Obama to allow insurors to continue sale of canceled policies amid pressure from Democrats

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  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    Nov. 16, 2013 9:30 p.m.

    spring street:

    I think you've confused Republicans wanting Obamacare fixed with Obama fixing the Obamacare cancellation problems himself. I don't think there's anyone who believes the fixes he presented on Thursday will help. He certainly did not do exactly what was demanded from the Republicans, as you say.

    "State insurers head: Obama fix could sink healthcare law"-The Hill 11/15/13

    "Proposed Obamacare Fix May Just Cause More Problems, Industry Says"--Reuters 11/13/15

    "Few Options for Obama to Fix Cancellations Problem"--ABC News, 11/8/13

    Howard Dean even wondered on MSNBC, "I Wonder If Obama Has the 'Legal Authority to Do This"

    Guess who is calling for repeal? "Stop digging. Start over."--Chicago Tribune, 11/15/13

    We know how Obama feels about cars being driven into ditches and then giving the keys back to the person who was driving. And there were no Republicans in the Obamacare car, so he really shouldn't have any issue handing over the keys to them, right?

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 16, 2013 4:53 p.m.

    the logic was espoused for almost a week that Obama screwed up and needs to fix his mess has been coming for the far right, so he does what they demand and those same posters come back on and complain because he did exactly what he demanded. We gave sen this same pattern of hypocrisy over and over again. HOw can it be both his fault and not his place to fix it?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 15, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    @ Spring Street:

    The line of reasoning you are referring to is not coming from "the far right" as you contend. It's coming from the very middle of an area known as "common sense". How could it possibly be construed as the far right, when a solid, double-digit majority of Americans currently dislike Obamacare and how it is being implemented?

    @ Pagan:

    Obama is not being called a liar for doing nothing, as you contend. He is earning the title for making a promise and not keeping it. That's the exact definition of a liar.
    And his "fix" is not that at all. It's a minimal step taken as a result of pressure from senate democrats who are up for re-election, and are feeling heavy pressure from their constituents. This merely tries to delay a big issue until after the next election and does nothing to actually fix any problems.

    Insurance companies say timing of this 11th hour change will make things messier and worse than ever!

    @ alt34:

    Once again you are fighting a losing battle with ultra-left line of reasoning. Executive Orders are for policy change only... not changing existing laws. Do some research.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    Nov. 15, 2013 7:13 a.m.

    I hate to use this term, but, "There Ought to be a Law", that prevents Congress from passing legislation of more than 100 pages. That way a huge law like this leviathian health care plan would have been broken down into several bills, each one "READ" hopefully, and "DEBATED" hopefully, and either passed or rejected. Congress could not pass one bill that in effect takes over a huge part of the economy in one massive bill that nobody read or understands. And we wouldn't have leaders saying stupid things like "We have to pass it to know what is in it.

  • high school fan Huntington, UT
    Nov. 15, 2013 3:35 a.m.

    This is not an ethnicity problem, as one accused, this is an ethical problem for our President. He now appears clueless on just about everything.
    I just want to say Amen to finally so many of us finally getting it. Obama is just plain incompetent.

  • deseret pete robertson, Wy
    Nov. 14, 2013 11:29 p.m.

    Purely political stunt to help cover the democrats in the next election. It had nothing to do with healthcare.He expects the insurance companies to do an about face in 30 days when they have been preparing for this roll out for 3 years.He just wants to shift the blame to them.He couldn't roll out his health care in 3 years but now he wants the insurance companies to save him in 30 days for lying to the American people in order to get this train wreck on the track.
    Since they can now see the wreckage he pretends to offer a fix which is nothing but a band -aid on a gaping wound.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:33 p.m.

    The President, Pelosi and Reid are now finding the impact of passing a significant healthcare law in 2010 when it was not properly vetted through established hearings both public and within chambers.

    This President ran on being an open government and fumbled not only on the roll-out but during the supposedly Congressional hearings and forums around the country. This President was a Constitutional expert. He showed his colors of the Constitution when he told Congress, both leaders and elected representatives and senators to vote the law for his signature and then read it later.

    That kind of circumvention bought him the problems he has. The after shocks of this type of tsunami of 16 percent of our economy will ripple for years. Their plan failed because the nation didn't have a real plan, it had subverted the whole process. The insurance companies are in business because they hold captives everyone with ACA. Now, they have more than their computers and calculators figuring out their profit, they have the federal government short changing the law so the insurance companies can make surcharges on our tax dollars for people's health.

    The Chinese and Russians have to be laughing at our socialism.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:18 p.m.

    Obama just keeps on digging his hole. He has destroyed his legacy.


