Loose lips and string of apologies give ammunition to MSNBC foes

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  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2014 3:18 p.m.

    MSNBC and Fox. Two sides of the disgusting corporate media coin.

    And they make a lot of that coin because we, the people, like to hear viewpoints that are similar to our own. Cha-ching!

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Feb. 9, 2014 8:31 a.m.

    When I want news, I don't even consider MSNBC or Fox. In fact, I rarely consider them at all. Both are selling pretty nasty products. No thanks.

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Feb. 7, 2014 4:29 p.m.

    Article quote: "With increasing frequency many of your (MSNBC) hosts have personally denigrated and demeaned Americans — especially conservative and Republican Americans — without ever attempting to further meaningful political dialogue," GOP National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus wrote to him."

    What more can be added to this statement? Truth needs no embellishment.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 12:25 p.m.

    FOX news does not need to apologize.

    Why would an organization/propaganda arm of the Republican Party need to apologize when they never make mistakes?

    We Never Make Mistakes?

    Aleksander Isaevich Solzhenitsyn wrote two short novels under that same title describing life in Stalinist Russia.

  • nonprofiteer SLC, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 12:16 p.m.

    The right-wing media (hate radio etc) should be held to the same standards.

    If the right-wing media were to be held to the same standard, they would be required to apologize eternally.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 12:06 p.m.

    Ed Grady said

    "MSNBC and Fox are both useless." Ed, I've finally found common ground with you!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:54 a.m.

    LOL at the libs trying to defend the indefensible msnbc by making weak attempts at attacks on FOXnews.

    Now just to be clear I have personally never watched a single second of either station although I have seen plenty of clips from their shows on the internet and on regular news outlet's, but what I have seen is generally angry, snearing, ridiculousness from msnbc while much more civil and even humurous clips from the fox shows. I'm not sure if for some reason only the more civil fx clips are shown while the more ridiculous ones are not and if only the more ridiculous msnbc clips are shown while any sort of civil stuff is not but I can tell you that is what I have seen.

    But aside from that the things msnbc has been criticized for recently are race baiting incidents that are completely indefensible. I have never seen that from fox. That people on here are so desperate that they hope to make them equivalent in a weak attempt to justify that indefensible behavior then it is a definite reflection on which side is more worthy of respect and trust.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:45 a.m.

    MSNBC makes Fox News centrist by comparison. Had another station made the inaccurate and bigoted statements that are routine from Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc. the FCC would have shut them down.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:36 a.m.

    I shall give another example of discrimination. We celebrate black history month. Which I am fine spending time and learning about blacks that shaped America. The concern I have, is why do we not celebrate Polynesian History Month, White History Month, Native American History Month, Asian History Month, Latino History Month etc?

    It is discriminatory to celebrate one race and not celebrate the others.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 11:01 a.m.

    "Rachel Maddow's meticulous, fact-based criticisms of conservatives is looked upon as the network's model."

    Hmmm. "Fact-based criticism" would seem like a given. After all, what is the alternative? While I don't see Maddow's show as being a very good example of that, on the "Fact-based" continuum, it is probably the best MSNBC can use as a standard.

    In the end it appears that MSNBC may at least be starting to make an attempt at becoming "Fair and Balanced" as FOX has always been. I hope they succeed.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 7, 2014 10:52 a.m.

    MSNBC and Fox are both useless.

  • Anti Government Alpine, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 9:55 a.m.

    People try to draw analogies between MSNBC and Fox. Sure there are opinion shows on both but the difference is obvious. Fox often has opinion interviews with both sides. Fox does not make fraction of the supposed "errors" (intentional) that MSNBC does so they have far fewer instances to retract.

    In fact the President and Liberals have been invited on to Fox programs or offered to send in responses to refute...they do neither. Why would you not refute a claim or something you claim is untrue?

    Old example but nonetheless and example: Van Jones. Our own President had a declared Communist as an adviser. Think about that? He would still likely be an adviser today if it were not revealed on Fox News.

    Communist nations are our sworn enemy yet our President has one as an adviser?

    MSNBC spends its time reporting how intellectually inferior Christians are and how anything related to Republican ideology is flawed/fails. Then in the next segment they will preach "tolerance" for their liberal agenda. Huh?

    They only have tolerance for their own supposed intellectually superior ideals. In their view everyone else is too stupid to make their own decisions.

    MSNBC has zero credibility.

  • Cougar Blue 1 Henderson , NV
    Feb. 7, 2014 9:53 a.m.

    MSNBC is still on the air? Good to know. I don't think anyone has watched them other than a few pockets on the east and west coast. Their ratings have always been in the toilet.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 9:48 a.m.

