Senate Democrats to try passing debt ceiling increase

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  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:51 a.m.

    One vote,
    The situation is negative because harry and BO made it that way.

    You hit the nail on the head. BO says he refuses to negotiate until the government is re-opened. He NEVER negotiates unless some crisis is staring him in the face – unless there is some type of cliff.

    Obamacare does NOT provide healthcare. It is NOT a healthcare bill. It is an INSURANCE bill. Sorry the dems have confused you so on that point.

    No need to default on the debt as long as Lew abides by the constitution. But since he is a dem, and would therefore damage the country as much as possible to score political points, I’m sure he’ll apply any available funds to something other than paying the debt service.

    Slavery was once the law. Only white male landowners could vote – that was also the law. It took more than legislative processes to change. Obamacare required no funding before, so that tactic was not available – until now.

    Also, tell us why you are not holding BO accountable for his failure to enforce the employer mandate since Obamacare is the law.

  • Itsjstmeagain Merritt Island, Fl
    Oct. 9, 2013 6:35 a.m.

    Think ahead to 2015 when the full Congress is owned by the Democrats. What laws were passed by previous Congresses that the Left does not like. Will we see a Government by Retribution, that will annually bring the Country to and probably over the ledge? I hope not. There should be no first time example defunding in a Continuing Resolution like this.

    The ACA is simply the law today. The Congress made no fewer than 40 attempts to repeal it during the Legislative session (the right time) without success. Any attempt to defund or reduce funding for the ACA should be done when someone starts building a budget for FY2014 and out as requested by the President.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 6:31 a.m.

    Since we are roughly 17 trillion in debt now, what's a few trillion more. The Republicans should give the Democrats what Obama and the Senate want, and then stand back all the while saying they didn't want this increased debt. When the economy falls off the cliff, the blame will be totally with the Democrats, and Obama if he is still in office. One thing is for sure. This debt is like a road directly toward the Grand Canyon with no exits. Either we turn around, or the country will do a Thelma and Louise.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 5:51 a.m.

    Other newspapers are reporting that increasing numbers of GOP congressional leaders say that default will not be catastrophic... Go ahead, America, go into default, they say. Imagine what will happen to Wall Street and Main Street!

    So here's the GOP logic:

    Nation defaults on its financial obligations: Okay.
    Obamacare providing healthcare to those who need it: Catastrophic.

    What has happened to the GOP? They used to be the party of business. Now, they're are so ideological in their hatred of all things "Obama" that they're taking the nation to financial ruin... It is like, "let's kill the patient so the operation will be a success!"

    We need the GOP to return to its pro-business orientation -- creating certainty and a favorable business climate for job creation and prosperity for all Americans. By allowing the nation to default on its financial obligations, it is creating significant UNCERTAINTY in the marketplace, and it will create unemployment and lost business opportunity. Sad.

  • 4word thinker Murray, UT
    Oct. 8, 2013 8:51 p.m.

    Why is the debt clock still rocketing up when the government is shut down?

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Oct. 8, 2013 3:49 p.m.

    All Barry Obama has to do is drop the unaffordable care act, and bingo the government can re-open. It isn't a viable long or short term plan, it doesn't help most middle class americans, and it isn't affordable. Drop it Obama.

  • ChristoperB Salt Lake, UT
    Oct. 8, 2013 3:22 p.m.

    Stop spending money we don't have barack.

    You've increased our national debt at never before seen amounts.

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    Oct. 8, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans
    deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit."

    -Sen Barack Obama March 16. 2006

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    Oct. 8, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    The democrats promising to negotiate after the debt ceiling has been raised and the government has been funded is like Lucy promising to hold the football for Charlie Brown. As soon as republicans go for it, they will pull all that has been promised away.

    I am not falling for it. I hope republican congressmen/women won't either.

  • Jordan Lynchburg, VA
    Oct. 8, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    This seems to be destroying our nation. Go into even more debt in order to pay off some debt? In what world does that make sense?

  • AChapin Albany, Linn, OR
    Oct. 8, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    I see a slight sign of Marshall Law here. Do not surrender or quit. The price is too steep.
    Aloha / Shalom

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Oct. 8, 2013 8:28 a.m.

    What can any honest person say, or one with one iota of common sense. What can an LDS person say?

    Pay debt obligations but do not agree to borrow more. If there is a debt ceiling, reduce it as soon as possible. Social Security btw is a debt obligation; the money borrowed from it by Congress is represented as part of its debt obligations. I say that as many seek to reneige on those bills of indebtedness.

    We need to trim down bureaucracies and eliminate many, some regarded by the administration as unnecessary. There needs to be a constant pressure by Congress to live within our means. We need to stop policing the world and entering wars except for the immediate defence of the nation "from all enemies foreign and domestic".

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2013 7:05 a.m.

    This is a positive move to turn around the negative situation created by conservative tea party.