  • George F Salt Lake , UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 5:53 p.m.

    Can someone enlighten me? As I understand, this law was passed by Congress. Does the President really have the authority to unilaterally change it? What is an administrative fix? Can he change any law passed by Congress that he doesn't like? And which version of Obamacare did the Supreme Court uphold?

  • Built2Last Provo, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    A couple of things to keep in mind with this "compromise":

    1. Obama is not offering anything here. He says he won't enforce the minimum requirements for what he considers an acceptable healthcare plan for an indeterminate amount of time. Based on his track record of deception, that just adds more uncertainty to the mix. No security whatsoever. And as soon as the time runs out, we are right back where we were before. A compromise would involve an actual fix. The only thing this fixes is a temporary reduction in heat for the Democrats heading in to the 2014 election campaigns.

    2. Obama is putting this all back on the insurers who have already sent out the cancellation notices and done all their planning toward the new, higher cost plans based on his requirements. Obama has conveniently set up the insurance companies as the fall guy if they don't resurrect these plans.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    well, this pig just got lip stick to make it look beautiful. But those who agreed to this fix say the lip stick will come off after a solitary year. Isn't that just kicking the can further down the road and not "fixing" anything at all?

    Your logic that this is a reverse racial issue might have some merit. After all, how many millions of folks voted for Obama just because he is black and for no other reason? And how many times has the President played the race card, such as the Martin case in Florida or the police action in Cambridge? Yet when the shoe's on the other foot, not one word is said by the White House.

    Racism is wrong but the underbelly is that it is used an excuse for bad behavior too often by those who should move on themselves and be more responsible in their actions.

    Mr. Obama has failed his own race regarding the economy, for sure. They were duped by his rhetoric.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 3:41 p.m.

    And the insurance commission in Washington State answered back, under Obamacare you can not walk it back, the lost policies are gone forever under the law. No delay by law.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 3:36 p.m.

    Obamacare is a complex issue but it is not a racial issue. Implying it is, "Certainly many will oppose the man because of his ethnicity, but I think we're seeing that maybe that phenomenon is deeper and more subtly masked than originally thought." is to throw out any honest discussion about policy.

    As to EPA regulations Nixon created the EPA and was then ratified by congress. The delays for catalytic converters was first in 1973 at the bequest of the courts, by the EPA not Nixon, and again in 1977 by Congress. The first regulatory laws regarding auto emissions was passed by congress in 1948.

  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 3:28 p.m.

    Obama doesn't have to "say" anything. However, he did sign the ACA and is responsible for what's in it.

    Forbes 10/31/13: "Section 1251 of the ACA contains what is known as the 'grandfather' provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted those provisions so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection."

    The Administration wrote on page 34552 of the Federal Register: "The Departments mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather clause status by the end of 2013."

    Politico, 10/30/13: "In September 2010, all Senate Democrats, including Landrieu, voted to reject a plan Republicans said would have killed Obama administration regulations that now have resulted in the cancellation of insurance policies."

    Obama knowingly lied when he said, "If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.'"

    The patients are already dumped, regardless of what Obama said today. The plans are gone and not coming back.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    I knew this line of reasoning was coming from the far right wants to blame Obama for the problems and not fixing them then they accuse him of breaking the law when he does anything. It affirms what I have been saying for a while know. The congress and the senate have known for a long time that there were things that needed to be changed in the law but they sat back on their collective hands and did nothing but stall so you know what they need to get back in there and get back to work fixing the problems.

  • GiuseppeG Murray, Utah
    Nov. 14, 2013 3:07 p.m.


    Foregoing any detailed remark accusing the POTUS of being clueless about the actual process of getting insurance products approved because he has no business experience (because I'm fully aware that business leaders make the same mistakes)...this looks like a simple blame shift game on the part of the President to try to cover his lies in the 11th hour and try to shift it to insurers because they aren't able to change stream and pivot on a dime in a 6 week compressed schedule of what normally has to happen nearly a year in advance. The Washington insurance commissioner has already called BS on this and won't allow it for Washington insurers....but see, now the POTUS gets to blame him instead of shouldering it like a man of character would.


  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 2:33 p.m.


    I'm not an attorney, but I do know there are different types of law. Constitutional law, statuatory law (passed by Congress) and regulatory law (such as EPA regulations).

    When Congress passes a law, they typically leave a lot of the implementation of it to the Executive branch, ie, the President or his/her different agencies.

    For example, Congress does not need to pass a law everytime the FAA decides to modify an aviation regulation.

    The implementation of the ACA likely includes a lot of executive discretion on exactly how the implementation occurs. If the website is not ready, the President can (reasonably) defer the requirement for people to choose a plan, without sparking a full-blown Constitutional Crisis.

