Spire atop Idaho high-rise drawing concerns for causing building to look like Mormon temple

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  • muffintop Layton, UT
    Nov. 2, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Can't people spend their time worrying about something important like world peace, world hunger or even just volunteering at a community organization who might need their help. Have they ever noticed any other architecture around the world?

  • cavetroll SANDY, UT
    Nov. 1, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    Methinks some people need more with which to occupy their time. No one church has a monopoly on spires. Compared to the rest of the building, that spire is completely out of place.

  • Farid @ Pocatello Pocatello, ID
    Oct. 31, 2013 2:32 p.m.

    As we said in the 1970's, "big whoop."

    In Idaho there's Boise and then there's the rest of the state. Boise tries so hard to be a secular "big city" and at times projects a California attitude.

    The rest of the state--especially Southeast Idaho--embraces the LDS faith.

  • RFLASH Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 31, 2013 1:47 p.m.

    The rest of the building makes it clear that it is not an LDS temple. Besides, they live in a area with a lot of Church influence, and it is going to come out once in a while. What is wrong with the spire?

  • Whip Orem, UT
    Oct. 31, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    Put a flagpole on it and move on!

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Oct. 30, 2013 10:18 p.m.

    Looks like a temple? Heck no. Looks like a stretched-up stake center? Maybe. Get a grip Boise. Paranoia is now taken to a new level.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Oct. 30, 2013 1:08 p.m.


    Hey, I only get 200 words. Glad you read it. So you do understand that the iconography of the cross is not from the very earliest days of Christianity but was a later overlay. Right?

  • donn layton, UT
    Oct. 30, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    To,Twin Lights, From the Wiki folks: The extensive adoption of the cross as Christian iconographic symbol arose from the 4th century...continues,

    However, the cross symbol was already associated with Christians in the 2nd century,written at the end of that century or the beginning of the next, and by the fact that by the early 3rd century the cross had become so closely associated with Christ that Clement of Alexandria, who died between 211 and 216.

    The Jewish Encyclopedia says The cross as a Christian symbol or "seal" came into use at least as early as the second century .

    see Colossians 2:15,

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Oct. 30, 2013 11:56 a.m.


    From the Wiki folks:

    During the first two centuries of Christianity, the cross may have been rare in Christian iconography, as it depicts a purposely painful and gruesome method of public execution and Christians were reluctant to use it. A symbol similar to the cross, the staurogram, was used to abbreviate the Greek word for cross in very early New Testament manuscripts such as P66, P45 and P75, almost like a nomina sacra. The extensive adoption of the cross as Christian iconographic symbol arose from the 4th century.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Oct. 30, 2013 10:27 a.m.

    That's it! Why not paint it like a barber pole with the Boise State orange and blue? Also, the landscaping could include blue "grass". Awesome!

    And, is it time to re-design/modify the Empire State Building?

  • donn layton, UT
    Oct. 30, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    To:c Twin Lights, there are other Christian denominations that do not top their spires with crosses.

    Early Christ centered Church architecture. The Cross is centered, not man centered. The Pulpit (man) is to the left or right.
    The altar, is elevated to the rest of the Church, The theological implications of this are on purpose.

    Christian centered churches are constructed in the shape of a cross,(cruciform) so that if you were to look down at them they would actually look like a cross. Other symbols, e.g. dove, anchor, fish.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Oct. 30, 2013 8:38 a.m.


    First, the spire is not what tops it. Second, from this photo a cross would not likely be visible even if present. Third, there are other Christian denominations that do not top their spires with crosses.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Oct. 30, 2013 5:58 a.m.

    I can't see any resemblance.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Oct. 30, 2013 1:03 a.m.

    It is both biszrre and ludicrous that citizens in Boise would concern themselves with this non issue. They should be happy to have the big hole filled and a nice office building. Three people will complain about anything. It seems that the contractor is trying to be sensitive to these people.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 30, 2013 12:30 a.m.

    Never mind what this building reminds people of, it is one UGLY building - the mast was attached to an ordinary block building - like something out of Monty Python.

  • donn layton, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:53 p.m.

    TO: Semi-Strong, Don't know if it looks specifically like a temple spire but it does look generally like a church spire.

