Town's regular moment of prayer is at the center of Supreme Court case

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  • Stormwalker Cleveland , OH
    April 2, 2014 10:39 p.m.

    @the truth:

    You are right, there are no laws against public prayer. There are, however, laws against public officials, acting in a public capacity, acting in a way that seems to endorse a particular religion.

    You support their prayer as a constitutional right. Do you support that right for others, as well? Would you support a Wiccan opening the meeting with a prayer to Goddess? Or a Muslim praying to Allah? Or member of the Asartu praying to the Norse pantheon? These are all legally recognized religious groups in America. Would you defend their right to open the meeting?

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    March 31, 2014 5:22 p.m.

    @Karen R.


    They are not obligated to follow any SECULAR law, just the LAW, and there is no law against public prayer and the congress can not make one. The founding fathers had public prayer, it is not unconstitutional

    And your last point is also irrelevant.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    March 31, 2014 6:39 a.m.

    @the truth

    "It is not the government praying, it is a person."

    The government IS people. When people convene in a governmental capacity, they are obligated to follow the secular laws so they are serving everyone. Superimposing their religious beliefs on top of this doesn't make them anything but tone deaf to those in the community that believe differently than they do.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    March 30, 2014 6:05 p.m.

    According to the founding fathers it is s quite constitutional, according to how they practiced the first amendment.

    It is not the government praying, it is a person. The people are free to exercise their religion even in public places.

    It is congress that must not abridge that freedom, interfere in exercise, nor play favorites.

    Why does the extreme left want the federal government micromanage every free community, AGAINST the constitution?

    It is all about control, and destruction of freedom and the institutionalized distrust of freedom of the people.

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    March 29, 2014 4:15 p.m.

    For Christians to insist that a government meeting begin with prayer makes about as much sense as for non-Christians to insist that a church meeting begin with some secular recitation.

    West Valley City gets it right. They begin their meetings with an opening exercise in which council members take their turn. They may choose to present a quotable quote, poetry, the Pledge, a prayer, a moment of silence, etc. It's up to the individual and it's free speech.

    If Christians would start acting a little more like Christians, maybe we could stop fighting over these church-state issues.

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    March 29, 2014 12:50 p.m.

    This is a no brainer. Even a 6th grader would knows that what this town is doing is unconstitutional.