Mike Sorensen: What we learned from college football's opening weekend

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  • Thefullnancy SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    Mr Sorensen, the offense was a joke. The hurry up looked just like that. A bunch of guys trying to hurry real fast to do something kinda like the keystone cops. And don't give the arrogant Bronco another pass for doing something stupid to lose a game. He made the dumb decision to go for two last year at Boise. He made the even dumber decision to pass on third and six from his own 34 with less than 3 minutes to go. Hill was 13 for 39 at that point and the defense was well rested and had been effective all day. Don't tell us it was Anae we all know Bronco made the final decision. Hindsight my rear end. If BYU doesn't get the first down on a rushing play the chances of the defense holding are over 90%.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Sept. 3, 2013 2:05 p.m.

    Something else that was learned was that USU got called on some pretty dumb penalties...a couple self-inflicted, the others were a joke. Neither BYU or the U had any devistating personal fouls...which is nice.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 3, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    I really don't think we learned much of anything. Let's get 3-4 games into this season, then re-evaluate/revisit the topic. I do believe Utah's win was a good win. That Utah State will go 8-4 or 9-3 and that BYU let a very win-able game get away though.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 3, 2013 12:25 p.m.

    Wow - no love for Chucky and the USU hurry up offense. I thought they were very effective in the hurry up. Chucky is by far the best player in the state.

    What does it matter that byU got the third most plays in the nation if they didn't execute those plays?

    Utah offense struggling? I guess if a QB rating of 174.9, over 150 yards rushing, a perfect kicking game and a win is "struggling", then I hope we struggle every week.

    Go Utes!!

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    Even when BYU loses it wins??

    It sure seems like BYU always comes out shining even when it lost. BYU gets more press, 3x as many reader comments and nearly half the attention.

    DNews, BYU lost a chance at several probable opportunities by losing to Virginia. They cannot go undefeated. They cannot make a National Title game (unless divine interventions cost the best teams multiple losses). The opportunity to make a BCS bowl is likely gone with BYU having to win ALL remaining games, be ranked in the top 15 AND be ahead in the standings over one of the six champions. It won't happen because Northern Illinois slipped past its toughest opponent on the schedule.

    BYU still has plenty of opportunities ahead. The most important right now is recovering and beating a ranked Texas team.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 7:24 p.m.

    So nice to read the comments of mostly reasonable Utah and BYU fans, without the hyperbole of the extremests. Those sources of blustery (and wildly inaccurate) predictions are keeping their heads down in shame--at least long enough for the rest of us to enjoy a bit of fresh air.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 5:42 p.m.

    We learned the answer to the 16 year "will they won't they" dance between the BCS and BYU...


  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 2, 2013 4:41 p.m.

    Since when does 30 points/450 yards of total O constitute, "struggling"? Was The U perfect on O? Absolutely not, but usu's D is hardly a slouch. On the other hand, byu's O was utterly inept. No comparison, whatsoever!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 2, 2013 4:37 p.m.

    Nice to see byu fans calling it like it is for once.

    If they perform like they did against UVA, I assure you they'll get absolutely worked at home by both UT/The U!

  • Smart Aleck Vancouver, WA
    Sept. 2, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    If you follow Nate Meikle's theory on 'Regression to the Mean' then BYU's offensive lack of offensive performance Saturday was the outlier, and the next sampling against Texas will lie much closer to the mean, or historic, level of output. So look for an increase in passing accuracy and total offense, and a decrease in turnovers and penalties this Saturday.

    As for Johnny Manziel, there's a difference between being cocky and being foolish. He's got the talent, but he needs to make better decisions. Insubordination toward your coach will absolutely drop your NFL draft stock.

    If you're tired of the media frenzy around John Football, then you'll need to stay away from the internet and keep the TV off.

    Sept. 2, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    jarka-rus, USU returned most of its starters from a top 20 defense last year. Or wait... does the quality of team one plays actually impact a team's results/stats now?

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 2, 2013 3:47 p.m.

    Umm yeah but USU's defense is pathetic

    Sept. 2, 2013 3:21 p.m.

    Mike, add to the Pac-12 vs. MWC list Colorado's 14 point win over CSU.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Sept. 2, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    Here are the three things we learned about in-state football this past weekend:

    1. Utah is average and has a lot of work to do. But their problems are solvable because they have the athletes/talent, just not the experience.
    2. USU is average and has a lot of work to do. But their problems are NOT solvable because they don't have the athletes/talent (Chuckie being the exception). Luckily they won't need to solve their problems to win their (terrible) conference.
    3. BYU is below average and has more than a lot of work to do. Their problems are NOT solvable because they are all related to coaching and BYU is determined to ride this coaching staff into the ground.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Sept. 2, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    The article and fans responses are comparing apples to oranges! Utah played at home with perfect football weather, lets see how BYU does on Saturday at home on a fast familiar track and dry footballs to work with and Cody Hoffman in the line up!!!

    Go Cougs!!!

