Glenn Beck does. Think of the entertainment revenue.
"The only successful third party movement in our history, the Republican
Party..."I'm not sure how you're rating a party's
success, but throughout the 19th century, a Congressional session didn't
pass without some third party representation.In the 1830s, the
Anti-Masons had as much as 25 seats, and the Nullifiers as much as 9. In the
1850s, before the Civil War, the American Party (Know-Nothings) had 52 seats and
the Anti-Nebraska Party had 22 seats. During the Civil War, in the 1860s, the
Unionist Party had as much as 26 seats. And of course, in the 1890s, the
Populist Party had as much as 22 seats. In the early 20th century, the
Progressive Party had 9 seats. Of course, during all this time smaller third
party movements also found representation, too: the Silver Party, Readjuster
Party, and so on. Today, at most you have one or two registered Independent in
Congress, and no third party representation at all. This is new.
BlueDevil,Exactly right. The right has deluded themselves into
thinking that the majority of the US population is far right of center.They believe that the term "conservative" means far far to the
right.It has never been that way. Reagan was certainly
right of center, but only moderately. GWBush was moderate and although he
governed to the left of Reagan he still got the blind support of the right.
Only in hindsight, when the facts stared them square in the face, did they turn
on him but only slightly.Most president (all I can think of) have
been either moderately left or right of center. And that includes Obama and
Clinton.I consider myself a fiscal conservative. But not the brand
that is espoused by the Tea Party and Cruz. I dont want to shut down the
government. Or the EPA or the FDA. I want these things fixed. I believe that
entitlements need to be reigned in. But not all in one year while cutting taxes
for the rich.I would love to see $5 in spending cuts for ever $1 in
tax increases. Not the GOP.Logic and reason are gone.
From Patriot......"The old guard (McCain, Hatch, etc...) are NOT
representing conservatives in their states which is why we got rid of Bennett
and elected Lee."And that is why the rest of us don't want
anything to do with the "New" republican party. The old party was about
building coalitions to get things done. This new brand of entitled
conservative has been pampered that they think anything but what they want, when
they want it, how they want it... is unacceptable.This nation is
about a plurality of people.... always has been.... but this new group thinks
disrespecting others is a form of diplomacy. Had we followed their brand of
poetics, instead of winning over the Chinese to a hybrid version of
communism/socialism/capitalism, they would have demanded all or nothing at we
would be at war with China.I have absolutely no need for any brand
of politics that declares and demands party purity. The world has seen this
before... and it has ended poorly.
Mr. Bennett,While although I never voted for you and wouldn't
in the future as a Dem - I miss your pragmatism and wisdom especially among the
current Tea Party Utah delegation which continues to bring shame to our state
and to Mormon culture in my opinion. Sadly the red meat culture nourished in
certain circles in state and culture have produced extremists ideologues that
are dangerous and foolish.
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of
revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has
perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But
this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and
miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and
repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of
some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns
this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public
liberty. George Washington Farewell Address.We need three parties.
"Splitting the Republican vote would be a Democrat's dream."Yes it would. But would it be good for America? I don't think
so.I don't want complete Democratic control.Nor do I want
a House, Senate and President under Republican control.
Re PatriotCedar Hills. UtahI would like to see the Deseret
News or Salt Lake Tribune do a current survey on if actually the people from
Utah County support Mike Lees efforts.It would be interesting to see
If our founding fathers had acted like our modern day politicians and were more
interested in their own self interest and in "getting along", we would
probably still be subject to the British monarchy.We need leaders
who will stand up for what is right even if it costs them politically.
As a Demo, I would be delighted to see Glenn Beck succeed in his efforts to
launch a third party. The result would be a USA dominated once again by
intelligent progressives who actually believe in science and economic fairness.
A third party? Well the real solution would be a united GOP but that isn't
going to happen - not now and not ever. The old guard (McCain, Hatch, etc...)
are NOT representing conservatives in their states which is why we got rid of
Bennett and elected Lee. Mike IS representing the people in his district
especially in Utah Valley. McCain is essentially a big government progressive
and that just isn't representative of the people who won the 2010 mid
terms. I suspect democrat's will win the presidency for the foreseeable
future but an even bigger prize will be winning back the senate and keeping the
house and that CAN happen as it did in 2010 and it won't be by fence
sitting progressives - it will be by conservatives and independents who are SICK
of Socialism and how it robs them of their rights as well as their pocket book.