  • boyz2many Vienna, VA
    Nov. 14, 2013 2:26 p.m.

    He can't change law at a press conference. Congress is the legislative branch. If the insurance companies allow the old policies they will be breaking the law. Our constitution was created with 3 separate branches of government for a reason. Voters need to get educated. Can we call him a socialist yet?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    The water has already been poisoned and people already know what awaits them one year from today...more cancellations. Barack didn't solve anything but I doubt anyone really expected he would. Again we go back to the MAIN ISSUE here and that is the promise that Barack made 35 times over three years..."If you like your plan you can keep your plan and your doctor..period". Now the man stands up there and adds the qualifier.."for one year". People have already experienced the PAIN of cancellation so they know what awaits them in one year. Sorry Barack but this little political trick won't work...the water has already been poisoned and your little delay does nothing.

    The vacuum of leadership in the White House is deafening. I have to say this is THE WORST disaster the US government has ever caused in my lifetime for sure. What a mess. Incompetence has it's price and we are all paying for it right now.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 2:17 p.m.

    Will we have to fight this battle all over again when the implement the company insurance laws?
    And how will this possibly work if they can't bilk millions of healthy people out of inflated premium payments?
    You cannot just give away healthcare.

  • Built2Last Provo, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 2:16 p.m.

    As I read what Obama is doing, he's not changing the law...he's choosing not to enforce the minimal standard for a period of time. This is very similar to what he is doing with illegal immigration. Just don't enforce it and it has the same end result as changing the law. This is also known as kicking the can down the road, a strategy the Obama administration is very good at. The problem is that these chickens will eventually all come home to roost, and there will be no one to blame and no where to hide.

    And for those who are shocked at the reaction of Obama detractors for this "compromise", don't be. He's doing it for no reason other than political expediency and the realization that if he doesn't do something, and quick, this whole ACA mess will come caving down on his head!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    the silly thing about this press conference today is that nothing really changes. All Barack did was delay the insurance cancellations for one year so in one year we will just hit the resume button for more cancellation pain and we will be right back in the same hole that he dug. I guess that is why some Senate Democrats who are up for re-election next year are proposing their own bill to fix Obamacare...if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance FOREVER!!!! Not for one year. Bill Clinton didn't say Barack ought to allow people to keep their insurance for a year...he said keep it for ever because that is what Barack PROMISED for 3 years. I suspect the low info voters will buy Baracks bull today but anyone with a brain knows this press conference today solves nothing.

  • Justmythoughts Provo, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    Can the President just change the law? I don't think so.

  • baddog Cedar Rapids, IA
    Nov. 14, 2013 1:26 p.m.


    Where is your proof of the presidehnt using executive orders at a lesser level than those who preceded him?

    Last I looked at the executive orders on line, he was far and ahead the leader unless you add all the previous orders together. But I could be wrong.

    I marvel that those elected to watch over government of the people and by the people stand by and say nothing when the president oversteps his authority time and again.

    Have we a new kingdom come?

  • RedShirtMIT Cambridge, MA
    Nov. 14, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    To "atl134" again, where is the constitutional authority? It doesn't matter how many executive orders a president has issued. Most involve administrative things or policy changes. According to Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer (1952) the Supreme Court invalidated Truman’s decree on steel mills, on the grounds that he was attempting to make law (a legislative function), not merely carrying out (or “executing”) existing law. The supreme court says that the President cannot make laws by issuing an executive order. They also stated that the President's job it to carry out the law. Here we have Obama violating both. He is creating law through executive order and is refusing to carry out the law that he signed.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 12:52 p.m.


    There is plenty of well meaning objection to Obamacare and its implementation, on both sides.

    The law is very complex, the topic of healthcare and healthcare reform is even more complex. The law is imperfect, as *any* attempt to reform healthcare would be.

    I just find it odd that Obama backs off on a part of Obamacare that is proving to be particularly disruptive - minimal coverage policies - and his detractors now attack him because he's compromising? It seems if he decided to veto Obamacare tomorrow they would be even more infuriated.

    To me, Obama is doing something similar to Nixon deciding to delay implementation of EPA unleaded gas requirements because there weren't enough catalytic converter parts, yet now we hear from Obama's opponents that he's acting in an unconstitutional manner even in adjusting the implementation schedule. Improving the chances of Obama's success infuriates them.

    Married to an African American from the South for 25 years, I can tell you from first hand experience problems with race are deeper than most of us in Utah realize (even though we've made a lot of progress, which is a great thing).

