College football: National Signing Day coverage

See which players have signed with the Cougars, Utes and Aggies

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  • hobbes1012003 Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 8:48 p.m.

    If Utah's average star was .00000001 higher than BYU's, ChrisB would be praising the Pac-12 gods all day long and singing how much better Utah is over BYU. BYU beats them by a .07 star rating and he downplays that it not such a big deal. You just cant win with his logic.

    I am stoked about this recruiting class! BYU went out to recruit some higher profile kids and pulled in quite a few of them! cant wait for spring practice and on to the 2014 season! Go Cougs!

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 5:23 p.m.

    It would be interesting to know how much of the star ranking system is driven by who recruits athletes.

    If you look at the numbers, it's sure tilted towards the SEC. Seven of the top ten recruiting classes are at SEC schools (USC is the only PAC-12 team in the top 10 at #10).

    There were 30 five star athletes listed as committing to top 25 teams, 18 of those committed to SEC schools, only 2 to the PAC-12 (both to USC).

    And within the PAC-12, it really was a down year for Utah. There are 57 4+ star athletes committed to Utah schools, one of those is going to Utah. USC got 11, UCLA got 11 and Stanford 7.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Feb. 5, 2014 4:04 p.m.

    @ CB
    I am not arguing your point.
    I am just saying most credible sources, papers,and books use more than one source.
    I couldn't publish my papers referencing one source, it would be rejected (and I would lose scientific credibility).
    it would be 9 of the last 12
    10 of the last 12 is referencing basketball.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 3:48 p.m.

    Highland, UT

    It's all about performance on the field. Like 4 in a row and 10 of the last 12.

    That's gotta hurt.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Feb. 5, 2014 3:33 p.m.

    Congrats to the Utes getting DJ Law.
    That kid is crazy fast.
    Sounds like a little drama in his signing.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 3:27 p.m.

    besmart - 4 years in a row in recruiting
    4 yeras in a row on the field

    Think those are related?


  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 3:21 p.m.


    utah "fans" only reference rivals because rivals consistently over rates utah's recruiting classes in comparison to all the other sites. In fact utah alum "fan" homers are some of the principles at rivals so the bias is extraordinary although not the least bit surprising.

    A couple of years ago utah "fan" naval vet made a big deal in a post on here how "rivals is the ONLY recruiting site" he follows or references. Of course that is why. When you have utah homers running a site they are going to try to make it look like utah is doing well every year. The irony of that is that even they have utah's class ranked pretty low this year which would indicate to me that utah's class is even worse than they appear since rivals over ranks them every year. You can probably drop whatever ranking rivals has given them another 5-10 spots at least to get a true picture of what they got.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 3:14 p.m.

    @chris b

    You continue to spout this fallacy:

    "Highest average star for a class is still the best way to rank classes. Utah has won that 4 years in a row,"

    No they have not. BYU's class averaged more stars in 2010 and now again in 2014. utah's averaged more in 2011, 2012, and 2013. By BYU math that is 3 years, perhaps utah math is different? Do you guys just use an "about" rather than an actual sum?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 3:14 p.m.

    I agree with BeSmart. Espn only rates Barton 3 stars and also rates him lower but still 4 star. I honestly don't know why Bronco didn't go after him, and we may never know why, but I think he's pretty happy with the class he signed...four 4 star guys and a couple of good late additions including Nacua, which I thought CB was bragging about going to Utah a few weeks ago.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Feb. 5, 2014 2:51 p.m.

    @ CB
    Please reference other recruiting outlets.
    broad knowledge is a lot more impressive.
    Per scout Utah five year running average is a within a few percentage points. Same with Espn, and 247 sports. Rivals ranking is based on offers from power conference schools, other outlets have scouts.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 1:01 p.m.


    And thats why head to head is fun to look at it, but mostly irrelevant. Highest average star for a class is still the best way to rank classes. Utah has won that 4 years in a row, sometimes by up to .6 stars, which yes is quite a bit. There is a big difference on AVERAGE between a team of 2.4 stars and a team of 3.0 stars. This year byu leads by .07 per rivals currently. It would be the first win for byu over Utah in 5 years, on the field OR in recruiting. Although a .07 difference is hardly worth bragging about.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Feb. 5, 2014 12:58 p.m.

    Nice to see USU start to make a splash on the recruiting front, and nice to see Utah pull kids in from other places. Lots of speed in this class.


    Congrats on another February Championship!

  • T Murp Atlanta, GA
    Feb. 5, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    A fair and logical comment by Chris B. I agree with you that BYU would have wanted him, but I don't think that changes the fact that BYU did well head to head versus Utah this year.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 12:25 p.m.


    The only thing I'd add about head to head is why wouldnt bronco offer 4 star Jackson Barton who could have gone to almost any school in the country? Thats a win for Utah over byu even if Bronco didnt offer because he knew he wouldnt get him. And pleaes dont tell us he didnt want a local 4 star kid - every coach in the nation basically wanted him.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 5, 2014 11:41 a.m.

    All three of the “big three” Utah schools did fairly well in recruiting this year. USU got several players who had other quality D1 offers and their class ranking is in the top 100. Utah beat out several PAC12 opponents for some great athletes and ranked in the 60-70 range. BYU “widened” their net and got quality recruits from all over the country. They also ranked in the 60-70 range.

    There was much less head-to-head competition this year between schools as recruiting target areas have shifted dramatically over the last few years. However, BYU easily won the head-to-head in 2014. The beat Utah 4-1 (Kaufusi, Bushman, Fonua, Warner to Utah’s Christiansen), and beat USU 3-0 (Kaufusi, Kurtz, Cook). Utah beat USU 4-2 (Luavai, Hughes, Christiansen, and Barton to USU’s Tauteoli and Tukuafu).