Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

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  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 23, 2014 7:54 p.m.

    The biggest supporters of so called 'christian values', an oxymoron if there was one, are usually why I don't believe in them, and why the entire concept was left out of the constitution. These people are nothing more in intent than ISIS.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    June 20, 2014 1:06 p.m.

    Me thinks Rubio has a different set of "Christian Values" than say....Christ did.

    The crusaders and inquisitors had a version of Christianity that is more inline with conservatives, what with all the wars, wanting for more wars, torture, xenophobia, & the firmly held belief that all other religions are an abomination and threat to their version of a religion/control.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 20, 2014 9:27 a.m.

    How ludicrous is this?!? The fact that Rubio invokes "Judeo-Christian" values is nothing but pandering, indicating no understanding of what is being said. "Judeo" is not a term for Christianity.

    @ Loconic, Obama is not a Muslim, practicing or otherwise. This is the kind of stuff that is getting beyond old. Christians saying stuff like this defies the principles of Christ. The old adage goes, "By their works ye shall know them", and by saying like what you said shows that many who say they are Christian are in fact not Christian.

    Finally, the assertion that the Constitution is a religious document is absurd. I will go along with the idea that it is divinely inspired, but that does not make it holy writ, it does not make it perfect, it does not make it a holy document. To people like "the truth", please get some perspective and a little education on the history of the Constitution other than faith-based charlatans who are seeking to make a buck from selling a course.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 20, 2014 7:43 a.m.

    Hamoth -

    "But why make the same error yourself with your conclusion? "

    . . . Not the same error . . . just a little sarcasm

    Think of it as satire.

    It's a reaction to the startlingly senseless actions of "Conservatives" who heap transparently ridiculous criticisms on Obama and other Democrats.

    Rubio's criticism was ridiculous, as in worthy of ridicule.

    It's interesting, isn't it, how many "Conservatives" base their opinions around completely ridiculous notions.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    June 20, 2014 6:48 a.m.

    @the truth 6:09 p.m. June 19, 2014

    God is mentioned nowhere in the Constitution. Religion is mentioned twice, both in ways that works to keep it out of government -- in Article VI which states that no religious test shall ever be required as a test for office and in Amendment I which allows people to worship as they choose but prevents the government from an establishment (an act of establishing) religion. Jefferson underscored the effect of this provision by describing a wall between church and state.

    While some of the Founders were followers of a Christian faith, an even larger number were Deists (who believed there was a Creator but followed no particular faith). In fact, the US Constitution is based on English common law, as anyone who had really studied the Constitution would know.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    June 20, 2014 6:38 a.m.

    @Loconic 3:00 p.m. June 19, 2014

    I read your commeent looking for even a tiny scintilla of truth. Sadly, none was to be found.

  • Hamath Omaha, NE
    June 20, 2014 5:56 a.m.

    @ Gary O

    Good point. Cruz's broad jumps in logic to paint the Obama administration in this light was almost silly. But why make the same error yourself with your conclusion? Just like it makes Cruz look untrustworthy, so it lessens your ability to sway independent voters.

  • Laura Bilington Maple Valley, WA
    June 19, 2014 11:20 p.m.

    Loconic, what are these "Muslim values" that Obama is going to defend?

  • Laura Bilington Maple Valley, WA
    June 19, 2014 9:15 p.m.

    The writers of our Constitution certainly did follow the Bible. They made precise judgments about how much to value a slave in tabulating the total number of people in each state. Then our good Southern congressmen used the Bible as justification for maintaining slavery.

    Now in modern times, our Republican congresspeople ignore the admonition in the Bible to take care of the weak, the sick, and the disadvantaged. And they surely ignore the condemnation of hypocrisy, as they argue that the sick (but not themselves) will somehow be better off without medical insurance.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2014 7:24 p.m.

    Our Constitution is not based on the Bible and the Bible is never mentioned in it. It has nothing to do with religion. I get a little tired of the right using the Constitution for their own purposes while it has nothing to do with anyone's religious beliefs.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    June 19, 2014 6:09 p.m.

    @Mark B

    The whole constitution is based on Judeo-Christian values. Every aspect, every item was based on something from the bible.

    Writings and communications of the founding fathers confirm this quite clearly.

    I believe t4he success our constitution and our country has had for as long as it has was directly because of it basing on Judeo-Christian values and principles and respecting God.

    Obama has been administrating by ignoring and even trampling on the constitunion and the rule of law, and ignoring our judeo-christian basing. Which has not only put our country in the situation it is in, but the whole world.

    You cannot ignore God and principles he has given us, and expect good things to happen.


    Your comparison is just completely nutty, without foundation or common sense. And funny since it is Obama and his administration that is supporting such radical islam.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 19, 2014 4:42 p.m.

    “Cruz highlighted what he called failures in the Obama administration that allowed attacks on Christians abroad, particularly in the escalating violence across Iraq.”

    Huh ???

    So that must mean that the almost one thousand Christians killed in Lebanon in 1990 was all Bush Senior’s fault?

    Jeeez ! . . . . Why can’t Republicans do anything right?

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    June 19, 2014 4:19 p.m.

    I'm not against Christian values, but just how does "defending Christian values" get mentioned in the Constitution? After all, many posters here insist on basing all administrative decisions on some kind of constitutional footing. One thing it doesn't include, however, is a requirement of having a Christian president.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    June 19, 2014 4:01 p.m.

    This is what makes the right wing EXACTLY like the Taliban.

  • Loconic Alpine, UT
    June 19, 2014 3:00 p.m.

    Since Obama has spent the majority of his life as a practicing Muslim (even saying their prayer chant is the most beautiful sound he's ever heard), he's much more likely to defend Muslim values than Judeo-Christian values.

    I don't recall him ever defending Christian values in any setting. In fact, it's been quite the opposite. That's the reason so many Christian groups have been forced to bring legal lawsuits against him and some of his laws and policies. They are often anti-Christian in nature.

    Rubio is spot-on.