Fed report: Warming disrupting Americans' lives

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  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    May 8, 2014 9:06 p.m.

    So what does that teach us then, worf? Not to listen to politicians and athletes when it comes to issues of science. Also it is not wise to listen to pundits in matters of science, nor people that have gut feelings or say they know because they claim to have common sense. Oh yeah, and don't listen to people that comment on message boards of newspapers. So then who should we listen to? Obviously the researchers that study the issue. And they say AGW is real, it's a problem, and the impacts from it are occurring right now, and most likely will get worse in the future.

    So yes worf, don't listen to politicians, listen to the people who study the issue.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 7, 2014 5:16 p.m.

    An athlete can get on TV and endorse a product he knows nothing about.

    People will believe and buy. Some athletes do this for thirty millions dollars, and the product company still makes a ton of money, because people believe the athlete, whether he knows the product or not.

    The same can be said of politicians. Make one popular, and people will believe the words coming from their mouths. It's crazy.

    If a politician say cows cause air pollution, or driving pick-ups causes earthquakes, there are those who would believe. LOL.

  • jjtotten Washington, UT
    May 7, 2014 3:31 p.m.

    Vera: I guess I need a little more info concerning your call about or cracked, and continuing to crack, table.

    Was this to be an instore refund or something else?

    Regards John Totten

  • TimBehrend Auckland NZ, 00
    May 7, 2014 8:19 a.m.

    I'm impressed by the high level of meteorological knowledge displayed in comment after comment by readers who have skimmed self-confirming blogs and industry ad copy. Why can't scientists in every country of the world have your same level of a priori certitude?

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    May 7, 2014 7:04 a.m.

    If there is global warming does anyone really believe that we, the Human race can do anything about it? There have been many warmings and coolings in the past, and the Human race was not even around or involved with it. The planet will do what it wants in spite of our presence here. And if we put too much junk into the air, or ocean, ect. the planet has a way of balancing the books.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    May 7, 2014 6:26 a.m.

    The climate has never been static. It has changed ever since the dawn of time. Sometimes things change for the better. Sometimes for the worse.

    I want clean air and water. I try to conserve energy when I can (for both environmental and economic reasons). But what disturbs me most about this whole "global warming" scare is that powerful people are trying to gain more money and power by scaring everyone into believing that drastic things will happen if we don't cave into their demands now.

    The truth is, we have no idea if giving them this money and power will do anything to help prevent change. Other than lining their own pockets and controlling our lives, they will do nothing to stop what is happening.

    We don't even know if a planet that is a couple degrees warmer in 100 years will be a better planet or a worse one. Politicians and scientists love to point out every bad thing on the planet and say it is because of global warming. They ignore all the good stuff and never attribute it to global warming. Why is that, I wonder?

  • donquixote84721 Cedar City, UT
    May 7, 2014 6:22 a.m.

    Not only is the Government using scare tactics, there is reason to believe that they are also creating the extreme weather.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    May 7, 2014 12:54 a.m.

    "I just can't support these "green energy" movements because they're so full of psuedo-science and naivety. Flooding was going to destroy the world almost two decades ago because of artificial global warming, "

    Janecmeyer, perhaps you can show us where anybody claimed "flooding was going to destroy the world." But while you are looking for that quote read this:

    "nearly 2 feet of rain fell on the Florida Panhandle and Alabama coast in the span of about 24 hours, the latest bout of severe weather that began with tornadoes in the Midwest."-NPR, Hundreds Rescued From Flooding In Florida Panhandle, by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, May 01, 2014

    "Two major tributaries of the Suwannee River -- the Withlacoochee and the Alapaha -- set new flood records earlier this week."- USGS, Historic Flood Crest Flows Down Suwannee River, 04/15/2009 2:32:33 PM

    "The Front Range of Colorado is reeling from the biggest—and probably most destructive—flash flood in the region’s history, thanks to a storm that dropped a year’s worth of rainfall in about 24 hours."-Everything that led to Colorado’s record-breaking flood, and why it will only get worse, By Eric Holthaus @EricHolthaus September 14, 2013

  • Archibald SLC, UT
    May 6, 2014 11:43 p.m.

    These same people advocated dumping soot on the polar ice caps in the 70's to melt them to avoid the coming ice age. All these predictions are based on computer models. Garbage in, garbage out.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    May 6, 2014 10:54 p.m.


    Of course we all care. Nobody wants polluted water or air. The problem with the climate change/global warming disciples is that they just are not believable. In the mid-1970s the dire warnings were about global cooling. Go look it up. It is uncanny how similar the language they used to describe global cooling is to the language they use now. But here are probably the biggest red flags that I see in this whole debate. Climate change believers have coined a new name for skeptics: deniers. And, in their minds, a denier akin to a Holocaust Denier (See Sir Paul McCartney's statements.) Secondly, they say "the science is settled. We don't have time for debate." The science is almost NEVER settled and especially on something like our complex climate. Finally, the biggest prophet of this new religion is Al Gore. That speaks volumes. He's a hypocrite politician who uses huge amounts of fossil fuels fly around on private jets and has at least two different homes. How can I possibly take him seriously?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    May 6, 2014 7:01 p.m.

