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  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    @lost in DC - "We crave sex and violence, but then wonder why some messed up guy shoots a room full of elementary school kids or some other deranged soul shoots up a movie theater."

    You've just referred to 2 incidents in which people with mental/psychological issues acted out violently. While media may have had some influence, these were both people who've had incidents in their past that suggest other factors were driving their behavior (especially in the case of Sandy Hook.) Neither of these incidents support your argument...

    I agree with your assertion that we as a society have become desensitized and allow far more "amoral" material in our entertainment than we used to. But, I also believe that, for the majority of people, there is still a clear difference in how we react to fictionalized violence and real-life violence. I also agree that it's society that has to change, and it must be done willfully; not at the behest of some government mandate.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 2:53 p.m.

    Oops, my comment was directed to "lost in DC".

  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    to Wonder

    I wasn't trashing Liberals (get it?); I was aiming for **Turnabout is fairplay**

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    @Pendergast -- I'm fairly "liberal" and I can assure you that I wouldn't be out there dancing like Miley. That's not liberal, that's trashy.

  • redshirt007 tranquility base, 00
    Sept. 4, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    Miley who?

  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 10:02 a.m.

    re: lost in DC

    "Miley, and those like her, are the product of a liberal mindset where anything goes and there are no personal morals nor responsibilities."

    Sounds exactly like Conservatives and Wall St/Global corporations.

  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    Didn't see the actual event. Saw a news clip.

    Its obvious this was more staged than a WWE event by people who just needs publicity or do I mean attention? This differs little from Madonna & Britney kissing at the VMA's Janet Jackson & her wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl.

    Ignore people like L Lohan, The Kardashians, Miley, etc... & they will go away. Case in point; Paris Hilton & Octomom are just overused items in the garbage bin that is pop culture.

    p.s. MTV stopped being cool when they canned Beavis & Butthead and Headbangers ball

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 2:55 a.m.

    @Mike in Sandy

    Should LDS General Conference be taken off the air so that you don't accidentally find yourself watching it?

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 2:53 a.m.

    Progressive Liberal: I hate right wing talk radio and that awful Fox News. They should be taken off the air.

    Conservative: Okay, then let me give you the same advice you give me whenever I complain about all the violent, overtly sexual, and vulgar TV shows and movies that are out there. If you don't like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Micheal Savage or Fox News, here's an idea. Don't watch or listen to them. Problem solved.

    Progressive Liberal: But that's different. Entertainment is not the same as covering current events. Right wing talk radio and Fox News and hostile, biased news sources, so they should be gone.

    Conservative: I could say the same thing about MSNBC, NPR and Current TV, but since they would argue freedom of speech and freedom of the press, I could not take them off.

    Progressive Liberal: That's right. In this country, everyone has the right to free speech.

    Conservative: Except Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage and Fox News?

    Progressive Liberal: I said free speech should be protected, not hate speech.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    I’d stop watching if I had ever started. But then, it’s MTV; what do you expect but smut?

    We have become no better than the Romans who filled the Circus Maximus to watch gladiators kill each other, slaves be ripped to shreds by wild animals, and any other type of violent debauchery they could come up with. People rave about violent cable programs set in Rome or some mythical region with a number of thrones. We crave sex and violence, but then wonder why some messed up guy shoots a room full of elementary school kids or some other deranged soul shoots up a movie theater. We are, in many ways, no better than the “entertainment” we gorge ourselves on. The fact that government does nothing to control it as LDS?lib infers is not the issue; the fact that we crave it is totally disheartening. Government is no better, and no worse, than we are as a collective. Heaven help us.

    Miley, and those like her, are the product of a liberal mindset where anything goes and there are no personal morals nor responsibilities.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 12:28 p.m.

    Who said anything about "Government"? Who demanded government be involved???

    The only thing I've seen proposed here is "don't watch it". Which involves you making your own decision (nothing about Government doing it for you).

    The only person who brought up Government was "LDS Liberal"... and he's a Big Government fan like you! Don't blame HIS comments on people who think you should make your own choice.


    Mike in Sandy,
    Nobody's forcing you to watch MTV or General Conference (or not watch them). I hope we keep it that way (and keep Big Government out of it).


    Not everything in life is a government problem. This is one of them.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    You don't watch that stuff, and I won't watch General Conference

  • FreedomFighter41 Provo, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    I thought repubs hated big government?

    Yet... When it comes to what happens in the bedroom or living room, they demand that nanny government be involved. Why? Let people decide what they want to watch. If you don't like Miley Cyrus, then take accountability and change the channel. Remote Controls are awesome inventions.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    Hint... The people who watch MTV LIKE performances like Milley's sex laced dance. So what motivation does MTV have to prevent performances like that? It appeals to their target demographic.

    I think they go out of their way to INSURE that there is at least one controversial act like this at the show. Think about it... EVERY YEAR there is one act that get's a ton of publicity for the show for months for doing something like this. I think it's planned, and intended, to please their audience.

    A bunch of old folks and religious people complaining about the MTV Music Awards is NOT going to motivate MTV to change.

    Face it... MTV's target audience is kids (not adults). They aren't going to change their programming to appeal to adults. Until KIDS stop watching (and advertisers notice)... they are not going to change their formula. And we know that's not going to happen.

    So... IF you don't want YOUR kids watching the type of programming MTV provides all day every-day... you can block MTV from the Cable Menu.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 3, 2013 9:02 a.m.

    We must still be thinking of Miley as Hannah Montana when her MTV performance causes some to react as though they are her father or mother. Kids grow up and make their own decisions as adults.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Sept. 3, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    LDS Liberal. 'Socialist societies rely on the government keep Capitalists in check and stop them from selling drugs, sex, slaves and anything else they can make money on'? I am so happy to know that drugs, sex and slavery are not sold in K, Korea, Cuba, Somalia or any European country, or for that matter in Socialist California or Socialist Massachusetts or even Socialist Detroit! What a relief it is to know that!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 8:08 a.m.

    Does anybody watch it anymore? Or do they just become aware of it when someone causes a tizzy?

  • MaxPower Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    Didn't see the show, this is the first I have commented about it. Really don't care, haven't watched MTV since I was a teen many, many years ago. Have not, and will not lose any sleep over this.

    However, from her point of view, she won. People are still talking about it, how many consecutive days has the DNews run a story about this? How many have since gone to YouTube because of the non stop press coverage over a 3 minute performance?

    This is ancient news in today's news cycle.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 6:59 a.m.

    I didn't see the show and wouldn't have known of it except for all the hoopla generated.

  • Curmudgeon Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 6:26 a.m.

    Agreed. As Alexander Pope said so famously over 200 years ago:

    "Vice is a monster of so frightful mien,
    As to be hated needs but be seen,
    Yet seen too often, familiar with her face,
    We first endure, then pity, then embrace."

    Interesting that Pope gave vice a female face.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 2:07 a.m.

    Miley who?

    but yes, In a capitalist society you vote with your pocket book.
    In a Socialist society you rely on Government to regulate, ban, and keep Capitalists in check by keeping them from selling: sex, drugs, human slaves or anything else they can make money on.

    Miley -and others like her - are products of Capitalism.