Report projects health law's subsidies will cost $1 trillion over 10 years, instead of $1.2 trillion

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  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    April 15, 2014 12:01 p.m.

    Thid Barker -

    "Other independent analyses?" . . . Courtesy of some Koch-brothers-funded phony think tank?

    They are a phony, as are most of the "facts" Right Wingers use to support their arguments.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 15, 2014 8:55 a.m.

    Other independent analysis project the cost of Obamacare much higher, not lower. Some of the cost of Obamacare won't be really measured at all. For example, didn't we recently learn from Nancy Pelosi and other Demos, "Obamacare means people can quit their jobs".

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2014 8:48 a.m.


    That one really backfired on you didn't it? I love you you went on the offensive telling me to read the article when clearly I had done so. It was you who needed to read your own comment. But instead you tried to call me out, only to realize after the fact you should have slowed down a little and read your own comment.

    But like I said, you're not alone in not understanding differences between trillions, billions, and millions. Keep your chin up guy.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    April 15, 2014 7:28 a.m.

    Hey Chris and Crhistopher B - The difference between a million and a billion is a "b" and an "m."

    Typos happen. And you know what FT meant.

    Isn't that just like right Wingers? . . . Raising typos to levels of high significance while totally dismissing the substance of an argument.

    That kind of superficiality is symptomatic of "Conservative" America.

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:31 p.m.

    @FT - Don't feel too bad. Obama confuses his millions, billions, and trillions sometimes too. I mean, when you're spending other people's money, who cares right? You're not alone, don't worry.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    April 14, 2014 9:59 p.m.

    JiminSLC... your right, we should have showed the Chinese just home much we are just like them, and mowed down those protesters in their steps.... that would have gotten their respect... right?

    What in the heck people! We have been hearing this "ceiling is gonna fall any year now" thing for 6 years. Don't you remember Brother Beck and his dramatic rendition of just how high Gold will go, and how low the dollar will be - 5 years ago. All we had to do was go out and buy gold..... and all our future financial worries would end. Every year, we hear the same tired end of life as you know it predictions.

    The market will correct again in the future. And after that, it will take another run to new highs, and the cycle will play over and over again. And some snake oil sales man will make millions through scary prediction..... as will hundreds be elected.

    The political party out of power needs to scare people into voting for them. But the truth is, the dollar is still worth about the same, you still have your guns, and can still attend church.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 14, 2014 9:51 p.m.

    @ CB
    It's a typo but the direction of the post is correct. The annual deficit is falling and has continued to fall since the GOP train wreck led by Bush. That's a fact.
    It's also a fact that Obamacare has not added to the deficit.
    This independent (yes I have voted for many Republicans) may have made a typo but many conservatives have a problem with facts. Once again read the article, study the deficit, tax revenues as a % of GDP and you'll see that the last 5 years has not been as terrible as the right wing media has portrayed. Conservatives need to be a part of the solution instead of continuing to be a part of the problem.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 9:38 p.m.

    Yes, it will reduce the deficit and bring down health care costs.

  • freedomingood provo, Utah
    April 14, 2014 9:32 p.m.

    Sure, but forcing democracy on Afghanistan and Iraq was worthy of trillions of dollars?

    Letting Wall Street gamble cost us trillions more in GDP and tax revenues.

    Get your Christian priorities straightened up. Healing the sick is more worthy of sacrifice than revenge wars and gambling habits.

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 9:27 p.m.

    Doesn't matter much. The dollar is starting to lose world reserve status. When that happens nations will no longer have to keep their large dollar reserves and will start dumping it. The economy will collapse either this year, next at the latest. And we have folks like Harry Reid back in Washington making deals and selling land to Chinese corporations. You think China is going to accept repayment with worthless paper? The Chinese probably think the US govt. is inept because it backed down from a few protestors in Nevada.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 14, 2014 9:24 p.m.

    Projections are often low.

    If school students are held accountable for math scores,-our political leaders should be also.

    A deficit of $700,000 for every second of a year is unacceptable.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:57 p.m.

    And I used to think it was only barack that didn't understand the difference between a million, a billion, and a trillion. Good grief, no wonder we're in the financial position we are as a country.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:33 p.m.


    Read your comment. You do realize there is a difference between 500 million and 500 billion right?

    Again, like I said: Want to try that one again?

  • ute alumni SLC, UT
    April 14, 2014 7:47 p.m.

    Lovin the Barry groupies that think everything he does is fantastic. Sorry guys, the community organizer and his administration are pathetic.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 14, 2014 5:38 p.m.

    Read the article. The 2014 deficit is projected to be 492 billion. It was 1.2 trillion in 2009.
    "The new estimates of the health care law are contributing to a slightly improved overall deficit picture. CBO said in a separate report on Monday that federal budget deficits over the coming 10 years will be $286 billion less than estimated in February. This year's deficit would dip to $492 billion from the $514 billion figure cited two months ago."
    And yes, the health law help reduce the deficit because of tax hikes.
    Do you know that tax revenues as a percent of GDP or the lowest since the 1950's? BO has been much more fiscally responsible when it comes to deficits since any GOP president since Nixon.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    April 14, 2014 5:15 p.m.

    "Overall, however, the health care law reduces the deficit because of tax hikes"

    That's like me bragging about donating to my neighbor things I just stole from another neighbor.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    April 14, 2014 5:14 p.m.


    The deficit isn't projected to be under 500 million this year.

    Want to try that again?

    And the projected deficit this year will be higher than every single year for bush except for his last. Want to know the average deficits under the two presidents?

    Or would you rather we look solely at this year for barack and the last year for bush as indicative?

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    April 14, 2014 4:48 p.m.

    Huh. And "Conservatives" keep saying that Obamacare will be much MORE expensive than initially projected.

    It's not possible is it? . . . That "Conservatives" really don't know what they're talking about?

    It must be terrible to have one's cherished prejudices and opinions crushed by relentless reality . . . again and again. And yet, they persevere.

    I guess that's a sort of courage, isn't it?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:41 p.m.

    What conservatives don't understand is the act was created to be deficit neutral to the budget and everything up to this point and projected to be, indicates it has been. I totally understand if a conservative is opposed to the law on philospical grounds (the role of goverment) but there is no basis in fact to it adding to the deficit, or creating death panels, or collapsing Medicare, or numerous other right wing fabrications.
    Additionally, concering the deficit it continues to shrink from over 1.2 billion from Bush's last budget to under a projected 500 million this year.
    BO is going to go down as the greatest President since Clinton, who was the greatest since Kennedy. His success is irritating but one in which conservatives will have to grapple with for years to come.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:08 p.m.

    More bad news for opponents of the ACA and the efforts to destroy the legacy of BO. The right wing, faux constitionalists will have to create some more bogey man because it appears one of the greatest pieces of social legislation is on solid financial footing.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    April 14, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    For a guy whose added more to the national debt than almost every past president in the history of the country combined, whats another 1.2 trillion?