RE: Bandersen,Your right, everyone taking Government welfare is lazy
and doesn't want to work. It's just that easy. Senior citizens,
mentally disabled, disabled, single mothers and fathers, war veterans, orphans
over the age of 18 and all the like are simply part of a "tyrannical
Government" scheme. And when we take away the Minimum Wage, welfare and all
Government programs designed to assist those lazy folks and they are wandering
the streets what would you have done with them?I would ask the next
time you drive down a paved road just cleared of snow, eat some food, drink some
water, enjoy a National Park, go to a clean hospital, visit a Courthouse, watch
TV, turn on your lights, basically not have the wild west in your back yard,
start your furnace and about a billion other things the patronizing, tyrannical
government does to make your life a whole lot easier just remember they are only
here to protect you and your rights. You really should travel outside of the
U.S to some third world countries and see how the lack of government is working
out for them.
Sid: I do want it both ways because My heart goes out to those who don't
want to work because the government needs them to be lazy and needy to grow
their product, which is government welfare and dependency! Government's
only responsibility is to protect me in my rights! The only hope is to deliver
the truth to the young and the poor, so they can rise to their potential without
the burden and restrictions of a patronizing, tyrannical government! Minimum
wage laws are a proven failure to fostering economic freedom and opportunity.
How is it the Government or the Minimum Wage responsible for you being forced to
purchase cheep Chinese product? Are you saying you can't spend essentially
what breaks down to pennies to purchase American? It's the
Unions/Presidents/Minimum Wage's fault? Quality costs folks.
I know some of you want your cake and eat it too but unfortunately you
can't get superior quality at an inferior price. That's where the
Chinese come in. I do agree with some of the posts above that
state the Minimum Wage was never meant to be a living wage. It was also never
meant to drive people into poverty either. I'm sure most of you who are
against a Minimum Wage increase are also the ones who complain about Government
Welfare. You want to know why we have so many people on welfare? Because at
$7.25 per hour it is a lot easier to live off the Government than it is to work
40 Hrs a week. Most of those folks are not lazy, their just taking the path of
least resistance. Sorry guy's you can't have it both
Not here: your post insinuates that I am giving the GOP a pass here. Not the
case. Have lived here long enough that I know that the Repuglicans are just as
good at taxing and spending as anyone.. I'm just pointing out an issue that
is very rarely addressed in the minimum wage argument. Higher minimum wage
equates to higher income taxes. What better way to increase tax revenues
without raising taxes. However, the article itself does have a
"D" very prominently in the title.... As far as more roads
and inversions...rather off topic, isn't it?
The minimum wage is zero. Always has been always will be. If I am an employer
why would I hire someone who could not produce more than I paid them? Answer:
I wouldn't hire the person nor would anyone else. Then they would make the
Mark B. Why do you think that China is now the manufacturing capital of the
world and the U.S. isn't? Our government has driven manufacturers over
seas by all the arcane rules, unions, and the minimum wage. I
don't particularly like buying stuff from China and always look at labels
to see if I can but from elsewhere but, the reality of the situation is, why
would I make a product here in the U.S. that would cost more to make here if I
can have it made in China or Bangladesh for much less and charge the same?
Simple economics 101. Until the business climate in the U.S.
improves and the government quits trying to re-distribute wealth, nothing will
change and we will have have to work in service related jobs forever.
Solution to minimum wage. Get off your butt, get an education, or vocational
training and make yourself marketable.The Democrats who tout
themselves as the "party of the working man" are only interested in
staying in power. They care less for the working man that Vlad Putin does.
Their pro-big goverrnment policies do more to harm the working man than anything
out there.A better and actually growing economy will do more for
those working at minimum wage to do better by finding better jobs.I
started at my job 23 years ago at $5.25, the federal minimum wage at the time.
I'm now making substantially more than that because I've worked at it.
I look at like this, minimum wages will NEVER go up In Utah. So all of you
that's crying wolf or that the sky is falling, have no need to worry
it's just not going to happen.@ Ned BC: Just who are the tax
and spenders are you referring to? If I have read the story that's on the
Trib. site it sounds like the GOP run government you have in Utah is looking to
raise tax's to build more roads in your state. And if that happens will it
also mean more inversion for the state? And how do's the tax and spenders
fit in with that? Please correct me if I am wrong.
In the history of the United States, federal minimum wage has been raised 29
times. None of those times succeeded in ending poverty. What makes you think
the 30th time will do the trick?
In economic theory there is what is called the wage/price spiral. Just by
seeing the name you understand what a continuous increase in wages will do to
prices and the inflation that will occur as a result, all in a continuous
pattern. While I don't subscribe completely to this theory, I do think
that a continuous increase in wages (tied to the CPI) would be disastrous, and
exactly what Big Labor wants.
Point to ponder: If minimum wage is raised, think of all the new tax money now
available to those pushing so hard for the raise. Suddenly, it makes sense why
the "tax and spenders" are such proponents.
