO of a corporation doesn't believe in blood transfusions? Does this mean the CEO has a right to provide refuse to allow their insurance to pay for their blood transfusions? You are free to believe as you wish, but not free to control others based on your beliefs. Hobby Lobby wants to control people through their beliefs by making it more difficult for women to get contraceptions. Employers shouldn't make birth control their business.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    June 29, 2014 7:59 a.m.

    According to Megyn Kelly of Fox News, this is really not an issue of "birth control". It is all about using abortion as a form of birth control. Hobby Lobby rebelled against "abortio-factants" and not against birth control. They accepted something like 20 of 21 issues in regard to birth control.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    June 28, 2014 9:41 p.m.

    This one is easy to predict. Hobby Lobby and others will be told to cowtow to the Dear Leader, for he reigns supreme. They will be told that their religious freedom isn't important, so shut up and be a good little conformist. It will be another nail in the coffin for religious freedom in this country.