To "Bebyebe" when the men start having abortions, then I will start to
complain about them too when it comes to abortion.The men are
irresponsible if they are having sex with women prior to marriage. The
difference is the consequence. When a women is irresponsible, she can kill a
child. When a man is irresponsible he will end up paying some sort of child
support.The consequences are different, therefore the way that they
are treated is different.
I see a lot of "women are irresponsible" or 'women should keep
their pants on'. What about the men? You keep your pants on. You take
responsibility. Or is it that the poor dears just can't help themselves.
I'm sick of this culture blaming women for everything. Redshirt, do you
hate women? You judge them every chance you get!
If you can get pregnant you are entitled to an opinion. Otherwise mind your own
To "Ranch" I hate to tell you this, but a woman chooses to risk
pregnancy anytime that she engages in sex. All abortion does is remove the
consequences of her choices.Lets look at it this way. A child under
the age of 1 could be considered a parasite too since they depend on a parent
for food. Should we allow mothers to kill their child up to 1 year old too
since it is just a parasite?If a woman chooses to never get pregnant
or get a VD, there is only one thing that she can do to avoid it. Keep her
pants on.Also, do you hate women? I ask this because new research
indicates that women who get abortions are more likely to develop mental health
problems. See "Do Abortions Increase The Risk Of Mental Illness?
county mom says:"Second paragraph of the Declaration of
Independence....guarantees unalienable rights, these rights are....the right to
LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."You would take away
a WOMAN's right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness just for a
conglomeration of cells that aren't even a person yet? What hypocrisy.A fetus isn't a person until it's birth. A woman's right
to choose whether or not to carry a parasite (yes, that is what a fetus is) is
more important than the "rights" of a parasite that can't survive
on it's own without it's host.
@Machado"How can a reasonable person not oppose that freedom?"Simple we do not blindly accept your equating abortion with "Murder."
You can call it murder all you want it does not make it a fact for the rest of
Second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence....guarantees unalienable
rights, these rights are....the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness. I believe our fore fathers were very clear on this
subject.The most innocent among us can be killed at will. As a people we need to look at what we are doing to the next generations. As a nation, we are killing many of our children, others leaving to suffer
born addicted, molesting them, abusing them, neglecting them and leaving the
survivors with mountains of national debt. WE are the most selfish
ridiculous "adults" ever to live on this planet. I am really
wondering if we deserve to live?
To "Stalwart Sentinel" so what you are saying is that you would rather
put a woman's life at risk rather than adding another layer of safety into
the abortion process? Read about Kermit Gosnell. He had several women die in
his abortion clinic. Not to mention the babies that he killed after the
abortion process failed. That is the face of "leagal and safe"
abortions.To "Happy Valley Heretic" I don't think that
the women who are seeking abortions are irresponsible. They are seeking
absolution to the consequences of their choices. If they carry the child to
term, they are not forced to become parents. Right now there is a 2 year
average wait for parents looking to adopt babies. If those babies were adopted
rather than aborted, that wait could be eliminated or at least greatly reduced.
so few of you even know anyone that has had an abortion. one of my wifes older
friend who was a catholic got pregnant and it was such a big deal in the 60s she
went to mexico and had an abortion. then messed it up. she was never able to
have children again. right of wrong im not saying but should it not at least be
I am not a woman, I will never have to go through these decisions personally.I will not decide for a woman what she should do with her body or anything in
it.The first breath of life is when the soul enters the body, this is
substantiated byGen 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of
the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and
man became a living soul."Numbers 3:15-16Leviticus 27:6The Jewish view of when a fetus becomes a person - when it takes its
first breath (or for breech births, when the majority of its body is delivered).
Up till then it is seen as having the potential for life, but is treated like
any other of the mother's internal organs.
President Clinton said his 'pro-choice' party's stance on
abortion was that they should be safe, legal, and rare. Then the
pro-abortion groups do all they can to make sure abortions are rampant, and
sacrifice safety in the process. 1 out of 3 is good enough for
them.When will women realize that they are being thrown under the
bus in the name of women's rights?