The Democrats are once more appealing to the base fears of men, collecting
votes, and keeping the poor right where they want them, needing government
assistance. It is really quite amazing how these corrupt politicians collude so
often on issues of relatively little import to keep themselves in power,
maintain the status quo, and shine up the appearance of doing something good.
Even more amazing are the rich, mostly, ardent followers who support the
If the minimum wage is raised, employers won't be able to pay their bills.
This means that prices will go up and a lot of people will end up out of a job.
We've had the minimum wage a long time, and it has been raised many times.
Could anyone who objects so strongly to that practice cite a time when
employment actually DID go down as a result? If their theory is correct, there
should be plenty of real evidence, right?
Just another ruse used by the ruling class to assuage the underlings! Minimum
wage laws keep the poor right where the democrats want them, under their
patronizing wing while they work in their cush jobs and talk to their friends of
those greedy republicans, who aren't quite as selfish as them, but who will
sign off on it too, thus proving once again that their isn't a snails
difference between the two parties. Both love proposals that keep the poor
Since Utah is a state where an increase in the minimum wage would never be
considered by the Legislature, presumably all these other states will have an
incentive to move their minimum wage jobs here, right?That's
what we want here in Utah, right, more minimum wage jobs?
Since Americans vote with their wallets, what effects do you think higher
minimum wages will have on sales of goods made in China but sold here in
America? Obviously, higher wages makes goods made in the US less competitive
with imports from China and, darn it, there goes your job! Liberals love to
blame US corporations for loss of jobs and for income inequality but the truth
is, American consumers will not spend more money for goods made in the US!
Americans are voting with their wallets and American producers are losing the
elections in droves and made in China wins and American workers lose!
Dn subscriber is right. People need to value themselves. Why anyone would trade
their time for minimum wage is beyond me.
...if the minimum wage were automatically adjusted for inflation, wouldn't
that take another tactic out of the liberal agenda to convince voters that they
were looking out for their best interest? I think it would be wise to legislate
a realistic adjustment for inflation every year to a reasonable min wage just so
that Dems can't keep tossing this hand out on the table when they need a
Here in Washington State, minimum wage is $9.32 per hour and is adjusted
automatically each year for inflation. This automatic adjustment in state
minimum wage was passed by voter initiative many years ago. So far, the only
visible impact has been the loss of items on the 99 cent menu at fast food
places. While I agree that minimum wage should be adjusted for inflation each
year, I don't believe minimum wage should be (or was meant to be) a living
wage, and I don't believe large periodic large jumps in federal minimum
wage (i.e. going from $7.25/hr to $15.00/hr) is the way to go. Start with the
federal $7.25 minimum wage and adjust it each year to keep in line with
inflation. No need for drastic changes in wages that make it difficult for
businesses to adjust too.
Sadly, this cheap political gimmick will appeal to a large number of "low
information voters" who have not even the most basic understanding of
economics, job creation, or even "work."If $10 per hour is
good, why not $15? If $15 is good, why not $50 per hour? Heck, make it $100
per hour and we will all be rich!The minimum wage should be
eliminated entirely and the free market allowed to determine wages. If you
don't want to work for "$x" per hour, then don;t take the job. If
your skills and time will add value to an employer's product, they will pay
a fair wage, so that they profit as well.Look in North Dakota where
WalMart greeters and burger flippers are getting $18 per hour, and unemployment
is essentially zero. A booming economy raises wages. Government
mandates that drive up costs, but not productivity just kill jobs, especially
entry level jobs where people learn the basics of "work" and incentivize
automation or moving jobs out of the U.S. Sorry, Democrats, your
"minimum wage hike" schemes may win some points politically, but in
truth they hurt the economy and the very people you CLAIM to be helping.
I know that this will rankle some of you, but increases in the minimum wage HURT
those that work these types of jobs. If I, as an employer, hire you
for a low skill, low wage (usually entry-level) job, I really don't expect
that you will be here for a long time. You come to me to get experience working,
then move on to a job that is better paying and requires more skills.When the minimum wage is increased, I will hire fewer workers to get the job
done, or I will automate some of the positions that are currently staffed by a
person. Because of competition, I cannot just raise my prices to cover the
increased costs. The money for wages is a finite amount, and I will do what is
needed to stay within my budget.Increases in the minimum wage cause
more people to be unable to find an entry-level job, and causes increases in
unemployment rates, usually among the youth that work these types of jobs.
I'm sure we'll hear more of the right-wing anti-minimum wage scare
tactics. The facts are that the opinion generated ideas that a higher minimum
wage will "cost jobs" and increase prices are simply not true. Major
studies in the last 15 years have shown that higher minimum wage infact help the
economy.The Myth of Job Loss has been skewered by studies by Paul Krugman
(Princeton)"the great preponderance of evidence points to little or no
negative effect" and from Bloomberg News "a wave of new economic
research is disproving those arguments about job losses and youth
employment". There are a great number of economic studies showing that a
higher minimum wage will help everyone.Minimum wages have lost 20%
of their buying power to inflation since the mid 60's. The adjusted minimum
wage would have be $21.00 to have the same buying power it did in 1968!