Lawmakers say Obama surveillance idea won't work

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  • aceroinox Farmington, UT
    Jan. 20, 2014 3:18 p.m.

    @Mike Richards--
    Make no mistake: I AM concerned about the NSA, just wondering why we're not concerned about all the private entities who collect data in considerably more depth and breadth. As we know, the NSA has been able to persuade cell phone providers to relinquish their users' data. What is to prevent the NSA from doing the same with Google, FaceBook, Apple, Microsoft, Comcast, etc?

    What I enumerated earlier is only the tip of the iceberg. Google sent photo vehicles down the world's streets, photographing every home, and while in the neighborhood capturing all the unsecured data it could find on home networks. Through Google Books it knows which books we read, through Google Finance it knows our stock portfolios and various financial accounts. It not only stores our documents, photos, music, etc. on Google Drive, it scans them and analyzes the content. It knows our relationships and group affiliations through Google+ and our viewing habits through YouTube. Imagine all that in the NSA's hands! For all we know, they may already have exercised their authority to harvest all that data from Google and the other entities I mentioned.

  • OlderGreg USA, CA
    Jan. 20, 2014 2:20 p.m.

    Frankly, I'm surprised that Senator Feinstein said anything at all, considering his proposals only change the clothing (i.e external appearance) of the NSA critter. The behavior and root issue were not touched at all.

    Senator Feinstein is a major cheerleader of the Patriot Act and its offspring.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 20, 2014 1:15 p.m.


    Google cannot tax us. Google cannot send the IRS after us if it thinks that we're not following the "party line". Google cannot send us to jail. We can sue Google if Google uses information against us. We cannot sue the Government if Obama decides that his community organizers should ferret out those who find fault with him and then use the full power of the government to harass them as he allowed the IRS to do when "conservatives" wanted the same privileges to promote their candidates as Obama's brother George had when George collected money to promote Obama.

    Any citizen should demand that Obama obey all of the laws all of the time or they may find that the hand that feeds them today will strike them tomorrow.

  • aceroinox Farmington, UT
    Jan. 20, 2014 11:22 a.m.

    It puzzles me why Americans are so concerned about the NSA having access to their phone records, and yet are not concerned about the level of intelligence that Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, et al have on every electronics user in this country. For example, if you have an Android phone, or have enabled Google Location Services, Google knows where you are at any time, and records that info. Ever wondered how Google Maps knows the speed of traffic on roads and freeways? They track every phone traveling those roads. That tracking doesn’t stop when you arrive at your destination. They know where your worship and how long. They know where you shop, how long, in which aisle you lingered and did a Google search for certain products, and now with Google Wallet, they know what you bought after that activity. They know who you call and how long you talk. Even if you don't own a cell phone, if you use gMail or Google Search, all that (including message content) becomes part of your Google "dossier".

    But then, we trust Google, right? Surely they have our best interest at heart.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 20, 2014 10:37 a.m.

    When the CEO of America proposes that the 4th Amendment be made null and void, that government, or someone appointed by government, should have the "right" to violate our 4th Amendment protection against search without a warrant signed by a judge after being presented probable cause, that date should be collected on our private conversations, then that CEO has violated our trust and his oath of office.

    No excuse from Obama can ever repair the damage that he authorized. He has lost our trust and he has lost the trust of people world-wide for abusing power that was entrusted to him.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 20, 2014 8:37 a.m.

    I'm shocked that what barack is proposing wont work. Just shocked.

  • David King Layton, UT
    Jan. 20, 2014 8:37 a.m.

    It's frustrating to see commenters here who can't see anything outside the Republican vs. Democrat spectrum. Although President Obama's proposals fall well short of what is needed to restore the Fourth Amendment to its rightful place, they are small steps in the right direction.

    Blame for NSA spying belongs not just to this president or his predecessor, but to the majority of our two major parties, and to every citizen who believes that the government needs to violate our rights against unreasonable searches and seizures to keep us safe.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Jan. 20, 2014 8:28 a.m.

    Of course its not going to work, you actually believed him?? Might be time for Congress to step up and act like the legislative third of the government.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Jan. 20, 2014 7:55 a.m.

    I hope it works better than Obamacare, the bailouts, the "shovel ready stimulus", redistribution of wealth, the abandonment of Iraq, the IRS targeting, fast and furious, all the Benghazi cover-ups, the late DOMA, the weak economy, the decline in the middle class, the doubling of food stamp recipients and the explosion of the national debt. If not for our sakes, then for our grandchildren's!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 19, 2014 11:41 p.m.

    Has anything Obama done worked out?

  • Northern Logan, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 11:37 p.m.

    How about just don't spy on Americans. We understand that safety and security is an illusion and that the best you can hope for is to protect yourself.

    Not willing to give up liberty for the illusion of safety.

    I accept the risks, I would rather die standing than live on my knees.