GOP infighting fierce even in Western strongholds like Utah and Idaho

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  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    Republican party 'takes back America' by reclaiming the House in 2010.

    Fast forward to 2013, only a 9% approval rating for congress.

    You built that.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Nov. 18, 2013 3:28 p.m.

    This is like watching the Varsity and Junior Varsity teams slug it out,
    and after beating each other up over who has the "real" or the most School Spirit,

    They try to kiss and make up while on the bus headed across town for the REAL game.

    Only to get mashed and hammered by a team who doesn't care what they did amongst tmeselves to get ready before the big game.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    Yes there is a division in the GOP. You have the Tea Party with ideas that are actually different from the Democrats, and you have the John McCain type dinosaurs that only remain in office because they are incumbants. They keep losing the big races and offer nothing different from the Democrats.

    So, who should the GOP listen to? Those that offer a true alternative to the Democrats or those that are just watered down versions of the Democrats?

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:36 a.m.

    A quick review of the 2012 GOP Platform will reveal that Lee and Cruz are in sync with the party.
    The old money GOP is not.
    So...who REALLY speaks for Republicans?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 7:09 p.m.

    Division, to our enemies.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    It;s a battle for soul and future of the Republican party.

    It's a battle between the old guard liberal establishment versus the new conservative.

    It's a battle between the big government progressives versus the small government constitutionalists.

    Let's hope the true conservative constitutionalists win or its over for the GOP.

    They are the only ones offering a viable alternative to the extreme left.

  • RBB Sandy, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    The Tea Party crowd recognizes that simply having an R at the end of your name does not correlate with a small government approach. Federal spending doubled between 2001 and 2010. For most of that period, the Republicans controlled the Presidency and at least the House. Of the $17,000,000,000,000 we have in federal debt, $16,000,000,000,000 was added while Orrin Hatch was a senator.

    It is simply immoral that we are handing our children a country deeply mired in debt. Every child born comes into this world owing almost $60,0000.00. We need to return to the day where Americans pay their own way and stop looking for Uncle Sam to take care of them.

    There are three choices: 1) Vote Democrat and go over the cliff with the accelerator pushed to the floor. 2) Vote for the Hatch/McCain/Graham Republicans and go over the cliff on cruise control, or 3) Renew small government conservatism and avoid handing our children a bankrupt welfare state waiting to take every penny they make.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 3:38 a.m.

    The GOP establishment of the Washington politicians are getting what this country needs, change. Massive, unadulterated change that will set the GOP into such chaos they can't function at all. The mainstream Democrats and Obama in Washington could see through their veil of deception and selfish greed and used this chaotic weakness to destroy their ability to be a threat to whatever laws and bills the senate would set forth.

    In a panic the GOP has passed the unconstitutional senate law to try and fix this ACA yesterday rather than repeal it. This law is somehting the GOP has been trying to get place on the books for over 50 years, now they won't let it be repealed. Its why GOP jumped on the senate law changes delaying mandating business pay too. The fact is the ACA has to be repealed.

    New generation of GOP to serve the people are speaking out against corporate industry trillion dollar profit plans to eliminate shared health care insurance plans. Its why corporate amreica hates that people are getting a voice in Lee and Cruz and Chaffetz, etc. challenging GOP and pocket politicians serving the rich in state and federal labor laws.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 1:20 a.m.

    "He's the one who rocked Republican circles in 2010 by ousting U.S. Sen. Robert Bennett in a state party convention".

    No, Sen. Lee almost was eliminated by the convention, it was Tim Bridgewater that had 57% of the delegate vote at convention. Mike Lee won by a very slim margin in a Primary against Tim Bridgewater, where Bridgewater had been endorsed by Bob Bennett.

  • endoftimes ,
    Nov. 16, 2013 8:08 p.m.

    Well, well, well. After all the mainstream hit pieces on the positions of Mike Lee and Ted Cruz regarding obamacare, it's obvious they know what is at stake - the loss of our country as we know it. The colossal failure and incompetence of the current administration in Washington will destroy all that our predecessors worked and died for the last 200 plus years. Turns out that Mr. Lee and Cruz know the socialist goals of the left. This is not just about health care. Societies and governments throughout history have held the "little people" down and in their places, while royalty and elites celebrate their domination. The poor in our country enjoy simple amenities of life, not just food and housing but television, web access and many simple things that people of old and third world countries can only dream of. With a stroke of a pen and a so called healthcare bill that wasn't even read by our so-called leaders, all may be lost. We are so spoiled our children don't fathom what life will be like if we don't stop this madness. GOP infighting? Most of them are libs as well.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Nov. 16, 2013 6:23 p.m.

    The odd thing about all this is hearing Democrats and Republicans cast aspersions upon a movement that supposedly is just a fringe element when it is quite obvious that is represents a pretty big swath of the electorate. No one even had heard of the Tea-party until five years ago! The fact that the media and Tea-party haters continue to mention it in derogatory terms only certifies that exist and aren't going away! Rather than even recognize it, establishment republicans stick their heads in the sand, go back to Washington, and do more of the same, something most Americans, including Tea-party elements, refuse to go along with. After watching Republican and Democrats show their ability to destroy the American dream, is it any wonder that any citizen, Tea-party or not, have had enough. People want the truth and integrity and living by the Constitution. Who would be against that? Evidently, most of our current politicians. How can you declare you love country, family, and God, then vote for everything that destroys it and still expect support? Only the ignorant, uneducated, or the naive would do so! Go Mike Lee!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 16, 2013 6:08 p.m.

    The GOP has lost itself, and in the process its' capability to govern, in an internal struggle of ideology versus ideas. I'm not particularly enamoured with what the democrats have done lately, but the GOP is not a viable alternative.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 16, 2013 5:46 p.m.

    The go along to get along crowd are a dagger in the heart of conservativism.......the Hatch/McCain/Graham crowd are the GOP of the past..........there is a new sheriff in town and it's Mike Lee and Ted Cruz......