Frank Pignanelli & LaVarr Webb: Will the new grading system help or hurt Utah schools?

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  • hnoel Layton, UT
    Sept. 30, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    Mr. Webb.....Are you in the same boat as many of our legislators? Can't you recognize the difference between a criminal investigation and one concerned with the ethical behavior of our public servants?

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Sept. 29, 2013 11:24 p.m.

    Note other story or stories right here with the D-News about how creativity is lacking in our country and schools. Note other story about how proponents of the NCLB Act now realized they made a mistake. High-stake testing does not work, it does not improve our schools. Judging a school by a small battery of tests is also insipid. Using this to further starve public education is this state is inexcusable.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Sept. 29, 2013 7:52 p.m.

    Everybody knew that the west side schools would get low grades and the east side schools would get high grades. These "grades" are just another poke in the eye to the hard-working teachers on the west side. Anybody who thinks the legislature will actually do something for these schools is up in the night.

  • Utah Dem Ogden, UT
    Sept. 29, 2013 5:03 p.m.

    Webb did you seriously write - "Lawmakers want to work with educators to make the system better."? Then why didn't they work with a educators when creating this bill?

  • RWSmith6 Providence, UT
    Sept. 29, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    The grading of schools is yet another attempt by the legislature to improve K-12 by intimidation rather than what has for years been needed in Utah--long-term planning for the geometric population growth we're into and the development of a dedicated, reliable stream of revenue to fund adequately beyond just for growth. By ALL national and international measures, teachers in Utah are overburdened, undersupported, and undercompensated as professionals. Of late in the bargain, they're micromanaged to the point of discouragement or to leaving for greener pastures. The grading of schools is only the latest installment in a long-running story.

    The goal of public education should be engaged students and parents, the recruitment and retention of the very best teachers, and without exception classroom environment in which learning can thrive. Total commitment to that goal has, over many years, won countries like Finland, South Korea, Singapore, Canada and Japan top international results in public education. It can in Utah, too.

    If you need an experienced speaker on the subject, I'm in the phone book.

  • Really??? Kearns, UT
    Sept. 29, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    Good teachers know how to use assessments and determine their validity. We need to all be like the good teachers and see what is good about this grading system and keep that while replacing what doesn't work with better grading criteria.

  • squirt Taylorsville, ut
    Sept. 29, 2013 6:29 a.m.

    The school grading law simplifies a complex issue. There are currently six different accountability reports for public schools including School Improvement Plans, UCAS, and now school grading.
    The truth is that this is a failed system. It is designed to paint our public schools in a negative light. What follows the grading schools is a "parent trigger" law which permits schools with a D or an F to flip to a charter school. The "parent trigger" is on the Master Study Resolution" for interim.
    Proponents of the grading schools state that parent trigger was not their intent. Well, it certainly was someone's intent in the legislative body. This is grading by zip code. Instead we should be putting resources into wrap-around services for high-need schools.
    Lastly, charter schools on the whole do NOT do better than our traditional public schools. Why then would tax payers sit by and allow for our education dollars to be funneled into charter schools which are not outperforming our neighborhood schools?
    Do not be fooled by those who say this is about transparency-it is an anti-public education agenda.