  • vangroovin West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    I spent two hours in a conference the other day where we looked at the coming implications of the ACA for large and small businesses. The law is designed to coerce the American people to get health coverage through their employer and their employer only. However, there are some disturbing realities that employers are facing as a result of this law. The ACA wants to ensure that benefits are created equal across the board. For example, if your employer offers excellent benefits, there is imposed a 40% Cadillac Tax on those plans that are "too good". There are also taxes/fines for those employers offering a "skinny plan" where there are limited benefits offered to employers. Couple this with the cap on part-time work to under 30 hours average per week, and suddenly it becomes a war between employers trying to reduce benefits costs and employees who are trying to "win" benefits from their employers. Needless to say this undermines competitive advantage for employers in talent acquisition. This law, from what I see is a ploy to direct more than just healthcare. It is designed to control EVERYTHING we do. At least, this is how I understand it.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 12:37 p.m.


    This must be the utopia you and your ilk were hoping for. No? We're not quite there yet? Utopia won't happen until all citizens are poor and under complete government control? The perfect Utopia is North Korea?

    At least I have the guts to say I hope this president fails at his attempts to destroy this nation. I hope enough people finally wake up after this disaster to realize this president isn't smart enough to run this country, even as a dictatorship.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 12:31 p.m.

    there comes a point where you run out of bailing wire and plumbers tape and it is time to just scrap the whole ugly thing and start over. You change one thing and something else blows up...it is just not fixable. Go ahead Barack and do your little fix only to find that insurance companies will have to jack up the premiums through the roof. The bottom line is this...

    Barack Obama had this grand idea of how to force America into Socialism and it failed - it blew up - it exploded on the launch pad and after trillions of wasted tax payer dollars and a bushel basket full of lies this ugly law has exceeded everyone's worst nightmare. It was poorly architectured from the jump 4 years ago and it just isn't feasible or fixable. However don't expect Barack to EVER abandon his socialist dream - NEVER. The US can burn to the ground and the man won't budge.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Nov. 14, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    Since the law was passed by the house and senate and signed by the president, it is the law of the land as it was written. How can Obama legally change the law without congressional approval? What don't I understand here?

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    We have democrats now calling for delays in the ACA, Bill Clinton called out for Obama to back it down and liberals say it is a racist attack on the president by tea party and the GOP. Clinton needs to distance herself from Obamacare, she already has been successful in distancing herself from other issues. 10CC you are saying the Clinton's are deep seated racists. But you would support Hillary in 2016?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    @MapleDon and DN Subscriber 2 and Redshirt MIT

    He's using executive orders... and he's using them at a pace slower than his Republican predecessors.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 12:01 p.m.

    What is the constitutional authority of Obama to "waive" the mandates of the Obamacare law?

    Can any President just decide that certain laws, or parts of laws can be ignored? If so, can he waive the law requiring IRS to send you refunds for taxes you overpaid? Waive jailing of felons convicted of violent crimes? Waive environmental standards for coal plants, or impose new ones not specified by any law?

    This is a very dangerous slippery slope.

    But the question remains- exactly what is his constitutional authority to waive provisions of a law passed by Congress and signed by a President? If he can ignore laws on the books, why do we even have a Congress to pass laws in the first place?

    Obama cares more about having personal power than about the welfare of this country. His actions in the past have proven his words are not to be believed, so I can not trust him in this case either.

  • RedShirtMIT Cambridge, MA
    Nov. 14, 2013 11:41 a.m.

    Since when can Obama change the law without a bill being passed through congress? The laws that were enacted through congress have caused people to lose the insurance plans that they liked. The only LEGAL way to change that to allow insurers to continue to sell the plans that did not qualify under the ACA is to pass a bill through congress.

    At what point will the liberals out there see that Obama is being allowed to act as a dictator, and that he is either comitting impeachable offenses or is quite close to it.

  • Golf Gaffer Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 14, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    While Obama may propose this faux fix to this monstrosity of legislation, he does not, let me repeat, he does not have the authority to unilaterally order insurance companies, overseen by individual state commissioners to make these changes and he certainly does not have the authority under his own law to make this latest illegal change the same as the previous illegal changes exempting certain groups or delaying the employer mandate etc. This is tyranny. While Obama has shown great disrespect for the rule of law this should not deter our elected representatives nor citizens to allow this. Now how do all those who were criticizing Mike Lee and Ted Cruz feel now that you have cancelled policies or new policies that you can't afford because of premium increases.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    Obama will allow? How? Is he a dictator?

    Unless our form of government has radically changed (wouldn't surprise me), Obama doesn't have the power to do this. The Legislative branch can. But Obama can't, unless he is a dictator.

