Senate votes to avoid default, open government

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  • HBZion Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 10:15 p.m.

    Thank you Senator Orrin Hatch for getting the government running again. Mike Lee, shame on you for causing needless suffering brought on by the shutdown. USA 1 - Lee 0

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 7:44 p.m.

    Re: "If the Republicans want to get rid of Obamacare and stop deficit spending, then they have to have a good strategy for getting the changes."

    This one's as good as any.

    Liberals chose to shut gown the government because it cost them nothing -- the media have their back and are as committed as Democrats to keeping Americans stupid about the real issues that face us.

    Democrat party bosses refuse to acknowledge -- and the media refuse to report -- that they're forcing Obamacare down our throats, though they know a clear majority of Americans oppose it.

    If Republicans were doing the same thing, media representatives would, themselves, be manning the barriers, tearing up cobblestones, and fomenting revolution. As it is, when Republicans oppose Democrat party bosses, trying to implement the clear will of the people, the media hold them up to shame and ridicule.

    Saddest of all, the low-information America liberal programs and education have created over the past 50 years seems to have lost the ability to detect when liberals are lying to them.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 7:26 p.m.

    No, the Senate voted to hasten our inevitable national bankruptcy by failing to make even toke cuts in bloated, out of control spending, especially on entitlement programs.

    Bravo to Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and the other brave leaders willing to fight for what is right for the country than to pander to low information voters eager for "free stuff," despite being vilified by the incredibly partisan and largely untruthful news media.

    Worse, this same drama will be replayed in another 8-12 weeks, with the same actors, same script, and same results. Republicans will offer some timid compromises, Obama, Reid, Pelosi and their media allies will condemn them as heartless barbarians, offer nothing in return, and delay any action until the last minute. Then the "stupid party" will surrender again, and promise that next time they will fight the battle to win.

    Our country is finished economically, and pretty much militarily and socially as well, thanks to Obama's popular but destructive policies. Republicans are incapable of fixing anything. Time for a true Conservative party which will offer real solutions, and actually fight for them!

    "Conservative" Orrin Hatch's invisible participation in this battle is especially disgusting.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Oct. 16, 2013 7:22 p.m.

    If the Republicans want to get rid of Obamacare and stop deficit spending, then they have to have a good strategy for getting the changes. The Republican strategy was a looser to begin with and it hurt the Republican party and a lot of other people.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Oct. 16, 2013 7:21 p.m.

    Correction: The government was never in danger of default. The constitution requires that debts be paid first and the government takes in more than ten times the amount required for debt service each month.

    If the government had gone into default it would have been because Obama chose to ignore the constitution (again) and push the country into default.

  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 6:52 p.m.

    For once, I agree with Mike Lee - this is indeed a terrible deal. Instead of funding the government for a full year, we'll have to go through this fiasco all over again in January/February. There is no continuity, and no one in government can make long term plans.

    With just 3 or 4 months of funding known, how can the National Institutes of Health decide what research projects to fund? How will this impact scientific research at the University of Utah? You can bet that it will - and our state and nation will suffer for it. Smart scientists will start looking for positions in Germany or elsewhere where they can find stable funding, if they haven't left already. Others will have to terminate or mothball their research programs, only to waste valuable time (and money) resurrecting them at a later time, if they can. America has had a good run in science, but these shenanigans will end it.

    Already, some participants in cancer research studies through the National Institutes of Health have had to travel to Canada to obtain chemotherapy. How much longer will we as a nation have to endure the idiocy of Cruz and Lee?