    True, But not a Christian church, Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the Cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:17 p.m.

    In this day and age, this is what it's all about --- complaining. Elder Boyd K. Packer once said: 'Where there are problems we'll abate them, where there are none, we'll create them.'

    If you begin any topic of discussion, there will be someone who will rush in to complain about it -- pro or con, it doesn't matter. If you say it's a bad day, someone will become offended and file a complaint. If you say the performer did an excellent job, someone will rush in to counter your compliment. Its just what our society has devolved in to.

  • Clifton Palmer McLendon Gilmer, Texas
    Oct. 29, 2013 3:29 p.m.

    So some people think it looks like a temple. So what?

    Why should anybody cater to the PC-pines? We don't tolerate tantrums from children -- why do we tolerate them from adults?

  • Lyle Springville, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    Three complaints? Three?! And they are considering expensive changes to the building? I'd say that was silly. The three complaints might even have come from a group of people that egged each other on.

  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    Oct. 29, 2013 2:12 p.m.

    It does look like a rather misplaced temple spire...minus Moroni, who probably is laughing hysterically on the other side of the veil (if you are LDS). Since it is white, but the building is, well, building-colored, it looks mostly undone. How 'bout a nice coat of paint?

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    Complaints and concerns? Huh?!?

    dpgrizzle: I thought that was the Nashville temple... But no, its the AT&T building. ;)

  • Ella Mentry Longview, WA
    Oct. 29, 2013 12:46 p.m.

    Yeah. Not seeing what even REMOTELY looks like a temple spire. I thought if I zoomed in on the picture....nope. Still looks like lovely building, but hardly a temple. Please make a fuss elsewhere...

  • OneWifeOnly San Diego, CA
    Oct. 29, 2013 12:04 p.m.

    I clicked on this link because I thought it was an Onion spoof :)

  • Bernard GUi Puyallup, WA
    Oct. 29, 2013 11:46 a.m.

    This certainly should take its place at the top of the list of important things that need to get done to make life more tolerable. Get on it right away.

  • Capt Moroni Perris, CA
    Oct. 29, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    So, just because there is a spire it automatically looks like a Mormon Temple? Perhaps people don't know, but on Mormon Temples there are statues of an Angel blowing a horn...how is that remotely the same as a Spire?

  • InspectorC Wasatch Front, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    Even if the owner of the building called a press conference and stated, "YES! We intended for it to look EXACTLY like a Mormon Temple spire. That is the effect we purposefully wanted! We hope everyone in the world thinks it DOES look exactly like a temple spire! That was our absolute motive in designing it that way!"

    SO WHAT?!?!

  • Kjirstin Youngberg Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    Looks like the NSA will need to find a different spot for it's covert antenna array.

    Honestly, folks-have you any idea what it will cost to bring scaffolding to change this thing? Why not just paint it black, or even navy blue or orange? Dudes! Get creative here.

    Nobody ever accused the Eiffel Tower, the Chrysler Building or many newer structures moving back to an art deco look, of being religious. Tell these three complainers to google "Liberty Place" to catch changes in new world architecture.

    Before adding unnecessary public expense, I'd use the media by showing photos of these famous buildings (to show it's not a "Mormon Thing") run them on the front page of the largest newspaper there, and take a public opinion poll. Looks to me like Boise is ahead of the new wave in architecture, but I guess that bothers some old timers. Don't let a few squeaks get to you, mayor!

  • djk blue springs, MO
    Oct. 29, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    really seriously how does this look like a temple ? ok guess some are just bored.

  • DonP Sainte Genevieve, MO
    Oct. 29, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    I haven't read all the comments, but someone must have said something about the lack of an Angel Moroni statue. Most LDS temples have the Angel Moroni statue on them.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    This is the same state where residents complained about the flag flying at half staff when President Benson died. Really.

  • GeoMan SALEM, OR
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    The article doesn't say if it is LDS people or non-LDS people complaining. In looking at the photo and thinking about it, I really can't see why anyone in either group would care, let alone complain.

    You can't please all the people all the time, so don't try.