    We all need to take some time to study this issue, myself included. Most of us are asserting out ideologies in this debate, rather than discussing the scientific merits of various points of view.

    I am getting pretty old. It's not going to make a whole lot of difference to me personally who's right. But what if the report is right? What kind of world will my posterity live in? Does anyone else here care?

  • Liberal Today Murray, UT
    May 6, 2014 6:15 p.m.

    I am surprised this report is coming out of this administration. In Obama's first inaugural address he told us he would heal the planet.

    We will be just fine. Obama is our man, and he is on it.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 6, 2014 5:57 p.m.

    Where is all this coastal flooding from melting icebergs? I've been hearing about it for forty years.

    If campaign promises were kept, we would have a seventeen trillion dollar surplus rather then deficit.

    No matter what our political leaders do, or say, many will not learn, and follow like sheep.

    This has happened through out history, and why over ninety percent have lived in poverty.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 6, 2014 5:40 p.m.


    Our country has problems because people believe things which are not true. Like sheep!

    This country is seventeen trillion dollars in debt because people believed the false rhetoric of campaign speeches.

    Only those who believe false propaganda, with no good sense, and reality, and choose to be guided by Left Wing "pundits" like Al Gore, will accept climate change. Pathetic!

  • Allisdair Thornbury, Vic
    May 6, 2014 2:54 p.m.

    And one day the Sheep look up.

    I like Concinnity comment "then until China agrees to join the rest of the civilized world in taking drastic action, then nothing else will count for much". Now lets look at this another way, China CO2 emissions per person 61781 compared to US 175043 (2010) I wonder how much of China's emissions come from filling containers bound for America, Europe etc?

    It is a bit rich blaming others without looking in the mirror first or Matt 7:5 Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

    Predictions for 2014/5 are settling on another Super El Nino like 1997/8, will the sheep look up then I wonder?

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    May 6, 2014 2:37 p.m.

    Hey Worf -

    "Are we a nation of sheep? "

    Only those who deny science, good sense, and reality, and choose to be guided by Right Wing "pundits" like Rush Limbaugh.

    What do "Conservatives" find so fascinating about that drug abusing sheep herder anyway?

  • Jamescmeyer Midwest City, USA, OK
    May 6, 2014 2:20 p.m.

    Every time there's any flooding or drought, or if any given season is colder or warmer than "average", or if the estimated sea level ever changes, it's because people are cooking with fires and burning coal. As soon as the greedy immoral Americans realize they're destroying the planet and stop flexing their economic muscles, the world will be saved.

    I like using resources wisely. I like making use of various energy sources, self-sufficiency, breathing clean air and drinking clean water. I care a lot about these things. I can't stand wasting my resources. But I just can't support these "green energy" movements because they're so full of psuedo-science and naivety. Flooding was going to destroy the world almost two decades ago because of artificial global warming, and since it hasn't, these government-funded studies keep revising the timing and symptoms to perpetuate fear and funding.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    May 6, 2014 11:44 a.m.

    I am losing my hair and going bald, probably also caused by man made global warming!

  • Thinkin\' Man Rexburg, ID
    May 6, 2014 11:37 a.m.

    They have confused weather with climate. Climate hasn't changed -- nothing going on is unprecedented or particularly unusual. This report is nothing short of an attempt to gather money and power into the hands of a few who feel they are "elite" and smarter and better than the rest of us.

    It certainly isn't science.

  • Concinnity Meadow, UT
    May 6, 2014 10:56 a.m.

    There is no question that global warming and cyclical weather patterns are happening. But like a sentence in the middle of this article states, "but it is still uncertain how much of that is from man-made warming."

    These types of short and long term weather pattern changes have been happening since before recorded history. And certainly long before mankind started using fossil fuels on a larger scale. But it's still difficult if not outright impossible to determine what percentage of it is caused by mankind and how much is caused by Mother Nature. That's where all the guesses and politically based posturing comes in. If someone has a related agenda, here's your chance to use activist rhetoric.

    Even if much of the current changes are people-caused (and I'm saying they are), then until China agrees to join the rest of the civilized world in taking drastic action, then nothing else will count for much. China is far and away the world's biggest polluter with a population 4 times bigger than the United States. India comes in second. But neither country has shown any interest in making economic sacrifices for the environment.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    May 6, 2014 9:40 a.m.

    "And then there's more pollen because of warming weather and the effects of carbon dioxide on plants."

    Oh my, if a drought happens its bad, but in the same breath, increases in plant growth is bad.

    Everything is bad according to this report. Heh, folks the earth has been warming for 10,000 years.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 6, 2014 9:13 a.m.

    More government control by scaring people on things which been occurring for thousands of years.

    More laws equals increased control, and poverty.

    Are we a nation of sheep?