HVH: Only the willfully blind or woefully ignorant believe human life begins at
birth.- Have you not seen the overwhelming scientific evidence (you
do like science, don't you?) showing that the unborn have all the same
human traits and sensations that any of us have including pain?-
Have you never seen or heard of a human baby born at 24 weeks or even sooner
that not only survive but grow to full maturity as adults?- Have you
never seen a video of an aborted fetus that made you cringe that a human being
had been killed?If not, you do not have enough information (by your
own choice to ignore data that does not suit your paradigm) to hold an informed
opinion.Is self-sustainment your concern? If so, then what changes
at birth. A baby cannot sustain himself. At 93, my dad cannot sustain
himself.Is it viability? An unborn child, left interrupted, will
grow to full maturity just as a two year old child will.Seriously,
what criteria do you use to identify human life? Other than geography, what
substantive difference is there moments before a baby is born and moments after
Ranting? or calling you out on your religious rant?They are not children
until they are born.This is my belief system, it is based on what I
believe not what your church told you.So do you shop where they sell
goods from China?
Happy Valley: You do know you are ranting, right?So, in your mind,
the heartless Republican plan is to abandon these children.But I think the
"compassionate" Democrat plan is to murder them.Please
don't show me any of your version of compassion. I'd rather have to go
alone that receive what your ilk is dishing out as care.
Those who become pregnant are irresponsible, and or sinners therefore should
suffer for their iniquity. If they are young and irresponsible we should
force them to become parents whether or not the product oftheir sin
suffers, oh yeah republicans also hate welfare the only safety net for those who
can't afford children.If your going to try and force folks to
have children, you can't abandon them at birth.If folks Really
hated abortion at wanted to take a moral stand, businesses like Hobby Lobby and
Walmart would buy most of their inventory from China would they? I know those
are little girl babies of foreigners so it doesn't matter right?
Mark B: Does that include the freedom to murder? How can a reasonable person not
oppose that freedom? Does that mean all it takes to salve our consciences is a
federal law? Please take a minute and just consider the implications of that
justification. Think of the atrocities committed with full governmental support.
You don't have to go back to WWII. Think of what is happening around the
world today in African nations, Middle Eastern nations, and Asian nations. Do
you seriously believe American hands are any less bloody than those? The fact
that it is government sanctioned makes it even more egregious in my mind.
Does everyone realize that this was not a ruling on abortion itself? The Supreme
Court did that 40 years ago. This had to do with dismantling the wall built to
KEEP women from exercising a legal right because Texas GOP legislators know
better than Texas women. You know those legislators - the ones for small
government, leaving people with maximum "freedom".
So society, through this judge, has decided the health and safety of the woman
is secondary. What really matters is that doctors can be hired to come and kill
the unborn, but does not hold them responsible for the care of the former
mother's complications that may result. It sounds like abortion
doctors shouldn't be doctors at all. They are just hired hit men/women. If
a second person, the woman, is harmed, oh well, as long as the baby dies.
The only people who support killing unborn humans have already been born! Sadly
This is another area I stand with Mormon prophets. They and I agree
that abortion is ONLY acceptable under circumstances of mothers danger, incest,
I'm glad the Federal Courts are not buying into the legal arguments the
state of Texas is articulating to justify the law. Any reasonably intelligent
person can see that the admitting requirement for physicians is an irrelevant
provision whose true purpose is to make it difficult for abortion clinics and
it's physicians to do their jobs.
How can we have so many judges who keep supporting legalized murder? Do they not
understand that a person is killed when an abortion is performed?Forget about showing abortion videos to women considering abortions. They are
selfishly thinking about their own convenience and don't seem to have the
ability to care about killing someone else. But someone should make these judges
sit through those videos until they see and understand what is really happening.
"[A] decision released Monday that the state is certain to appeal..."
and lose.This is the epitome of conservative hypocrisy: wasting
taxpayer dollars to defend a clearly unconstitutional regulation they
intentionally put in place to harm businesses/non-profits so they can usurp a
woman's constitutionally-guaranteed right to choose. It's a perfect
storm of irony; too bad it is lost on the perpetrators.