Massachusetts: Pledge of Allegiance not religious

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  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    May 14, 2014 7:25 a.m.

    Why don't the athiests in schools cry foul about Muslim kids being given some special time and space to pray on a daily basis? That seems to me to be much more of an accomodation to God by public schools than just saying "God" in the pledge, or calling it an Easter or Christmas break.

  • Brent T. Aurora CO Aurora, CO
    May 13, 2014 5:24 p.m.

    Best course of action is to amend the US Constitution to say we are a Christian nation with tolerance extended to those with other beliefs who live here -- which is what I assumed was meant from the beginning of this nation. What certainly was not meant was that we are as a governed nation, atheist. Our national religion is NOT atheism.

    There is no absolute proof that God either exists or that He (She/It) doesn't. The belief that there is no God is in itself a religious point of view just as is the belief that He/She?It does exist.

    And no, as a Christian I have no problem at all joining in the prayers, holidays, traditions and ceremonies of other religions, cultures, immigrant nations, preferences... it's called diversity and it should be embraced by schools, municipalities and groups to be inclusive. In short, mine is prerogative to quietly ignore the meaning and behavior, with an interest towards learning, of those things which I do not believe in... with tolerance and dignity extended.

  • Hank Jr Draper, UT
    May 12, 2014 9:19 p.m.

    There is still hope for America.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    May 11, 2014 6:48 a.m.

    The irony is that the SCOTUS' decisions are that words and phrases alluding to god, and prayers in public meetings, are allowable because they are meaningless and everybody knows it.

    A hollow victory for the believers.

  • gmlewis Houston, TX
    May 10, 2014 11:15 a.m.

    I always considered the "under God" words to be more historical than religious. During the founding of this nation, the first Americans considered this to be possible only through the assistance of God. Therefore, we are "one nation under God," or in other words "one nation by the help of God."

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 9, 2014 1:32 p.m.

    Wow, a common sense ruling even from the People's Republic of Massachusetts! Will wonders never cease?

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    May 9, 2014 1:01 p.m.

    Another loss to a ceremonial non-entity. Oh well. We do much better with real things.

    On to another day!

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    May 9, 2014 11:58 a.m.

    An easy solution to the impasse is for those who prefer the pre-1954 version of the Pledge to use that earlier version in group recitations of the Pledge. Then neither side is imposed upon, not that anyone should expect it to put an end to the fight.

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    May 9, 2014 11:45 a.m.

    While I believe this is common sense, I'm still glad with this decision by SCOTUS.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 9, 2014 11:46 a.m.


    And I'll do the same, with modification, next time you ask for tolerance from conservatives and then don't respond in the same manner.

  • Jeremy234 SLC, UT
    May 9, 2014 11:41 a.m.

    Chris B: No, there is no way to spin it that liberals aren't right on this issue.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 9, 2014 11:41 a.m.


    I'm going to cut and paste your words, with some modifications, into a comment when same sex marriage becomes the law of the land.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    May 9, 2014 11:37 a.m.

    Discriminate against atheists? Really? I have to wonder if John Adams and Thomas Jefferson and other founderes were worried about offending or discriminating against atheists when they formed the language in our constitution - the language that references God and trust in God and dependence on God etc... I don't think so. Today EVERYBODY is offended or so they claim. How can the United States have ANY identity at all if it has to dumb down its laws to be so generic that we stand for nothing? If we stand for nothing we become nothing and we lose everything we have fought and died for....every freedom and everything good thing that made America the shinning city on a hill which came to the aid of millions who were threatened with extermination via the Nazi's or Communists.

    I say this - America is a Christian nation and the MAJORITY are Christians. We CHOOSE to live this way as a majority. If the "offended minority" hate Christianity then either deal with it or LEAVE!! The world is a BIG place and I'm sure you can find a place to live where there is not freedom and atheism reigns supreme...

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 9, 2014 11:33 a.m.

    Great news!

    With this and the prayers being upheld by the supreme court, its nice to see liberals being told
    "you're wrong, deal with it"