    The term "Anointed One" has so seeped through the media that these journalists actually believe Obama has all power. No wonder the public doesn't trust the news media.

    This was all a stunt intended to get the public to cry for a single payer system. It's backfiring.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    The reactions above are odd, but telling. Obama compromises, he "bends", and the anti-Obama fury is intensified?

    There really does seem to be something deeper going on with many opponents of Obama. Certainly many will oppose the man because of his ethnicity, but I think we're seeing that maybe that phenomenon is deeper and more subtly masked than originally thought.

    Nonetheless, addressing ACA: healthcare reform is a massive, massive change. You can't make changes to this part of our economy one piece at a time. If you make a change anywhere, by itself, a bulge will appear somewhere else. Adjustments are inevitable.

    Anyone trying to explain healthcare reform in sound bites is bound to fail, which gives a huge advantage to its detractors, and they've been relentless in attacking every aspect of healthcare reform, even though the ideas came from a conservative thinktank! At this point it's just a political pile on from the right, with no coherent, comprehensive alternatives.

    Listening to a local right-wing talk radio show in Utah last night, some experts were explaining some of the changes & benefits, which are substantial. Very surprising.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 11:08 a.m.

    The reactions above are odd, but telling. Obama compromises, he "bends", and the anti-Obama fury is intensified?

    There really does seem to be something deeper going on with many opponents of Obama. Certainly many will oppose the man because of his ethnicity, but I think we're seeing that maybe that phenomenon is deeper and more subtly masked than originally thought.

    Nonetheless, addressing ACA: healthcare reform is a massive, massive change. You can't make changes to this part of our economy one piece at a time. If you make a change anywhere, by itself, a bulge will appear somewhere else. Adjustments are inevitable.

    Anyone trying to explain healthcare reform in sound bites is bound to fail, which gives a huge advantage to its detractors, and they've been relentless in attacking every aspect of healthcare reform, even though the ideas came from a conservative thinktank! At this point it's just a political pile on from the right, with no coherent, comprehensive alternative answers.

    Listening to a local right-wing talk radio show in Utah last night, some experts were explaining some of the changes & benefits, which are substantial. Very surprising.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:59 a.m.

    The biggest problem with this train wreck is the process through which it was passed. THIS is why we need to debate and study any legislation, especially those this encompassing. They all seemed so worried that it wouldn't pass if we knew what was in it. That may have turned to be true but at least this mess may have been avoided. Both sides need to be more willing to look for common ground and be willing to work for solutions instead of just grandstanding at the expense of the citizens. Unintended consequences will bite you but only if you don't take the time to study the issue and head them off before enacting.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    What were the names the Democrats called Ted Cruz and Mike Lee for trying to warn Americans of this mess? "Terrorists, hostage takers, obstructionists, racists, etc. Now the Democrats are doing what the GOP asked for all along! What names will the Democrats be called?

  • Lone Eagle Aurora, CO
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    This president has become a law unto himself! THIS MAN MUST BE STOPPED. I don't mean to shout, but so many stupid people are so willing to let this pretender do unspeakable damage to the foundations of our society -- wait, he said he was going to fundamentally transform America.

    IT'S THE LAW that all those insurance policies have to change to meet a so-called MINIMUM STANDARD (including coverage for male birth control). And now, this lawless president is magnanimous in his condescension to allow us poor "folks" to keep our existing insurance plan (for how long?). UNBELIEVABLE -- but what else to expect from democrats.

    Wait until next year when employers will be forced to drop your plan (for those of you who have employer-sponsored plans).

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    Wait lets go back to the complaints about Mike Lee. The law was passed by the house, passed by the Senate, signed by the president. Any attempt by Mike Lee or the house to d4fund the law was "unconstitutional".

    Again the President changes the law without going to congress, established law. That everyone is Unconstitutional. The President can not change law. Can you say "Dictator."

  • LadyMoon Crestucky, FL
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    The president's careless healthcare act is a disaster. He is guilty of perpetual lies that even his democrats are critical of. His dictation of policy is so unAmerican it makes me nauseous.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    You can keep your plan until AFTER the elections! LOL

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    That's great, they found a bend aid to clog the mile long hole that they created. Great job Obama!- I can't differentiate this logic with that of second graders.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    Obama never said he could control Insurance companies from dumping you.

    So, wait, wait, wait.

    If Obama DOES something to prevent insurance companies from dumping you, he is a 'dictator'.

    If Obama does nothing he is 'lying'.

    Is it any wonder no one wants to run for President when this is the American public one has to deal with?

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 14, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    for one year? OHHH that's right.....Obama said, "if you like your plan you can keep your plan.....for one year!"