  • JediMormon Omaha, NE
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    I looked at the picture and thought "what in the world are they talking about?" Maybe they could mount a bowl-shaped piece of metal part way down the spire--make it look like a satellite dish? Add a little water and turn it into a giant bird bath.

  • JonathanPDX Portland, Oregon
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    Much ado about nothing.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    Have you seen the Boise Temple? I'd rather look at this building.....

  • BostonLDS Salt lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    I don't know that it looks like a temple, but it's definitely a bad look for a sky rise. Pretty weird!

  • lkm55 Porterviller, CA
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    Really? the building looks nothing like a temple. Boise's population is 212,000, they've gotten 3 complaints, it's much ado about nothing.

  • dpgrizzle Longview, TX
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    Spires are not an unusual architectural motif. A quick Google image search on the phrase "Nashville skyline" will reveal a skyscraper even more evocative of an LDS temple.

    Perhaps it should be the LDS Church protesting, or else the residents of Boise should acknowledge that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

  • ca2000 West Wendover, NV
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:40 a.m.

    I didn't know Boise even had any big buildings.

  • ksampow Farr West, Utah
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:16 a.m.

    If I understand correctly, this is a privately owned building. The owners are free to design it as they see fit. If the design turns out to be unpopular, then the owners will likely change it (as they seem to be doing) so that the building will be a profitable investment.

    Concerning the statement that the building is like a temple, nothing could be further from the truth. A spire, though it is an attractive adornment, is not what makes a temple. All temples are built and operated by the authority of the Holy Priesthood. They are dedicated to the Lord and bear the inscription "Holiness to the Lord."

  • Jon1 Arlington, VA
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:12 a.m.

    From the picture with this article, it takes a big stretch of imagination to believe that building looks like a temple. I would think Idaho would have more important things to concern themselves other than this non issue.

  • mpschmitt Boston, MA
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:08 a.m.

    "My native country, thee,
    Land of the noble free,
    Thy name I love;
    I love thy rocks and rills,
    Thy woods and TEMPLED hills;
    My heart with rapture thrills,
    Like that above."
    ~Samuel F. Smith (emphasis added)

  • will7370 LOGAN, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 7:16 a.m.

    They just need to put an angel on top of it.

  • Semi-Strong Louisville, KY
    Oct. 29, 2013 6:32 a.m.

    Don't know if it looks specifically like a temple spire but it does look generally like a church spire.

    More to the point, it just looks odd on the building. Like an afterthought. Probably would work better if it were of materials more in keeping with the rest of the structure.

  • Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 28, 2013 10:13 p.m.

    Interesting that so many assume it is non-Mormons complaining. How do you all know that it is not a case of Mormons wanting respect for their religious symbols?

    Personally, however, I think it looks more like a particular bird than a temple spire.

  • MoJules Florissant, MO
    Oct. 28, 2013 9:34 p.m.

    That look only works on a real temple.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Oct. 28, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    It does look a bit like the Manhattan LDS Temple.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 28, 2013 5:17 p.m.

    When you're a paranoid conspiracy theorist, everything is suspicious. Next it may be accusing Lego models of looking like a temple.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Oct. 28, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    This is what you get in "small town America". Get a grip. How about the TransAmerica building in SF??

  • bikeboy Boise, ID
    Oct. 28, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    As an LDS Boise resident... I'm both amused and mystified at the "outcry" over the design of the building. Maybe people who live in the "Moroni Belt" could spot some vague similarity to the spire, and Mormon architecture. (A cube, with a smaller cube atop, and a spire sticking up.)

    The best suggestion I've heard so far - install a miniature bronze "King Kong" statue, clinging to the spire!! (Now THAT would be a conversation starter!)

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 28, 2013 4:22 p.m.


    I agree 100%. I really don't see the problem.
    I suspect this is more about a very successful businessman who is known to be LDS, and some people just can't cope with that.
    Seriously, some people really need to get a life.

  • Wilf 55 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 28, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    That's what happens when standardized Mormon temples start to look like enhanced secular buildings.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Oct. 28, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    I had no idea Mormons had a patent on spires. Exactly which LDS temple looks anything remotely like this building? Do these same people think the Empire State Bldg. looks like a temple? Good grief! Talk about paranoid people looking for something to whine about.