On foreign policy, a very inconsistent president

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  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Sept. 23, 2013 3:39 p.m.


    You might want to rethink your attacks on Obama's military spending as long as you work for the industrial-military complex that you pretend to hate. If you're serious with you posts, under all your various names, you would either quit your job or stop attacking the hand that feeds you.

  • redshirt007 tranquility base, 00
    Sept. 22, 2013 8:31 p.m.

    It only proves he's not a one trick pony looking to inflate defense contractor's profits.

    Republicans don't like to talk about Bush for very good reasons. Clean up your own house.

  • radically_independent Orem, Utah
    Sept. 22, 2013 8:24 p.m.

    "Later that year, when Syrians revolted, Obama gave the rebels more rhetorical support and declared that Bashar Assad had to go. "

    The amazing thing is as shocking to some as it is, the US is not the only vote on who gets to lead which country. We don't get to dictate to the rest of the world how things should be. We don't always get our way. We may want a certain outcome, but that doesn't mean we'll get it - regardless of who is president.

    If getting our way, and being consistent in foreign policy was not as hard as it is, we would not have Castro still leading a nation that we feel we need to put an iron wall around, all the while, China is now our most favored trading partner. You tell me which of these two countries is a more credible threat to the US. But per US foreign policy, Cuba needs to be isolated, China embraced.

    None of it makes any sense. This is just an extension of the century of dysfunctional foreign policy.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    I would rather be inconstant and out of foreign wars,
    than consistently starting and being in them.

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 2:27 p.m.

    Sorry, Irony Guy, but model of restraint? Please! President Obama has shown virtually NO restraint when it comes to droning wedding parties and other family gatherings. Granted he looks restrained compared to GWB, but that's not saying much. Obama pulled back from attacking Assad only after he saw what happened to the British prime minister and then read polling data. He had his finger on the trigger when all the negative repercussions persuaded him to hold his fire. And don't be surprised when you find out how interventionist he has been behind the scenes. Obama has been a lot of things, but restrained is not one of them.

  • Millsap fan Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 11:36 a.m.



    Unemployement, Food Stamps, etc: A record number of people are using these benefits on his watch. Everyone knows someone who is on these benefits because they can be not because they need it. Obama enables them.

    Immigration: In a speech to the Latinos he promised to reform immigration. All he did was take shortcuts that will not help them in the long run. It has not been something he has truly focused on passing.

    Ownership vs Blame: He constantly blames Bush, Republicans, and others for his lack of success. The truth: He Promised he'd cut the debt in half, instead he doubled it.

    I can go on and on and on.

    I'm not ignorant enough to say he's a bad person, or not a US citizen or any of the other crazy things Tea Party says, but he is a terrible president.

  • Millsap fan Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 11:35 a.m.


    I'm actually not part of the tea party and don't believe in many of their ideals. I believe balance is important in politics, but let's go through what Obama has really done.

    Foreign policy: He made us look weak via the "Apology Tour" and yes that's what it was. He hid what happened in Benghazi and said he watched it happen on the news like the rest of America. So either he lied, or he's very uninformed, either way it's pathetic. Syria is a joke and even his most faithful supporters like Chris Matthews say he's handling it horribly.

    Reaching across the aisles: Please give me a single example of this.

    ObamaCare: Big companies like Walgreens are cutting health benefits for employees. Hmm... Other companies like forever 21 and In And Out Burger are forced to have no full time employees. Smaller companies are scared to hire new employees. Meanwhile big companies get exemptions and exceptions.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Sept. 22, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    I agree with the premise.

    However, I have very little doubt that had Romney won the election, we would currently be at war in Syria

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    What has been consistent is a reticence to intervene militarily and seek peaceful solutions, at the expense of satisfying a need of some to feel tough. For this I am grateful. I know of nothing done by the Administration which made things worse over the long run, like overthrowing a democratic government in Iran, invading Iraq, or otherwise throwing our weight around. Frankly, I think this Administration has done quite well.

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 10:06 a.m.


    And Obama's done all of those. You are just to blinded by tea party propaganda to see it;

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    The article mentions "What is the common thread"?

    Iraq, Iran, Syria, and others all were foes of which government?

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Sept. 22, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    Au contraire, Obama has been very consistent. He is a model of restraint, keeping intervention as a last resort while using American power as a tool for getting results. Syria is an example-- the mere threat of a strike brought an end to chem weapons there. He is so unlike Bush, who laid about with shock and awe like a brainless giant.

  • Millsap fan Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    What I want out of the next President:

    Someone who doesn't embarrass America on National security issues. Someone committed to reaching across the aisles to help the nation. Someone who will find a way to reform the trainwreck known as ObamaCare. He/she needs to promote small business growth and stop enabling the poor by giving away welfare programs forever. They need to fix the broken immigration system rewarding the hard working, law abiding, good human beings an easier path to citizenship. We need someone who will take ownership and not pass blame.

    I don't know who it will be, but I can't wait for this President's retirement party!

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    Elections have consequences.

    We elected a community organizer who promised low information voters "free stuff" and he picked Chicago political pals and hard leftists as his top advisors, not people with serious policy experience. Joe Biden's qualification seems to be that he makes the President look like a genius.

    Our State Department was headed by Hillary who did a mediocre job, but was not free to be a policy maker, so her actions reflect Obama's decisions. Now, John ("served in Vietnam and negotiated with the enemy") Kerry has the job and it is back to amateur hour.

    The world is a big, dangerous place, with myriad complications and nuances and possible consequences both intended and unintended, dealing with shrewd and sometimes irrational people. We cannot afford to have amateurs defending our interests. But, we do.

    Heaven, please help us get through the remainder of Obama's term.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 6:45 a.m.

    The end game is to get Syria's chemical weapons. I think all the talk of military strikes was purposely to get Russia and Syria onboard to (1) ADMIT Syria had chemical weapons and (2) get Syria to give them up. Perhaps it looks messy on a day-to-day basis, especially with an apathetic public (more interested in Miley's twerking than world events) and an anti-Obama GOP (who under other circumstances would love to go to war). But history will look at how it all ended -- Syria giving up its weapons in the face of American threats and Russia doing America's bidding diplomacy.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Sept. 22, 2013 6:12 a.m.

    "Rhetorical support"? The premise of this article that Obama gives rhetorical support to various foreign policy issues and then he does nothing substantial to help?

    So his (and the Democratic party's) domestic policy style has leaked into his foreign policy and now people are taking notice.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 12:48 a.m.

    President Obama may be inconsistent on foreign policy, but that's a big improvement over Bush Jr. who was quite consistently wrong. Different story with Bush Sr., who was one of our best foreign policy Presidents.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 22, 2013 12:24 a.m.

    Lesson one - if diplomacy doesn't work the first time, keep on trying!. America's very expensive military interference in the Middle East hasn't achieved success. The more we meddle in the Middle East, the worse things get. The President has been wise to not get us further entangled militarily in that part of the world. He's done as good or better than Bush did, so give him some credit.