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    I thought decisionmaking by Utah's offensive coaches was better than last year.

    BYU's offensive decisionmaking and execution was as bad as last year. Maybe the execution will be better with Hoffman back. If not, it could be a long season.

    BYU's defense was outstanding. Van Noy proved he can have a big impact without posting great stats.

    Utah State is a very good team, but they need to avoid mental mistakes. Speaking of mental mistakes, I hope the coaches didn't wait until AFTER the game started to begin hydrating Chuckie Keeton.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    BYU is number 3 in the nation! Only two teams ran more plays. I wonder if those two had comments like at times it seems BYU is more interested in running plays than having a purpose behind those plays!

    We also learned if one game can cost Van Noy all-American status. First quarter only mentioned one time and that was for a missed tackle. He did hurry a pass which led to an interception and it appears had 2.5 tackles for a loss. But is that all-American play against a team picked to tie for last in their division of the Atlantic Coast Conference (or whatever the name is for the new blended conference.

    Also we learned a coaching staff can win a game (onside kick) or lose a game (play the percentages)

    The above posts included two from BYU fans critical of the watered down, glossed over press coverage of BYU. Congratulations! Can a ripple become a ground swell?

    Good Luck, cougars on Saturday's game.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    C'mon Sorensen, stop glossing it over for BYU. Their offense was pathetic, and I agree with UtesFootball above, lumping them with Utah's offense is ridiculous. Utah's offense looked just fine on Thursday, it's their defense most ute fans are worried about. And I agree with MP also...tell it like it is, not this dolled up frosting version. In a nutshell the article should have said:

    1) Utah and Utah State have improved offenses that were able to move the football and put points on the board, despite being a little inconsistent at times. BYUs offense looked lost, inept, and like a toddler trying to run faster than their legs are capable.

    2) Utah and Utah State were inconsistent, out of position, and exhibited poor tackling and defense for much of the night on Thursday, but there were glimpses of great defense especially from star defensive players on both teams. BYUs defense Saturday looked solid, fast, and tough up the middle as expected. However Virginia never really tested, or tried to go vertical against BYUs inexperienced corners, so much remains to be seen.

    That's what we all learned without the gloss.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    Johnny's cockiness is entertaining, he's good and he knows it, reminds me of a guy that played at byu...JM.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    Come on Mike. 450 yards of offense produced by Utah is not struggling. Utah ran fewer plays than BYU because Utah was in ball control at the end of the game to preserve the win. Something BYU should have done. When is the Des News staff going to come to the realization that BYU is not a good football team? So far it has been a constant stream of BYU superlatvives.

  • Hank Jr Draper, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    BYU's hurry up offense has LOST my attention.

  • TallNSkinny43 Germantown, MD
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:05 a.m.

    I would be more concerned about Utah and Utah States defenses than their offenses. 937 total yards? Utah looked lost on a lot of the drives Utah State ran and Utah State gave up way too many long passing plays.

  • Tilka PORTLAND, OR
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    autograph gate? Anybody else getting sick of the press adding "gate" to every scandal. come on it has been 40 years since watergate.

  • Utesfootball South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    "If you thought BYU and Utah struggled offensively in Week 1..."
    Not sure I understand this. Utah had 450 yards of offense. Thats almost 100 hundred more yards than Byu. I don't think you can lump the two together.
    UsU had 487.

  • milkshake St. George, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    C'mon, give SUU a little more credit than just playing a weak FBS opponent. Southern Utah did beat Eastern Washington and Montana last year which in a previous article they were listed as the FBS "Do Not Play" teams. No matter how you slice it, any and all FBS teams have 85 scholarships, 20 more than any FCS team. Congratulation's to Southern Utah, Eastern Washington, NDSU, etc, they are well coached, hard working young men who every once in a while get a chance to stick it to the big boy's!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 6:32 a.m.

    As usual, USU gets no credit...

    "The hurry-up offenses that BYU and Utah are employing this year may not look real smooth right now, but they do make the games more interesting and certainly hold your attention. You can hardly look down or else you'll miss the next play."

    That's nice but USU's offense is both fast (which Utah's isn't) AND productive (which byu's isn't).

    byu was pathetic Saturday and yet we supposedly learned this:

    "Many folks complained that BYU shouldn't have called a pass play on third down with less than three minutes left Saturday. But if the Cougars had run it up the middle and had to punt and gotten another punt blocked or if Virginia had come back to drive for the winning score, fans would have complained that the Cougars should have tried to pass to get the first down. Hindsight is always so easy."

    ...another unsupported 'what if' excuse.

    Well done, Des News. Based on the byu comment boards since Saturday's game, byu fans are tiring of the constant stream of ponies and rainbows they are fed by the local media.

  • Hamath Omaha, NE
    Sept. 2, 2013 5:21 a.m.

    After Johnny's antics, I can't imagine wanting A&M to win over Alabama. Who would have thought...but he succeeded in making me a temporary Alabama fan. Alabama 34, A&M 17.