House Dems worried by health law rollout woes

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 24, 2013 10:58 p.m.

    Promises made:

    * if you like your doctor--you keep your doctor,--period-end of discussion.
    * you can keep your plan
    * everybody will have lower premiums.
    * nobody will take your insurance away.

    Will America's leaders do as they say?
    Can we the people trust our commander in chief?

  • David Centerville, UT
    Oct. 24, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    So has anyone looked into the new Medical Device Excise Tax that is part of the Obamacare law? This tax is being applied to items such as tires, fishing rods, and other hunting equipment that you could get at Cabelas. The administration has been pressuring retailers to make the tax hidden, but Cabelas has refused. The medical device tax shows up on your receipt when you purchase some items there.

    Interesting that a tire would be a medical device. A fishing rod is a medical device?

    When the website is fixed, there will be plenty of other things to pick apart. Truly Nancy Pelosi was correct when she stated that you had to vote for the bill to know what is in it. Well, now we know what is in it.

    Obamacare is a veiled attempt to increase taxes for the federal government and control our lives through health care.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 24, 2013 8:23 a.m.

    Computer programming requires viable end point and with analysts and programmers and supervisors and especially the insurance companies involved, it is odd that they don't have their precise programs in-place. Insurance companies would have known of this debacle and that their whole plan with the President's ultimate plan is not doable. Social security was robbed by the government years ago. It was sold on a solid plan of people paying into the system and having the money they contributed there in their future years. However, it was used to build social programs that got people enabled to want government to do everything.

    Government is not the end all but is there to help protect the society's safety and welfare. This President hasn't run anything in his life producing anything. His closest allies haven't done anything either so it is a good opportunity to see what happens. Other Presidents may have made mistakes in something but this President has made the nations of the world despise us for his NSA intrusion into their lives and countries. People like privacy. The NSA programming was successful. That is where our CEO put his efforts.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 6:05 p.m.

    Bluffdale, UT
    Parroting the party line does not make it true, even for Jay Carney. Was the administration told that spending >$200 million would not bring the desired result on the web site? When were the alpha or beta tests done? What were the results? The White House ignores the practice of due diligence and wastes our money. Why not tell the president before he inserted his foot into his mouth. Putting people out of a job is the hallmark of the ACA. The CBO estimates that $1 trillion in new taxes in the next 10 years will be needed to fund ACA. Now tell us that Mr. Obama is protecting the middle class.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    Yes, I agree with others. Now is the time for the Republicans to just get out of the way, let this thing go on, and wait out the results on the sidelines. Then, if it is bad enough, there will be a re-alignment in government in the next two elections, and if the Republicans get the White House, and Congesss, then any number of adjustments to the ACA can be enacted and signed into law. Want to see how this is really working in the coming months? Just listen to what Hillary, and any other Democrat who is looking to a presidential run in 2016, will be saying about it. If it is popular, she and others will be all in on it. If it is the mess it seems it will be, it will be fun watching the Democrats run away from the ACA as fast as they can. That will be the real indicator as to what America thinks about Obamacare.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    The roll out is a BIG problem and the web app isn't going to be fixed without major architecture refactoring in the code...that much is for certain. There is no quick fix for such a poor design reportedly using outdated web technologies which obviously won't scale. Also just the mind numbing number of questions you are asked in the UI just to find out a quote on the policy is a joke so the UI design is terrible. Finally if I were the Dem's I would be even more worried about the actual LAW itself and the outright financial terror it is causing to millions of American families and their budgets as their premiums go up 2-3 times and their work hours are reduced nearly in half. Just wait a few more months when the IRS penalties are issued and then you will see REAL OUTRAGE that Barack and Jay Carney won't be able to tap dance around...all in time for the 2014 mid term elections. If I were a Democrat running for re-election in 2014 I would be sprinting away from this ugly law with all vigor!!

  • David Centerville, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 2:39 p.m.


    The Republicans want to stop Obamacare because they believe it is a bad law. Those Republican lawmakers represent constituents who also believe it is a bad law.

    Obama said we could keep our own doctor, that the ACA would not increase insurance premiums, that the cost of health care would decrease, that we could keep our insurance if we wanted, that everyone would get health insurance, that it would decrease waste and abuse and fraud, and that the quality of health care would improve. Is any of that true?

    If not, then why is anyone defending the ACA? Give it more time? Why, so we can sink more money into a bad law and a terrible system?

    Cut our losses now. Revoke and replace.

    Democrats complain that Republicans haven't offered an alternative. Dems didn't offer specifics until after elections. The GOP will have that opportunity to revoke and replace after elections.

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    but here is the truth. republicans tried to stop funding of heath care before it even started because if it works it will make them look bad. they are willing to put people out of work incur more dept for nothing and take the us to the brink of default, hurt millions to fight a law passed, and found legal by the high court. because the party line is more important than the united state are to them and of course the rich.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    Dems facing reelection wanted to tout obamacare successes to further their reelection chances. Their disappointment is in not having a reelction bonus, not that people are being turned away. They are more concerned about reelection than actually helping people, though obamacare actually does not help anyone but the insurance companies' stockholders.

    BO needs to “man up” and fire whoever is responsible according to Richard Nolan (D) MN.

    BO hasn’t the authority to fire pelosi or reid, but he can fire himself. I don’t think we’d any better off with biden, though.

  • Ticus Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    Nolan said, "The president needs to man up, find out who was responsible, and fire them."

    I agree. President Obama should be fired.