Political parties I think will being to disappear as people unite against
Obamacare because the bottom line is the American Dream which is fading fast.
The largest party in America right now could be called the Unaffiliated Party.
Why don't we just make it official. Its platform could be, simply, we will
go to Washington pass sensible legislation, work toward balancing the budget by
reining in a few out-of-control expenses, closing loopholes, and increasing
taxes to pre-Reagan levels, impose term limits on ourselves, and refuse to take
money from large corporations or PACs or anyone who wants to buy our votes.
@milner - well said@Semi-Strong - great comment@Hutterite - yep@ronk-sandy - absolutely rightWe don't need another party per
se, we need an independent who will represent the people. Long past are the
days when people of office were "public servants." Now they are
celebrities soiled in corruption and partisan politics.Currently, it
is just a game: 2 points Democrats vs. 1 point Republicans. Those who started
with great vision, clean conscience, and wanted to help are quickly overcome by
the system and party that sponsored them.By the way Mr. Bennett,
Abraham LIncoln and Ronald Reagan were actually two of the most rigid presidents
we know. It was a good thing in their situations and what they stood for.
I think splitting the Republican party would be ideal.... making room for those
like myself who left the party to come back. But until that happens, I will
not be party of Limbaugh/Tea Party tail wagging the dog party. I could no more
associate with those groups as I could with communist nor white supremacist.
Any party that has "purity" as part of its mantra... doesn't
I agree with Sen Bennett on the Third Party idea. It wouldn't really solve
anything at this point except splinter the conservatives and allow the likes of
Pelosi, Reid and Obama to dominate even more. What we really need is term-limits
on all these knuckle heads so we can get back to government of the people, by
the people and for the people. With over 300 million people in this country,
surely, we have enough talented and skilled people to serve in congress. Also,
if we have put term-limits on the president, we need to do the same on the
legislative branch of government. Currently there is too much special interest
money for both liberals and conservatives floating around.
Why not a third, or fourth party? Why not a Green party, a Liberal Democrat
party, and the Tea party, too? How well does democracy function if we only have
George Washington said it best about parties - he was as a prophet:They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary
force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a
party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and,
according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public
administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of
faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by
common counsels and modified by mutual interests.However
combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer
popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become
potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be
enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins
of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to
Re: "Washington doesn't need a third party"Hear,
hear!What Washington really needs is a SECOND party.There simply is no place on the current political landscape for conservative
constitutionalists, which comprise a clear majority of Americans.Leadership of the parties has merged. "Leaders" no longer care for the
will of constituents or the good of the country. With them, it has come down to
a single issue -- re-election.Nothing more. No heart. No soul. No
integrity. No guiding philosophy.This combined Democrat/Republican
Party concerns itself strictly with "packaging." It overreaches so hard
to buy off every perceived voting constituency, it no longer represents ANY of
us.One or the other name will probably survive, but the lineage,
honors, and traditions of both parties died years ago, and will shortly be
consigned to the ash heap of history, along with the Whig, Bull-Moose, and
I think this country would be better off if we didn`t have political parties!
That way the person holding a political office could vote for what he thinks is
right instead of going along party lines!
you forgot those who go along to get along. No thanks!
Glen Beck is advocating it on his network. when conservatives attack other
conservatives like liberals the third party is inevitable. Senator Lee and Cruz
of President of Texas and Utah. (Succession would be the only way)
Personally, I would love to see the Republican party splinter into two parties:
the Tea Party and the mainline Republicans. Splitting the Republican vote would
be a Democrat's dream.
What needs to happen is both parties need to be scrapped. Neither one truly
represent the people. It's nothing more than cronyism and the old boy
What we need, Mr Bennett is politicians who put America over party. Who put
Americans before Corporations and unions. Who put voters ahead of $dollars$.What makes anyone think that a 3rd party would not quickly be corrupted
by the money also?If our politicians were not swayed by the massive
amounts of MONEY heaped on them, it would not matter much if we elected R or
D.Lobbyists now spend over $3 Billion dollars per year. (over 5.5
million per congressman)The 2012 presidential campaigns spent over $2
Billion Dollars (plus undisclosed pac money)Anyone who can fog a
mirror knows this is not good for our country.