Older Americans are early winners under Obama's health care law

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  • cval Hyde Park, UT
    Feb. 18, 2014 10:50 a.m.

    This article points out exactly why Obamacare cannot work in the long term. It helps only those who are most likely to face high medical costs. The plan was for healthy people to pay premiums to offset the high costs for unhealthy people. Since only unhealthy people will benefit, the others will find better deals through their employers.

    Who will pay for this? Those who Obama thought would pay are not opting in. The big problem with entitlements is that their will never be enough paying in to support those taking out over the long term.

  • riverofsun St.George, Utah
    Feb. 18, 2014 9:28 a.m.

    The ACA will be fine tuned over the years.
    The insurance companies devised their own demise.
    No more rejections for those who need health care, and were actually refused because it hurt an insurance company's profit margin for it's investors.
    The majority does not wish to return to the old system where people are cherry picked by some multi billion dollar health insurance company.
    The ACA is here to stay.
    It even rhymes!

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Feb. 18, 2014 9:09 a.m.

    Free health care for all! Nope. Free health care for some. Higher taxes for many. Higher premiums for many. Fewer choices. Greater Government control. Fewer freedoms. Government picks winners and losers. Your hard work, sacrifice, and intelligence will not be rewarded and will be heavily taxed.

  • U-tar Woodland Hills, UT
    Feb. 18, 2014 12:24 a.m.

    Such a great story. You get old, loose your Job during the Obama reign, then life is Rose's on Obama care. Wow, so much to look forward to, NOT. Attempting to sugar coat a Mess is not going to cut it, the vast majority of Americans know that it is going to be a train wreck.

  • swoop alumnus SLC, UT
    Feb. 17, 2014 11:58 p.m.

    everyone is a loser under barry's health care act. wait until older americans are told they are too old for certain procedures. thanks libs. but I wish you would start making instead of taking.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Feb. 17, 2014 11:43 p.m.

    Re: "Older Americans are early winners . . . ."

    Sorry, but as Obamacare quickly destroys the best, most effective, most efficient, most compassionate, health-care delivery system ever devised, there will be NO winners.

    Only losers.

  • Kathy. Iowa, Iowa
    Feb. 17, 2014 8:36 p.m.

    I am looking for someone to pay my new healthcare deductible of $10,000. It was zero so it has been raised 10,000% And now they don't pay anything until I pay my premiums and the $10,000. So it is not all flowers and rainbows.

  • southmtnman Provo, UT
    Feb. 17, 2014 6:22 p.m.

    You have to love (note sarcasm) the hypocrisy of the Righties:

    "...One nation, under God, indivisible..." except for healthcare, then it is every man, woman and child for themselves!

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Feb. 17, 2014 3:00 p.m.


    You wrote:
    "Someone has to pay for it and thus will NOT benefit!"

    ALL of us will pay! And we ALL will benefit. You see, this law doesn't change my health insurance. However, it benefits me, because we are investing in our families who do not have insurance. We as a community are taking responsibility for the community.

    I don't know about you, but I receive a lot of benefits when I see in my school, children and their families able to afford health insurance. The country benefits in having a healthier generation.

    At this moment thousands of people wait until they are so sick that have to go to the Emergency Room for treatment. Most of the people in this category don't have health insurance and cannot pay the ER bills. Who pays now? You, I and everybody else who pay taxes. Universal health allows for preventive care which in the long run will save billions of dollars to all of us.

    All industrialized countries have a Universal Health System, we in the United States are just catching up and have a long way to go.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Feb. 17, 2014 2:16 p.m.

    @ Baccus. You are completely wrong about Obamacare benefiting all of us! Someone has to pay for it and thus will NOT benefit! Only the subsidized will benefit. Millions of people who lost their insurance and those millions more who will now pay higher premiums, higher co-pays and higher deductibles will not benefit! So far, according to Obama, about 3.3 million people have signed up. Of those, the vast majority are older, sick people and people who are enrolled or have re-enrolled in Medicaid which is 100% taxpayer subsidized! 6 million have lost their healthcare insurance, so far and some number less than 3 million will benefit. So far, twice as many people have been harmed by Obamacare than those who will benefit. Hardly a "good" system.

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Feb. 17, 2014 1:56 p.m.

    "Now," Cadet said, "I'm not scared anymore."

    What a powerful statement. It makes very happy and proud that we as a country are moving toward a Universal Health system. The ACA will need some tweaking and that is good. The program should be in constant review and improvement for the benefits of us all.

  • Interloper Portland, OR
    Feb. 17, 2014 1:40 p.m.

    A clarification: Under the Affordable Care Act, all out-of-pocket payments count toward your deductible. So, your copayments and any prescription costs are included. People with low deductibles, like a couple mentioned in the article, will meet their deductibles in weeks or months.