California rampage sparks reflection on violence against women, guns, mental health

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 29, 2014 9:08 a.m.

    Some reasons for these shootings:

    * break up of the traditional family, and its values
    * mental illness
    * lack of morals, and conscience broadcast through out the entertainment industry.
    * effects, and stress, stemming from corrupt political leadership

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    May 29, 2014 8:10 a.m.

    Until mental health professional can reliably predict who is going to commit violent crimes such as this, things are unlikely to change. Adding alcohol and drugs to rage can create an explosive combination. Restricting access to firearms is a start, but cars, knives, and other readily available potentially dangerous devices pose a greater challenge.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 28, 2014 9:51 p.m.

    Instead of realizing that no laws proposed by liberals would have prevented any of this, instead lets continue to blame the current gun laws for every death involving a gun, as if changing the laws would prevent these things(it wouldn't)

    This guy did it all legally and didn't use any military style weapons that liberals propose banning or making it more difficult to obtain.

    And until someone can tell me how they're going to put together a list of all "border-line" crazy people who should never have a gun, talking about spending more on mental health doenst hold any weight.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 28, 2014 5:36 p.m.

    Amazing logic on display.

    A crazy guy who had been in therapy for fifteen of this 23 years premdetates multiple murders, and while all this is going on has three contacts where local cops visit him and decide he is no threat.

    Then, he finally snaps, and uses a knife to murder three people, before hopping in his exotic car, and drives along trying to hit people, and also kills three more with guns.

    So, instead of looking at the very serious (and likely uncurable) mental health problems, or demanding knife control, or keeping crazy people from driving 2,500 pound guided weapons, everyone leaps on "more gun control" as a solution.

    Short of a total gun ban, their ultimate goal, what "common sense measures" do these people think might have stopped this? Background checks, gun rationing (one a month), high capacity magazine bans, waiting periods? California already has all that stuff.

    What they do not have, is locking up crazy people. Even after 15 years of therapy and three visits from cops.

    Best we can do is at least allow potential victims to defend themselves.

  • slcdenizen Murray, UT
    May 28, 2014 2:53 p.m.

    @Robert Riversong

    Ideology: inherent right to own a gun.
    Non-ideology: our children are murdering each other with guns and their sale and ownership should thus be more regulated.

  • Robert Riversong Warren, VT
    May 28, 2014 1:40 p.m.

    The Isla Vista Rampage & The Abuse of Tragedy for Ideological Agendas

  • slcdenizen Murray, UT
    May 28, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    This type of shooting is occurring so often, it's giving us as a people the chance to reflect on a regular basis. Unfortunately we just reflect on how poorly we are able to address our collective problems. Instead of make common sense solutions, I suggest we pray about our problems and see what happens.