    I dislike both Fox and MSNBC. Panelists and commentators on both are nasty and mean-spirited. Both stations have a single god: ratings. Both will apologize only if absolutely necessary.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 9:16 a.m.

    nbc is a joke of a "news" organization. The hypocrisy that comes out of the left wing networks and the minions that follow and worship at the alter of altered media is laughable. They like to point the righteous finger that anyone who opposes Obama is only because they are racists. There is no evidence of racism or proof. It's simply because they are "god" and get to decide who is racists and who isn't. And if you are a black person that opposes Obama, then you must be a "puppet" to the white man. Which to me is a very demeaning comment and full of hate and racism.

    Are there racists white people? Yes there is. Is there racists black people? Yes there is. Are there racists Latino's? Yes there is. Are there racists Asians? Yes there is. The list goes on.

    You will also notice that news agencies no longer claim to be an independent voice. That's because we can see through their lies. We do not depend on them for news. We talk to each other and find out the real story, rather than the scripted dialogue they want us to believe.

  • FT1/SS Virginia Beach, VA
    Feb. 7, 2014 9:08 a.m.

    I like hearing opposing opinion's against any President, it's how I reason my own thoughts and opinions. I can't stand the cheerleading by the networks when their guy is in the White House. During the Obama years I've watched FNC, during the Bush years it was MSNBC. I enjoyed watching MSNBC during the Bush years. Since Obama has taken office, MSNBC has supported Obama with vile, deception, hate, and evil as supported by Isaiah Chapter 32 in describing liberals. I no longer can stomach MSNBC. If a repub takes office in 16' I'll give CNN a try. Rachael Meadow is another Sean Hannity with opposing opinions. I only watch if their's a good guest coming on.

  • cocosweet Sandy, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 9:04 a.m.

    I gave up watching that channel. So very tired of partisan news. I don't watch FOX (ugh as well) either. I just want the news, no personal, slanted, biased opinions please. Give me BBC, they, for me, seem to be the best of the lot.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:59 a.m.

    Dear Bungalow:

    Please get your facts right. Neither Glenn Beck nor Sarah Palin were fired from Fox. And...Fox does apologize for mistakes. I have seen them do it many times. It's just that they are more professional and make many fewer mistakes. MSNBC has turned into a joke. It's too bad because they used to be good. I used to watch them all the time.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:55 a.m.

    Dear Esquire:

    A recent Pew study concluded that MSNBC had 85% biased content and only 15% straight news content. By contrast, the same study concluded that Fox had only 55% biased content and 45% straight news. That's quite a difference. MSNBC has become nothing more than an annex to the Obama White House.

    I used to watch MSNBC all the time until it took a hard turn to the left and became so nasty. I used to love Chris Matthews until he started to have chills run up his leg.

    MSNBC is in real ratings trouble and there is a good reason for that. People just aren't as stupid as they think.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:51 a.m.

    Dear Esquire:

    As recent Pew study concluded that MSNBC had 85% biased content and only 15% real news. The same study concluded that

  • boneheaded, but not a smidgen SLC, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:44 a.m.

    Your msnbc must be different than everyone else's. Apologies? Really. Discipline is based on public outrage. Mathews at one time seemed to have some decorum, but now he has none. Look at their ratings and you'll see that you are definately in the small minority.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:43 a.m.

    I enjoy political debate. When I have watched FOX News, there are typically several people with widely different points of view that all get to speak their mind. They have lively debates on air where each side gets to express their opinions.

    When I have watched MSNBC, it is typically a full panel of left wing liberals who collectively bash conservatives with no one challenging that stance. Lies, strawmen, and completely made up stuff gets reported as the truth with everyone on the panel nodding in agreement. That is why I seldom watch it.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:37 a.m.

    Hey, it's a left version of fox. It doesn't have to be news, or even truth. Just like fox.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:06 a.m.

    This article is about whipping MSNBC. Everyone knows it is a partisan alternative to Fox. Things get said that are wrong, b ut more that gets said is correct. Here's the thing. MSNBC will admit its mistake. They will apologize if they go too far. They will discipline their people. Compare that to Fox. It is even more partisan. It is well known that the entire day's programming is coordinated by Roger Ailes. Their people say truly off the wall things, make horrible mistakes, never apologize for them, and there is no accountability. In the end, this article is, I would bet, driven by partisan interests, and this paper, being a right wing organ, supports that mission. Please be up front about it.

  • ute alumni SLC, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 8:05 a.m.

    I, like most of Americans haven't turned on msnbc in years. Uninteresting hosts and their extremely liberal bias is nauseating. I only know that because I see clips of their idiotic statements. Their numbers are in the tank, more like a death spiral.

  • U-tar Woodland Hills, UT
    Feb. 7, 2014 7:54 a.m.

    Sorry excuse for a "News" organization