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  • LDS Libertarian Farmington, UT
    Sept. 15, 2013 6:46 p.m.

    I was against Vietnam then,
    I was against Iraq then,
    I'm against Syria now.

    How's THAT for Liberal integrity.

    BTW - I challenge ANY conservative to show the same.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Sept. 14, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    Evidently pointing out where Mr. Richards has forgotten some significant historical events is not allowed on the DN because refuting information is not allowed. So lets try it this wet.

    You are correct Mr. Richards. The air and cruise missile strikes that happened in 1999 had nothing to do with the ending of that civil war. It did not end genocide. It did not end a civil war. You are absolutely correct.

    And you are equally correct a Republican president would resort to reprisal hits to stop someone. For example in April of 88, Reagan didn't strike Libya in reprisal for the Berlin disco bombing. Never happened.... because a conservative would never do something so lame.

    And for example, Between 1AM and 2AM local time on June 26/June 27, 1993, 23 Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched by U.S. warships into downtown Baghdad in response to Iraq's plot to assassinate former President George H. W. Bush.

    Your right Mike.... this is a lame idea. Kerry really doesn't have a clue. Just like Clinton, Bush Sr. or Ronald Reagan..... no clue what so ever. I was wrong to say a conservative would use these same tactics. Sorry DN.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 14, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    Don't tell me, let me guess --
    You voted for Mitt Romney?!

    So much for integrity.

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Sept. 14, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    Who is the real John Kerry?

    Maybe he's a guy who served on the ground in Vietnam, who received a number of medals and ribbons for serving well, and later became an opponent of the war, after witnessing the disgraceful behavior of some of our soldiers and after coming to the correct conclusion that the war was unjustifiable. I respect both his service and his honest change of heart about the war.

    As far as the Syria situation, it's beginning to look like the Syrian dictator may be pressured to get rid of his chemical weapons without a shot being fired. If that happens, I say congratulations to Kerry and Obama.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Sept. 14, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    Couldn't the exact same be said about Mitt Romney?

    Who or what is he?

    Is he the liberal of the late 90s and early 2000s? The same who passed a "Socialist" takeover of his state's health care system? Is he the moderate of the 08 election where he lost for not being "conservative enough" for the GOP? Is he the tea party conservative of 2012?

    In fact, we could even extend this to cover the entire GOP. Who and what are they? Often, we see them flip flopping and attacking positions that were held by their own just a few years ago. I don't recall any repub asking for patience when it came to Iraq. No one dared to question the President's motives or the evidence back then. Why?

    I don't recall any repub stepping out of step with Romney when he voiced his desire to treat China as a currency manipulator, intervene in Syria, and invade Iran.

    We need only ask ourselves this question, if Romney were President, would all of these GOP hawks turned doves still be against the war in Syria?

    What is the GOP? A bunch of hypocrites and flip floppers?

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Sept. 14, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    Kerry is not a leader. A leader does the right thing regardless of personal costs. Kerry is a follower. He looks at what is best for him. How can he, a decorated soldier, tell us that using multimillion dollar missiles to put holes in a few runways (holes that can be repaired in a matter of hours) is the right thing to do? How can he tell us that dropping bombs where the collateral damage will likely exceed any deaths to soldiers is the right thing to do? How can he tell us that sitting safely in Washington while he rains death and destruction on a people who are fighting for their lives in a civil war is the right thing to do?

    He, like Obama, will say anything that comes to mind if he thinks that saying those things will advance his career. Thank goodness the military despises this administration and all that they stand for.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Sept. 14, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    Clark... if you don't know the difference between what is going on in Syria - and the history there, and the War that Kerry actually fought in Vietnam..... well then either you are just way to young to understand the difference, or simply just choose not to so that you can make a political point.

    Kerry actually took up arms, fought in Vietnam, and latter saw his own son go server in the middle east - that is his personal point of reference.

    What is yours?

    I am not a Keey fan....seems to be a bit of a goober to me.... but he backs his words with action and sacrifice. Political talk minus actual action is meaningless.

  • Hamath Omaha, NE
    Sept. 14, 2013 6:24 a.m.

    Simple answer. He is the politician.
    Wasn't that already known?