Nairobi attack puts spotlight on mall safety

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  • Hamath Omaha, NE
    Sept. 29, 2013 6:00 a.m.

    @ Maudine.

    Thanks! Much better to hear real backed up data in support of your argument.

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    @ Hamath: Chris B's comment was on profiling Americans who might carry out a mall attack in America - it was not about the attackers in Nairobi nor was it about gang shootings.

    Since Nairobi is in Kenya, it would make sense that those involved were not white individuals of European descent. And gangs and drive-by shootings do not take place in malls and are a different type of profile from events such as the Colorado movie theater shooting, the Newtown shooting, the guy in Oklahoma who shot his mom and three other members of his family, and the recently averted mall shooting in Salt Lake City.

    According to an article in Mother Jones, from 1982 through 2012, there were at least 62 mass shootings (based on FBI crime classification) in the US. Forty-four (44) of the perpetrators were white males - the average age was 35, although one was 11 and some were older - and the majority of the guns were obtained legally. All the information in the Mother Jones article is source documented if you want to duplicate the research.

    If we are going to profile mass shooters, Chris B. better be prepared to be profiled.

  • Hamath Omaha, NE
    Sept. 26, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    @ Maudine

    Let's see... all of those who carried out this attack including the American's involved weren't white guys in the mid 20s to mid 40s.
    Navy Yard guy wasn't.
    If you include all the drive by shooters in Chicago they mostly aren't. That is mass shooting too, just with a get away plan.

    I'm not against your sentiment, which I believe is that we shouldn't profile. I'm not for it either. I don't know what to think about profiling. I haven't thought through it enough, which is why I'm reading about it.

    But the argument is too flimsy to let stand as is. We've got to use facts, not potential facts. If you can document with some source who has counted that all of them are that way, then fine. Otherwise, your argument fails to move anyone as it is transparently suspect.

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 7:33 a.m.

    @ Chris B: In the US, a profile of mass shooters would be white guys in their mid-20's to mid-40's. How about it? You up to being strip searched every time you go out in public?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 3:54 p.m.

    Well we could use facts to profile who is most likely to carry out such an attack. That would be a good place to start. It's becoming quite clear that what the liberals wants us to believe, is not so.